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There has never been a better time to switch to Mint, Pop_OS, or Bazzite.
Yeah, went Mint 18 months ago. Started at MSDOS in the 1990s, ended at W10.
Well done!
I sometimes feel like bare-metalling FreeDOS. Except that and modern laptops, ha-ha, shouldn’t work too well, but at the same time Lenovo even sold some with it pre-installed.
Would just play X-Wing and TIE Fighter and WarCraft II, edit simple text documents, smile at how right it’d feel.
Get WordStar
Did you see that e-mail?
“Nope!”
I am sure the people who just lost their job will be super happy about that.
This place is constantly shilling Linux, decrying LLMs, and downvoting anything that doesn’t fit the status quo.
Don’t get me wrong I like this place on the whole, but I’ve just come to realise nobody here actually wants to engage with anybody different and just dog piles.
We are the left wing version of r/conservative.
I think the people here is not “only pro-Linux” but pro-OS-freedom. I guess most off us wouldn’t find a problem if someone changes Windows or MacOS for *BSD, Haiku or any other free OS.
About LLM, the problem is not the tool but the use the big businesses are using it for. Because the target is not having humans working there and do everything with LLM and androids so they don’t have to “spend money” on wages.
Don’t get me wrong I like this place on the whole, but I’ve just come to realise nobody here actually wants to engage with anybody different and just dog piles.
We are the left wing version of r/conservative.
So brave of you to stand up to left wing people dismantling your arguments!
…but yes people aren’t interested in your desire to “both sides” reality by dropping out necessary context until the picture looks like two sides having a friendly disagreement… because the reality is conservatives WANT to hurt us and for some reason people are mad about that here.
But not Ubuntu. We don’t like Ubuntu here, I feel like
Ubuntu is fine. I do understand the hate, though. Snap is contentious for very good reasons, Canonical makes major decisions by fiat rather than listening to the community (see Snap again), and they have corporate motives that are often at odds with the spirit and desires of the greater FOSS community (like forking upstream projects instead of contributing).
Mint is still based on Ubuntu, for example, but I feel it’s a more ethical suggestion than Ubuntu itself.
I will be looking into these, thanks for sharing! Any top recommendations from the three??
I started with pop os 5 years ago and haven’t found a reason to change. I’m not hugely techy and just wanted something to play games on. Had very few issues overall.
Sorry to sound absolutely dumb, but does it work well with things like steam?
I primarily only use Adobe (learning Affinity) and Steam. I’m a pretty basic bitch ngl lmao! Pop_OS looks CLEAN on their website
Works great with steam. I went back on my ethics and played wow classic for a while though and battle.net was a little tricky for me to get going. But yeah steam works perfectly.
It’s not on the list, but I’ve been rocking the same KDE fedora installation through about ten version upgrades. Once you dial in your settings and software choices, it’s fairly solid.
The only issue I can recall was some weirdness with steam’s dependencies blocking my last version upgrade, but it was easily bypassed.
I recommend Mint. It’s super easy to install and maintain. And very easy to use.
Pop!_OS is my top recommendation for Windows expats, followed by Mint (Cinnamon Edition), and then Bazzite (KDE Plasma desktop). Bazzite is so, so, so good, but it has some unique features that make it a little more frustrating for Windows power users who are new to Linux. But honestly they are all good. Pick one, and if you aren’t vibing with it, try something else.
Also, keep in mind that “distro” and “desktop environment (DTE)” are two different things. Sometimes a distro has a default DTE and sometimes it gives you a choice. The DTE makes the biggest difference to your experience. There are many different DTEs, but the two biggest are GNOME (MacOS-like and moderately customizable) and KDE Plasma (Windows-like by default, but very customizable).
I cannot recommend Bazzite. It’s an atomic distribution, which is pioneer tech that tries to make some things better but in effect makes a lot of things more difficult. FWIW, I’ve been using Linux for 20+ years.
Just go with regular Fedora KDE Desktop. https://fedoraproject.org/kde/
I see that Fedora uses Btrfs, so it should be able to take file system snapshots, which are sort of an alternative to the immutable thing, isn’t it?
Yes, but not really. It can be convenient. Just remember it takes more space so provision accordingly for /.
- Disable secureboot so you don’t have to run a few commands and restart in order to sign keys
- Ensure your drives are formatted to a linux format to reduce headaches with steam libraries
- if the command starts with “sudo(superuser Do)” it’s time to read up on what each part of the command does exactly.
- Linux wants you to mount and unmount your drives(filesystems) manually. Plugging them in won’t instantly allow data transfer.
- Don’t be surprised that almost any linux is a perfectly functional OS with fantastic UX and less day to day hassle and management compared to windows.
Disable secureboot so you don’t have to run a few commands and restart in order to sign keys
Stay away from HP. Secureboot will re-enable itself whenever it wants, and the kernel panic is scary if you don’t realize that’s what’s happening.
Also…
- everything is changeable. But not everything should be changed.
- There will come a time when you need to interact with the command line. This is expected, and no you did not do something wrong.
- Have fun.
Oh if your looking for a distro? Mint is a great entry point (and even can support crusty old graybeards as well).
Already on the way babayyy. Ubuntu gang here we gooooo I know, i know. There are other popular distros but I wanted to start there
Ubuntu is perfectly valid, feels very mac os
Way to go!
Ubuntu is great for begginers, go for it
Of course we need three flavor so we don’t have a single majority and each of them have their own nuisance. Same as JavaScript libraries.
openSUSE is also pretty great, and doesn’t get the attention it deserves.
There really is a Linux for everyone.
You could just say Linux, lol.
We gotta stop upvoting distro-shilling.
Try just telling someone that they need to switch to Linux with no other details. They’ll either get confused/overwhelmed by choice, or possibly choose one that isn’t user friendly and hate it.
People have to start somewhere, and I see no issue with recommending user friendly distros to get them going.
Right and people that don’t know which distros to use will get lost
How are you supposed to get new people in without advising?
I feel bad for the people that get herded by shills.
Switching OS requires proper DD anyway. What’s wrong with giving people ideas to start their journey?
Because you people don’t actually care about helping others, just shilling what you personally like.
Do you really think a good idea is letting a newcomer try Gentoo?
The shilling has ideological and logical underpinnings though…
Sure if you don’t care about privacy, security and autonomy, this shilling is whatever.
But for anyone freedom enjoyer, it will resonate. That’s target.
Do you expect fedi crowd to be shilling corporate parasite solutions?
If so, what’s your logic and ideology for that?
Are you ok?
Can you expand on that thought?
Should all new Linux users get through 10 distros and years of trial and error, before settling for one they like the most?
Imagine you want to leave MS and windows behind and are greeted by comments of your caliber. Then please provide an alternative starting point, elaborate, be helpful.
This is just passive aggressive my dude.
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Maybe when you’re older you’ll understand.
If you go through your entire life without getting it, then that’s sad.
At this point I expect the latter to occur.
Keep your secrets sensei. You get no more attention from me. Happy gatekeeping, or trolling or whatever this supposed to be.
You get no more attention from me.
Thank god.
And yet here you are on Lemmy, I assume out of your own volition and independent thought
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They are probably the best distros for newcomers. I think its an absolutely valid comment.
I find that’s very unhelpful to potential Linux converts. They will quickly find out that there are infinite flavors of Linux, become overwhelmed, and give up.
When you are introducing newcomers to Linux, it’s best to make specific suggestions.
GNU / Linux :)
Or GNU plus Linux, as I’ve recently taken to calling it
You could just say Linux, lol.
Yeah, but which one? There are hundreds of distros. There’s nothing wrong giving some pointers to begginers out there.
Cool. I mean I haven’t been able to get past a single 10-minute “I just want to go over the job with you and collect some basic information” phone interview in 6-months.
But ya know. Another 6,000 people on the market is cool too.
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How many recruiter screens are you getting? If you are getting a decent amount, your resume is likely good.
If you are failing recruiter screens, you are saying or doing something that is turning them off.
I would see if you can get feedback or have a friend “screen” you.
There are some services or organizations for mock interviews. Utilize them!
I keep hoping this will spark some sort of anti-capitalist zeitgeist. But labor might be too scattered and individualistic.
Like, why are we all scrambling for a handful of jobs when the rich have so many resources?
Because have fun doing anything about it while scrambling to survive
Oh fuck off with this ‘survive’ nonsense.
Literally every bitch I know in America complaining about “not having enough money” spends it like a goddamn idiot.
Doordash every day. Subscriptions out the wah-zoo for things they can be getting for free.
You’d better believe most of them are going to be buying a switch 2 instead of emulating.
Oh, and the thought of moving somewhere cheaper? Forget about it. It’s “not good enough” for them.
No, they get no sympathy from me. They all deserve what’s coming to them and I hope it hits hard.
It kinda sounds like you’re shaming people simply for spending their money on entertainment, food or better living conditions. That kind of take can come off like saying, “you’re poor, so you don’t deserve to enjoy anything.”
I get that there are alternatives like pirating, but that doesn’t really solve the bigger issue: we shouldn’t have to resort to that in the first place.
No, it’s not “all or nothing.” You people keep pretending that’s what I’m arguing for because you don’t want to acknowledge your own contribution to the problem. The person I was replying was trying to argue ‘survival,’ and now here you are moving the goalposts to ‘wants.’
They keep conflating needs with wants, so whoever takes their wants away is immediately a bad person.
They don’t need more money. As soon as they get more, they’re going to spend more on more dumb shit while there are still starving children on the planet.
but that doesn’t really solve the bigger issue
It does if enough people do it.
we shouldn’t have to resort to that in the first place.
Correct, but we don’t live in a perfect world.
You make some good points and I see where you’re coming from, but I think that person used the term “survive” figuratively. Even so, when you say the world is not perfect you’re kind of oversimplifying the situation by making it seem like things are the way they are because of some unfortunate event no one can control, when in reality things are designed to be harder for people with less money, and I’ll try to use your own examples to show that.
Streaming: Remember when we only had Netflix and it had a full extensive catalog, no ads and was much more affordable? Then studios started splitting content just to make more profit, and now every year we pay more to get less content. Even basic plans with ads are going up. You mentioned pirating, but that’s not exactly easy or accessible for everyone, not to mention it’s a legal gray area (which is another discussion on its own).
Delivery: Sure, no one needs to order takeout, but even cooking at home is getting expensive, especially if you want to eat healthy. If you’re trying to save money you basically have to buy stuff loaded with sugar and fat or use shit ingredients, it’s like they’re trying to slowly kill us.
Living: let’s not pretend there’s not a housing crisis going on for a while, where people with money are buying up everything just to rent it back out to other people with money. Meanwhile everyone else is getting pushed to unsafe areas with poor living conditions.
(Also, just saying, that whole “fuck you” attitude of yours doesn’t really help with anything.)
Streaming: Remember when we only had Netflix and it had a full extensive catalog, no ads and was much more affordable?
Yes, but even then I never subscribed to netflix because free streaming sites had more content for free. They still do. You really have no idea how disconnected you are from people who legitimately need more money and scrutinize everything they spend it on. It’s called privilege.
Delivery: Sure, no one needs to order takeout, but even cooking at home is getting expensive
Wait… what? You’re saying it’s getting expensive to cook at home, so the solution is to spend more money on delivery? Is this satire?
If you’re trying to save money you basically have to buy stuff loaded with sugar and fat or use shit ingredients
What the fuck? Are you seriously suggesting that it’s better to get doordash because eating at home is “too expensive and unhealthy”?
Living: let’s not pretend there’s not a housing crisis going on for a while
That’s because people have been conditioned to rent instead of own. Most of the people complaining about housing are living above their means and think they deserve more before people who have less. For example, I guarantee most of the people on these forums complains about not having enough money while spending $1,000+/month on rent in a major city.
They could live more modest lives in more rural areas, but “that’s not good enough for them.” Saying “there are no jobs” is a load of bullshit and I guarantee none of them are talking from experience.
(Also, just saying, that whole “fuck you” attitude of yours doesn’t really help with anything.)
I’m holding people accountable for their contributions to the problem. They want to consume guilt-free and get mad at anyone who calls it out.
I don’t expect them to change no matter what. It would take an act of god to beat the consumerism out of this generation.
I’ll shame someone for using door dash. No able bodied person deserves servants to both cook for them and deliver hot food to them from across town. That is an incredible privilege that should be reserved for those truly in need or as an expense luxury.
Why are you surrounded by so many shitty people?
Consumerism.
I’m also in a capitalist hellscape, and I don’t see this same issue with people I know.
Why is your subset different?
Probably because you’re being willfully ignorant to avoid acknowledging how you and your peers are part of the problem.
I know what I’ll put my money on.
It’s easier to fight with each other than it is to fight our puppet-masters.
“But that’s communism!”
- The USA, probably
I mean, what would that even look like? New “software communes” getting founded? I don’t necessarily disagree with you, but I’m curious what that would actually look like on the ground.
At the very least form unions. That will help with stuff like wage theft, some people getting underpaid, BS firings, etc.
More aggressively, maybe some sort of collective ownership. Not this “options” bullshit where they never even vest for most people. The whole thing where management pays you $100 and sells what you made for $3000 needs to go. That $3000 needs to be more fairly shared among the people that made it happen.
But I don’t really know. I’m just some guy with entry level knowledge and a sense that the current system is wrong.
I lost my job in April 2024 and I finally got my new job at the end of January. Keep your chin up. Look for people you know who could give referrals. That’s how I ended up getting hired. Good luck!
I do try.
Every single former co-worker has ghosted me at this point and even my friends have basically taken a “Hahaha, for sure mate, for sure, hey have you guys ever changed the conversation?” attitude when I bring up connecting me with people.
People suck lol.
They know what’s coming and That’s going to make America grate again.
Absolutely no sympathy from me.
They like the abuse and attack anyone who doesn’t.
Are you generalising 6000 people here or MS?
Anyone who works for microsoft deserves much worse than getting laid off.
Why are you dunking on labour!?
JFC
Not very solidarity of you tbh
They dunked on themselves when they applied to work for one of the scummiest corporations in history.
Yeah, no. Working for the enemy doesn’t get a free pass because of ‘labor.’
The billionaires need labor to not organize against them. If labor organized, they’d be screwed. Luckily for them you exist. The billionaires are safe as long as they can keep you doing what you’re doing now, which is try to divide labor into groups of “us” vs “them”. Anything that generates friction and hinders organizing is a win for them. I invite you to help work towards a solution, there is always room for more help. There are apparently 6,000 more people who are going to be motivated and have a bit of extra time on their hands. Maybe they can help too.
Attacking the labour I see and not the system they have to get by in.
Like i kind of get it, I’m a software developer and would never work for a gambling company, but I ain’t out here shitting in those who do.
Attacking the labour I see and not the system they have to get by in.
Yeah. Working for microsoft was the only option. Greed and consumerism had nothing to do with it. They had no choice and it wasn’t about making the most amount of money to live the most luxurious lifestyle while children starve.
but I ain’t out here shitting in those who do.
We’re different people.
Clearly. As I’m not insufferable, whereas you’ve got that on lock.
Right. You’re just trying to look good in front of your peers.
I have no interest in looking good my friend. I’m just as flawed as the rest of us.
I hope they lay off the world of warcraft class balancing team those fuckers have no idea what they are doing
Did they ever ?
Not really lol. Great time for m$ to get some new blood in there
Probably working on windows 13 on a direct Elon special implant with autodoxing and auto migrant deport reporting of brown people.
One objective is to reduce layers of management, the spokesperson said. In January Amazon announced that it was getting rid of some employees after noticing “unnecessary layers” in its organization.
Sucks for those that lost their jobs, but this sounds promising. Layer after layer of management slows everything down. It turns a 1 glue task into a 3 month crawl of endless meetings and back and forth and waiting.
The problem with companies like Microsoft is that they’ve become completely pointless. They don’t innovate anymore. They don’t make anything useful. If you make Microsoft more efficient, they’ll just suck ass more efficiently.
They have a shitton of other products, services, and tech though?
Just because it’s not marketed at you doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
I interact with the development ecosystem that Microsoft largely controls. They’re constantly doing new stuff there.
Shit megacorps? Yeah. No innovation? No.
The problem is that they’re too fucking big. Office used to be the shining star of Microsoft, but now, it’s a total piece of shit. My company recently switched from Google to Microsoft, and holy shit, it’s a downgrade.
Outlook is the biggest pile of shit software I’ve encountered in years. It’s eventually consistent but without user feedback, it’s very slow, meeting rooms aren’t consistent about meeting room responses, email filtering rules don’t work reliably… I could go on.
Word sucks, too. Google Docs is way easier to use. In Word, copy and paste doesn’t work as you’d expect, even from Word doc to Word doc, there’s no templating in OneDrive, there aren’t shared folders unless you set up a whole SharePoint site… I could go on here, too.
It’s this stupid, stupid focus on AI tools. AI ain’t making shit better! AI shouldn’t replace humans or things humans work on: it should augment humans. Products still need development on UX. AI should be incorporated into UX without being shoved down our throats. But these dumbass investors who don’t understand tech are jumping on the fucking bandwagon, and execs are towing the line.
Sorry for the rant, but Microsoft is more than just development tools.
Also, they need to get ads out of my fucking operating system. I don’t want my operating system natively communicating with the internet and recommending news stories. Fucking cancer
Sorry but this is completely untrue. Microsoft are still a very innovative company.
Weird, it’s been at least a decade since I encountered a Microsoft product that wasn’t actively getting worse.
You must not use many. The many Microsoft programs I use every day have only gotten better over time - windows, SQL management studio, visual studio, visual studio code, windows terminal, WSL, Azure storage explorer, To Do, Office, and even the much maligned Teams has improved significantly.
Microsoft Office is a paradigmatic example of enshittification. But you do you.
How so? I’ve used multiple office products every day at work for the last 20 years and have only noticed them getting better and better. If I could have any version of any of them to use right now it would be the current ones.
Microsoft Word literally removed the ability to autosave. Your document is no longer automatically saved as you type, unless you pay for cloud backup. This would be hilarious if it weren’t so unbelievably dumb.
The Microsoft is dead. Long live the Linux!
Window*
you underestimating how well a mega corpo parasite can survive imho
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I mean if I laid off %25 of my dev team we would see a boat in productivity. They leech time from one of my senior devs and don’t get any better. Def getting rid of 2/4 useless guys and giving 1 of them as much of an opportunity I’ve given any body and one is going to be next to go of he doesn’t shape up.
They didn’t do that. They went “Eenie meenie meiney moe” in the general direction of various PMs.
Attitude like that You sound like you would be a horrible manager. No wonder they don’t have the motivation or support to perform better
Real life doesn’t work like that
They are literally useless. even when something is explained to them they still mess it up, or need the same thing explained again the next time. Most of the commits they have was someone wasting their time to explain change by change how to do it. It would have been worth the time investment if they learned and were able to do things on their own. at this point but they aren’t and freeing up the people who have to consistently spend their time helping them will be a net positive in productivity.
And the good ones run away as fast as they can. Good luck with it!
How is gaming on linux? I really don’t want to “upgrade” to windows 11 but I also barely have any time to game in the first place let alone fool around with settings and drivers for several hours every time I install a new game or update and existing one.
The only teal obstacle is some anti cheat software, mostly kernel level anti cheat.
So if you want to play shooters like fortnite, pubg, valorant or rainbow six siege, you are out of luck.
Otherwise, you probably won’t have any issues.
Thanks to Valve, Linux compatibility has become industry standard.
Lutris and steam do most of the heavy lifting for you. Driver side should work with no fiddling required for AMD atleast, somebody with Nvidia can chime in if it’s the same for them too.
You may need to add a couple Launch options for certain games on steam here and there or swap proton versions.
Games do sometimes break but then you wait a day or two and it’s usually fixed.
Question is what games are you playing? If it’s CoD and Fortnite I’d say stick with Windows, they won’t work.
I switched Windows our with Linux Zorin some weeks ago. Everything works perfect as well, I can play all the games I have on Steam
“In January, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella told analysts that the company would make sales execution changes after the company delivered slower growth than expected in Azure cloud revenue that wasn’t tied to artificial intelligence. Performance in AI cloud growth outdid internal projections.”
Translation: “No one gives a shit about Azure, except for the people we could hoodwink with AI.”
Azure and AWS both have a pretty solid chunk of the data center market.
Like 1/4 and 1/3 respectively.
They didn’t have growth mentality.
Microsoft has 200,000 employees? Dang
And when they start going down financially, they might invade Madagascar or Guyana or something like that as a last resort and turn into a pirate republic, having enough troops. Yes.
arr me hearties, batten down the customer support, load the software cannons!
You’ll have to subscribe to a premium Azure tier to be able to use multiple cannons at once. Consider bundling services into an enterprise war package.
As usual, the Azure SQL server cannon always jams
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Try from India or wherever they’re outsourcing work to
AI is just a fig leaf for the outsourcing that is happening in the industry. SWEs got too fat and now they are being slaughtered by their beloved mage corps…
Online they been told to unionized for better part of the last decade but the mocked us for it because why would they do that!!!
Their daddy good, their daddy treat them right. They are not workers!!! They are future owners 🤡
Should taken a hint when they were asked to use them Indian or other offshore contractors lol
You literally transferred know how to wage slaves in India and now they are cutting you loose. GG, played urself
This is why I make sure I only train people to an incredibly low standard. Training isn’t actually listed in my job role anyway and it ensures job security.
I know, king, me too. I actually told them if they want me to this sort of thing, I will need to get some sort pay bump for it/proper title.
I am IC, why da faq would i do people with out extra coin. These clowns must have been thinking I am retarded, which I am, but I also respect my labour!
Nothing against lower skilled and/or offshored work force but I aint training my replacement for free. I have seen this trick too many times as is.
FUCK YOU, PAY ME
Same, I got laid off recently and 12 years of experience isn’t even getting me interviews at in-person jobs.
You might be too expensive tbh… Their goal is to drive down your wage here IMHO
I am not sure if there is away out.
They did similar things in accounting and law post 2008. Looks tech is this crisis flavor of wage suppression
The way out is to pivot away from now-oversaturated fields.
I am not sure if there is away out
There is and has been this whole time a massive blinking sign that points to the way out and it is called “Unionize”
For the cohort sure but telling a man who need a job to form a union is useless. He needs a job in his field ideally for the same or better comp.
The issue now is that there appears to be an aggressive wage suppression campaign against software developers as result of domestic over supply due to decade old shill campaign along with super aggressive offshoring since covid. Unionizing under these conditions are nearly impossible imho they have unionized when they had market power.
The way out is creating cooperative companies where the programmers have more votes than marketing people.
Don’t worry sounds like they are setting up sweat shops to keep these people busy.
Don’t worry sounds like they are setting up sweat shops to keep these people busy.
Sounds great!
The children yearn for the salt mines!
Yeah, Trump’s making America great by killing white collar industries
True(ish).
and offering factory jobs
Flatly false.
Offering. Not actually delivering. It’s a key attribute of the GOP, make shit up that appeals to the lower educated and fleece the ignorant twats.
But I suppose I need to spell that out to all types.
Haha. Yeah. Stupid Republican voters.
shuffles feet through the tattered remains of all the liberal broken promises
What’s this? Someone said that one was perfect and the other was shit? My gosh!
I agree, let’s say fuck it, throw our hands up and just let what happens happen.
They’re both just as bad as each other.
Or some equal stupid shit.
This would LITERALLY Not have Happened if we just CUT THEIR TAXES! LITERALLY that’s the ONLY Reason Companies LAYOFF Staff!
We should have given Elon another billion! Then, we would truly live in utopia. Alas, it was not so.
now its going to be run by none other than VOUGHT, which is also the evil nazi corporation in the BOYZ.
pre-empting the AI non existent returns
