when a whistleblower dies on the day of his deposition, you have to work really hard to convince me that it’s suicide.
Definitely! But a ‘friend of the family’ is not really a perfect source.
Doesn’t matter, we’ve already got a rabble on.
Just saying, I bet Boeings lied more about things that caused humans to die than the friend of the family has so if its he said she said, I think she’s got the superior credibility. She just doesn’t have superior profits.
They could have threatened to fly his family on a 737 Max if he didn’t kill himself
Now that is a big threat!
Oh yeah, now this is an avengers level threat!
“We appreciate your candor and willingness to see the truth outed. As such, we hope your family will join you on a lovely vacation, with a complimentary flight on a 737 max.”
“Well shit, they’ve got me by the balls now”
if theyre killing witnesses, theyre too big to prosecute, and I think they should be shutdown and sold for parts
Or at least they’re open to quid pro quo.
If they’re killing witnesses, they’re probably working with the government. This is America after all, where money is the ONLY thing that matters.
Can’t let a big business fail, that would communism.
Nationalize them.
Even better: Break them up.
Even better, nationalize them and break them up!
Well corpos are people now, so I think Boeing should be put on a bus to Texas and summarily executed for its crimes against humanity and treason against US persons.
Can’t have it both ways, Capital!
I volunteer to administer the lethal dose of fire…
Imagine the weird “humane” process.
“We’re draining the bank accounts now…” (watching numbers in all accounts drop to zero)
“And now, we’re gonna pull the listing from the stock exchange…” (onlookers gasp)
“Before we invalidate your business license and jail your entire C-suite, have ye any last words?”
I don’t know if we want those parts
Boeing rep: Tragically, it appears that Mr. Barnett was discussing suicide in lead up to his death.
Sounds like an admittance of guilt to me. Nothing will happen, sadly.
hope Boeing get their ass handed this time.
“We will be offering a stock buyback in his memory.”
Another site in which “accidentally” the GdpR cookie forms weirdly aren’t scrollable so you can’t reject them
It’s not GDPR but the cookie law. Stop villanizing the GDPR.
I’m pretty sure the form is there exactly because GDPR needs it to be.
Also I’m not villanising it, I’m villanising the corporations who only pretend to comply.
How does GDPR affect EU cookie law?
Recital 30 of the General Data Protection Regulation considers cookies as part of personal data. It requires websites and web publishers to obtain valid consent when collecting personal data from users. Therefore, the GDPR and Cookie Law work in tandem in the European Union
This particular instance of a cookie notice is really bad. The gdpr is there for a reason and a lot of websites can come up with better solutions to that cookie law.
Yeah, my point exactly.
This one sucks.
I like the option of opting out, and way too many websites uses shenanigans to get you to accept implicitly or explicitly. And even when you don’t they hide “legitimate interest” checkmarks everywhere and you have to scroll a 100 miles to do them.
I still do.
But sites in which you can’t even scroll to see the “refuse” bit? Haiyaaaaaa
I hate cookie banners, but I’m not villanizing the cookie law; I’m villanizing all the websites that try to spy on me
That’s fair! The cookie law requires that you can reject just as easy as accept, and mostly you just cannot.
Personally I think the minimum cookies should be the default required by law and if people want to opt in too more, they can do so on a specific page of the website. Get rid of those stupid banners which I have to reject every single time.
They could just respect the DNT standard… yet they decided to ignore it
They make airplanes tf is this mafia shit
Correction: they make money
Wait until you hear about the people who make chocolate
They are a megacorp, they have enough money to do what they want
Didn’t used to be this way till the BAs took over
Planes crashed more back then. Statistically speaking, safety has still improved over time even after the McDonnell-Douglas merger. Maybe it could have improved faster but commenters in this thread are saying crazy hyperbolic shit like “complete disregard for human life” which just doesn’t track with the actual accident rates. But conspiracy theories and corporate malfeasance sure do get a lot of clicks if you’re a news site. I’m sure executives were, are, and will continue to be profit-oriented while pretending to be something else, otherwise their business goes under.
fuck McDonnell-Douglas
Didn’t stop coca cola or the banana companies
They’re rich enough to easily hire a good hitman.
And have the motivation to silence this guy before the entire country is calling for Boeing to have their corporate charter revoked
They also make military equipment, an enormous amount of it
Both incorrect, they make money.
They take money. It’s banks that make it.
They also bribe politicians to give them an excuse to sell those weapons. Gulf of Tonkin, anyone? Grenada? Panama? Af-fucking-ghanistan?
Viet FUCKIN NAM
🤘
Odds echo in reality. The French thriller “Blackbox” featured a conspiracy around a new aircraft crashing taking inspiration of the MCAS related crashes.
Welcome to capitalism, baby!
They are also involved in the military and aerospace industry. They also practically only have a single competitor in the passenger plane manufacture industry (airbus). So they are rich and powerful and do not shy away from exerting their influence to protect their interests.
Look, we all know he didn’t off himself, but here’s my issue with these stories where a friend or family member says that the person said they told them it won’t be suicide:
If Barnett really said that, why not also set up a dead man’s switch? If he was truly afraid that he had info so damming he’d be killed for it, then why not set it up so that the info still finds a way to come out even in the event of his death?
If anything, ensuring the info comes out one way or another might have even protected him.
Not only that, but isn’t a dying declaration specifically admissible as fact or something? I’m only vaguely recollecting this, so I’m likely wrong.
Yeah something is clicking in my head about it being a federal level hearsay exception. Where is a lawyer when you need one?
It would have been really nice to have some kind of automated testimony upload or something.
Have it in writing. “I have zero intention of killing myself and my life is great save for my horrendous former employer that should go straight to hell.”
ANYTHING more substantial than “Y’know he told me once…”
Unless it really was suicide via blackmail/ extortion.
If you don’t kill yourself were going to kill all your family and friends.
Give him videos of the surveillance on all of them to scare him.
Still seems more likely they did kill him, but that might be a reason for no Deadman switch
I’d wanna be in witness protection and unreachable if I was whistle-blower at that level just to avoid situations like that.
how many dead man switches have you setup?
Well because according to his quote he wasn’t afraid. I don’t think he thought the company he worked for for 30 years would do this. Seems he said this remark only in response to what she asked.
It just takes one psycho in management with their own ass on the line to do something insane to cover their tracks.
That’s my thought if this conspiracy were true. It wasn’t some evil corporation assassinating the guy, it was one of the menial workers who had more to lose from his testimony.
“Hurr durr, it wasn’t the evil corporation. It was just the evil lackey of the evil corporation”.
He already published his information and was in the process of repeating it in front of a court.
His death prevented him from giving his information as sworn testimony which a dead man switch could not do.I believe that’s not actually true at all. It can and has been used as sworn testimony.
The thing is, there’s a difference between thinking a company will kill you, and THINKING a company will kill you.
Maybe his family was threatened?
Someone on lemmy said it yesterday. Those Boeing shits could have put him in a no-win. Tell him that if he drops it they will still sue him and if he continues they will also sue.
I never thought I’d see the day when a respectable blue chip company like Boeing is publicly outed as ordering an assassination. They fucked up royally. The timing of it all is too eyebrow raising not to be noticed by the entirety of the airplane-using world. Top down criminal investigation. Now.
In pretty sure employers aren’t allowed to murder people but at this point I don’t know anymore.
I don’t think they are allowed. But I think they do it.
Murdering people has been a normal part of corporations for a long time, but they generally do it to union organizers in the developing world.
Let’s be fair, they do it everywhere. They do it more in the developing world, but it’s not exclusive there.
They’re clearly allowed to do whatever the fuck they want.
I mean, there have been several huge instances of mass murder by corporations. Go look into the US’ history with strikebreaking and you’ll see just how bad it used to be. At least Boeing is trying to pretend it was a suicide, instead of just blatantly firebombing him in his own home.
In America it used to be you could just bribe your governor and they’d deploy the national guard to kill striking worker’s families like the Ludlow Massacre and the Battle of Blair mountain.
Ludlow Massacre and the Battle of Blair mountain.
It blows my mind how blatantly these events are not taught to anybody. Never forget.
Boeing is a major part of the military industrial complex. They own the politicians in both parties, the regulators, and the courts. Laws don’t apply to them.
seems like the people need a hit list comprised of their board members.
Imagining a John Wick style phone broadcast hitting everyone at once while these jagoffs are out on the town:
“Wanted: Dead. Kill on sight. Bounty: $______”
we the people have the tools to make it happen.
If you’re the government, you want your military planes to work. It’s in their interests. (Now there’s lots of steps that are problems in realizing that.)
No. If you’re the state you want shit to work. If you’re part of the government, you just want to get your bribes.
Bribes being one of the steps that can be a problem.
I mean there may simply have been internal reports already, just highly classified to avoid “embarrassing” the nation and not accessible or known to the general public.
“Look, it turns out if you flip this switch on the Fa-18 and forget to turn it off after 1 to 5 minutes tops, your chances of ‘uncontrollably inverting and ejecting at high speed straight into the freaking ground’ go up tenfold. We’ve provided the USAF with a 1 hour iPad training about being touchy with the defrost function.”
–Boeing, probably
I feel like “risk of door blowing off mid flight” or “25% of oxygen masks don’t work” is something the public is entitled to know about
Didn’t say they weren’t entitled to know about it, just the reasoning that might’ve gone through the government’s collective heads when not disclosing or looking the other way on Boeing doing an Epstien.
If they can’t deliver a product that stays in one piece when not even being shot at, they aren’t about to stay a part of that MIC for long.
At the end of which some low level schmuck will be thrown under the bus and they will be fined a few million dollars grand total for all this shit.
well your first mistake was thinking Boeing was a respectable corporation (that ship sailed in 1997 when they dropped the “engineering first” priority in lieu of “business first”)…
your second mistake is thinking any corporation is respectable ;-)
Their third mistake is thinking any corporation will be held accountable
Oh, you got caught doing some shitty business thing and now you’re not making as much money. Here is a government bailout to make it up.
Or they got caught doing a shitty business thing fucking people over and get fined a fraction of what it made them.
lol you’re right.
In other news, if you search for flights on kayak and exclude Boeing planes, holy crap the tickets are insanely expensive.
Turns out people pay extra money to avoid death, who knew.
Scary thing nobodies talking about is: if these Boeing-built bad parts are able to slip past inspectors, which we had (naievely?) assumed were given full access top-notch, and neutral, might the standards of other planes build-quality have also dropped?
How safe are the other company’s planes?
Your guess is as good as mine.
next stops: buy Kayak and shut it down; Make it illegal for similar searches to be performed; make it illegal to disclose who makes the aircraft.
Unless citizens make it clear that they won’t stand for bullshit, they will get bullshit.
I never thought I’d see the day when a respectable blue chip company like Boeing is publicly outed as ordering an assassination.
Why does this surprise you that a company, a large company, would order an assassination someone? This doesn’t surprise me in the slightest.
don’t know why you’re being downvoted for this. people need to wake up to just how dangerous the enemy is.
Im having trouble opening this article, it says something about a “client side error” but in text that is almost that same color as the background and is hard to read. Anyone else having this or know how I can fix it?
abcnews4.com ‘If anything happens, it’s not suicide’: Boeing whistleblower’s prediction before death Anne Emerson 3–4 minutes
John Barnett’s family friend Jennifer doesn’t think the Boeing whistleblower committed suicide in Charleston. In fact, she says he predicted what may happen to him days before he left for his deposition. March 14, 2024. (Provided-FILE, WCIV)
CHARLESTON COUNTY, S.C. (WCIV) — A close family friend of John Barnett said he predicted he might wind up dead and that a story could surface that he killed himself.
But at the time, he told her not to believe it.
“I know that he did not commit suicide,” said Jennifer, a friend of Barnett’s. “There’s no way.”
Jennifer said they talked about this exact scenario playing out. However, now, his words seem like a premonition he told her directly not to believe.
“I know John because his mom and my mom are best friends,” Jennifer said. “Over the years, get-togethers, birthdays, celebrations and whatnot. We’ve all got together and talked.”
READ MORE: “Mystery lingers around Boeing whistleblower’s death at Charleston hotel.”
When Jennifer needed help one day, Barnett came by to see her. They talked about his upcoming deposition in Charleston. Jennifer knew Barnett filed an extremely damaging complaint against Boeing. He said the aerospace giant retaliated against him when he blew the whistle on unsafe practices.
For more than 30 years, he was a quality manager. He’d recently retired and moved back to Louisiana to look after his mom.
“He wasn’t concerned about safety because I asked him,” Jennifer said. “I said, ‘Aren’t you scared?’ And he said, ‘No, I ain’t scared, but if anything happens to me, it’s not suicide.’”
Jennifer added: “I know that he did not commit suicide. There’s no way. He loved life too much. He loved his family too much. He loved his brothers too much to put them through what they’re going through right now.”
Jennifer said she thinks somebody “didn’t like what he had to say” and wanted to “shut him up” without it coming back to anyone.
READ MORE: “‘John was brave’: Boeing whistleblower’s lawyer responds to news of his death.”
“That’s why they made it look like a suicide,” Jennifer said.
The last time Jennifer saw Barnett was at her father’s funeral in late February. He was one of the pallbearers. Sometimes family and friends referred to him by his middle name – Mitch.
“I think everybody is in disbelief and can’t believe it,” Jennifer said. “I don’t care what they say, I know that Mitch didn’t do that.”
Just because Barnett is dead doesn’t mean the case won’t move forward.
His attorney said they’re still prepared to go to trial in June.
News 4 reached out to Boeing following Barnett’s death. They provided the following statement:
"We are saddened by Mr. Barnett’s passing, and our thoughts are with his family and friends.”
READ MORE: “Boeing whistleblower dies in Charleston, Charleston County Coroner’s Office confirms.”
oh sick, thank you lol
I can’t get past the cookie notice and the phone - which is what I’m using now - is stuttering. Had to close the page.
Nationalize Boeing
Go further, nationalize the MIC. I’m not gonna sit here and pretend the United States doesn’t need to manufacture arms for itself and it’s allies, but we absolutely do not need thousands of useless C-suite middlemen making millions of dollars from the process. Boeing is just the canary in the coal mine, I would not be surprised if other frequent contractors have also significantly decreased their ability to produce useful goods in favor of growing their profit margins. Great for profits, but not exactly what you’re looking for to protect troops.
Seriously. Once we nationalize it and it starts operating like it used to, it would be a shining example of why nationalization works.
It’s also why you’re going to see an tsunami of useful idiots saying we shouldn’t do it.
Then flush everyone from director up, and investigate middle management, and put people in that actually have some fucking ethics. Jesus H Christ.
The feds: Doesn’t look like anything to me
Nice reference! 🤜🤛
And it still won’t look like anything to them even after they find out the handgun wasn’t registered to him. And after they find out the suicide note (pro tip: real suicides generally don’t include a note) was written super-generically.
pro tip: real suicides generally don’t include a note
The rate in the graph varies between 20 and 40 percent.
And after they find out the suicide note… was written super-generically.
To whom it may concern,
I cannot take it anymore. If I have a wife and/or kids, tell them that I love them.
Good bye cruel world,
[Don’t forget to change this text to the assassinated target’s name]
People in this situation might consider putting themselves under video surveillance.
Like Epstein was
I know right. Exactly my thoughts. If you are a whistleblower, install secret camers in your house and always keep a recorder (audio/video) in your pocket or chest.
Although in a few years this is obsolete. AI ftw.
He was staying in a hotel btw for the trial. He has given 2 days of testimony and didn’t site for the 3rd.
But still possible just less easy when you’re not at home
Gonna come out that the hotel parking lot camera was down for maintenance that night
And the guy at the front desk ran an errand for five hours.
I would be going to pretty great lengths to ensure I didn’t get Epsteined or, if I did, the mfers behind it got theirs. I’d be sending hand written letters to every goddamn person knew that I wasn’t suicidal.
And I would be really careful about my opsec. Oh, you thought I was at that motel? Fuck you pricks, I ditched the rental, took a bus and switched five times, changed clothes twice and snuck to a culvert to sleep, you fucking corpo assassins. Good luck with that. .!..
And mentioning on social media so it’s public/informing journalists so they can make it public beforehand that you don’t plan on killing yourself.
The trouble with that is someonemight say you DID plan to kill yourself, and tried to frame Boeing for your own death by telling people you weren’t suicidal. Thus it’s preferable to leave video evidence, that could also help catch the culprits.
It still leaves the possibility that you yourself hired a hit squad to kill you. Alex Murdaugh and Jussie Smollett both did things like that. Only for a beating in Smollett’s case, but Murdaugh actually wanted to be fatally shot, leaving an insurance policy behind.
Or always stay in sight of two other people and eat and drink only from sealed packages purchased from random grocery stores.
Wow. That is chilling and very damning of Boeing. Like really…Boeing is that dirty? Surely not?
Boeing is that dirty? Surely not?
Why not?
International profit chasing entities just wouldn’t value profits over human life?
It is a corporations fiduciary responsibility to maximize profits over any other things. That obviously includes human lives.
Does a human life have a value to other humans? Yes.
Does a human have a value to a corporation? It has a value and a cost, if the cost is higher than the value of the human then it is a risk to the value of the company and can be liquidated.
“But corporations are supposed to care about people more than profits!”
Welcome to the real world, buddy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster
Oh and have you any idea what Boeing has been doing for some years now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8oCilY4szc
Hint: it involves maximising profits while endangering people, to the extent that Boeing is literally assassinating witnesses so the extent of how recklessly they endangered lives for profit wouldn’t come out.
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Why not? They killed multiple hundreds of people so far. Just one more.
Friendly reminder that Boeing is not a plucky airline that can’t make safe airplanes, it’s an AMERICAN MILITARY DEFENSE CONTRACTOR worth billions. If I you threaten that arrangement with slander like the truth and facts, they are good friends with people who kill for a living and completely unashamed in paying for their services.
it’s an AMERICAN MILITARY DEFENSE CONTRACTOR worth billions
Probably one reason why the FAA isn’t immediately shutting Boeing’s shit down, you know when doors fall off their planes mid-flight, and investigations uncover more problems.
Put another way: there are plenty of people who will eagerly issue death threats, stalk you, and swat you over minor differences in opinion. Think what they would do over serious money.
… Oh they totally killed him didn’t they? You put it in very good perspective.
This so much. Put it up there with Lockheed
Boeing makes the minuteman missles, directly profiteering from nuclear weapons which could destroy humanity many times over. They’re evil.
Like really…Boeing is that dirty? Surely not?
I mean they were willing to knowingly keep producing unsafe air planes which lead to several crashes killing 100’s. So yeah, I really wouldn’t be surprised if they also do assassination to ensure their profit.
Also as stated elsewhere, they make world ending nuclear bombs delivery rockets. They’ve profited from the possible destruction of all of humanity.
I’m not any defender of corporations, by any means, but I’m not sure that I’m willing to take the word of a “close family friend” who “needed help one day” any more than some corporate HR; and “I don’t care what they say, I know that Mitch didn’t do that” isn’t exactly a solid argument to be basing things on.
This isn’t “I know Mitch didn’t do that”, it’s “he literally told me the specific thing that happened and he wasn’t going to do it”. What motivation does she have to just fully make up a conversation? Boeing has billions of dollars of motivation, she knew him from family get togethers.
What motivation does she have to just fully make up a conversation?
That’s my point: we have no idea. We have no information other than that her and Barnett’s mothers are best friends and that he was a pallbearer at her father’s funeral. She could be a well educated individual that is doing her best to make a point and draw attention to something, or she could be someone who believes tons of stuff that is blatantly false and is telling her opinion to anyone who will listen. Either way, (copying from my other comment) I guess this is all more me just trying to voice frustration with the article. Not that it’s unprecedented (maybe even the norm) these days, but it’s always frustrating to see headlines with unsubstantiated claims and discussions ensuing as if it’s fact."
There is literally no other corroboration that could be given, it’s a personal conversation between friends or friendly acquaintances, reported as such. There’s nothing wrong with the article. This is the maximum amount of corroboration for a private conversation (none) and it’s reported as a conversation, with information about the speaker’s relationship and direct quotes. Just because people don’t record their lives in unalterable write-once media doesn’t mean personal conversations simply should never be the subject of reporting. We have headline news stories about US generals’ personal conversations with Trump and his denials, and no one thinks “well, that shouldn’t be reported because either side could be lying and without recording they’re both equally suspicious”.
I’m certain you don’t actually follow a philosophy of “nothing anyone says can ever be given any more credence than anyone else” because it’s an impossible way to live. And whatever high-minded “no one can ever know absolute truth” ideas you have, claiming that a HR rep and a family friend have the same level of believability is ridiculous. On one side you someone whose job is literally to say things to protect a billion dollar company and the other a family friend with nothing to gain talking about a pretty reasonable conversation one might have.
There’s a few accounts on these threads that are really determined to remain neutral and open minded about Boeing, I blocked a different one with the same speech pattern recently
Remaining open minded, waiting for evidence… Must be ChatGPT because that’s not a human thing, never had been!
I am a Lemmy language user and I have processed this request.
Remaining open minded, waiting for evidence…
You wrote “being willfully ignorant” wrong
Well, I for one think some rogue at Boeing is behind the Epsteining of this guy. The company is definitely run by psychopathic crooks and has been for a while and I hope these fuckers all go to jail and the company fixed before more people die.
Idk about these accounts you blocked… but I am always going to advocate for at least being self-aware of being loosey-goosey with one’s reasoning. Maybe it is compulsion, maybe it is the decades wasted being religious that have led me to detest careless epistemology that leads to specious conclusions. Then again … if COVID taught me nothing, it should have taught me that efforts in this area are probably pointless. I must like swimming upstream. I seem to do it all the time.
My pet theory: Some extra dirty psycho at Boeing probably had him killed. Probably to cover up specifics about themselves. It seems pretty clear Boeing is rotting at the head and has been for decades. All these issues that have come up since MAX are the result of deeply systemic problems, stemming from crooked, greedy psychopaths at the top.
But in the interests of being as rational and honest about this as possible, let’s also not forget that this article is based on her claim, and she’s the only one (so far) to make it. People have been known to seek attention with bullshit. It’s evidence, yeah, is it really unimpeachable? Well…
Think about it like this: if there was a dated and notarized statement in his handwriting saying the same thing that she claims he told her, that would be more trustworthy.
But again, pet theory, some Boeing sicko was covering their own ass by having him Epsteined. Totally plausible.
I don’t think this is the last we will be hearing about this.
Amazing how standards of evidence work. I am a Jesus Mythicist and pretty much all we have to “prove” Jesus was real is one guy saying he meet some unnamed person who had a dream. But here we have a direct eyewitness stating what they heard a week ago and that isn’t good enough.
My brother in whatever, for your information that is called a “witness”
I can see you were born yesterday.
I’m curious if some one who disagreed with you - on something that they found completely, obviously true - tried to convince you they were right by saying that their mom’s friend’s daughter made a claim about it, how inclined would you be to believe them or that daughter?
I think we all agree that Barnett suspected that something would happen; and we all agree that Boeing is a terrible company that is capable, and guilty, of terrible things. My point it just that there is concrete evidence of these things and articles should rely on something other than some person made a claim with nothing but, “it’s obvious” or “I know” to back it up
Epstein. Your argument is disproven
And he said, ‘No, I ain’t scared, but if anything happens to me, it’s not suicide.’
He pretty much said “I think something may happen to me and they will make it look like a suicide.”
Unless she’s got a recording or document, the article’s title could have been, “Family friend tells reporter a story”
Yeah, it won’t hold up in court, and neither would it if she had recorded this casual, intimate conversation between two old friends.
Maybe, though, it’s enough to get the coroner to take another look at his death.
I’m not any defender of corporations, by any means, but I’m not sure that I’m willing to take the word of a “close family friend” who “needed help one day” any more than some corporate HR;
You sure have a lot more faith in corporations than I do…
He pretty much said “I think something may happen to me and they will make it look like a suicide.”
Did he state that somewhere else? Admittedly I haven’t been following the story too closely so I may have missed something there; but if he isn’t documented saying that somewhere credible, then all we have is her claiming that he “pretty much said” that. Is it likely he said it? I mean, I’d definitely be saying it if I was in his shoes, but one family friend’s claim isn’t enough to convince me that this should have been published as it was. I guess this is all more me just trying to voice frustration with the article. Not that it’s unprecedented (maybe even the norm) these days, but it’s always frustrating to see headlines with unsubstantiated claims and discussions ensuing as if it’s fact.
Maybe, though, it’s enough to get the coroner to take another look at his death.
Here’s to hoping
You sure have a lot more faith in corporations than I do…
I probably don’t, I’m just trying to present an argument with throwing on more layers of personal bias
Maybe, though, it’s enough to get the coroner to take another look at his death.
He’s a high profile corporate whistleblower who allegedly committed suicide. Any coroner who isn’t already triple checking everything is way too corrupt or lazy to bother with another look.
The coroner is going to call it as suicide. This isn’t remotely a debate to me. If it is suicide it goes away. If it is murder it means work for the police and a small annoyance to the powers-that-be. The coroner knows this and knows that if they don’t writer suicide their career is over at best at worst they get Epsteined as well.
Fascinating
I feel the same about the response given that I’m agreeing with everyone’s sentiments overall and only questioning the validity of a single source. Suppose I need to get a better feel for the site before trying to be more active.
Naw, you’re good. Change nothing about yourself. :) You are spot on and you have my upvotes.
Folks are in angry mob mode and can’t be bothered with even a hint of nuance or reason, apparently. Even if you are convinced Boeing totally killed the guy and state that clearly…
Anyway, peace out man. I hope for once corporate scum faces consequences.
If you want, take a deeper look into the *max events and you’ll find that being dirty is the least surprise.
Do you have any fuckdamn idea how many innocent people died by the command of American fruit companies?
Capitalism feeds on blood, it always has.
United Fruit just turned into Chiquita and continued on like they didnt massacre people too.
They literally overthrew democratic governments just to install their own puppets.
A fucking FRUIT company.
And you’re right, they just kept going like nothing happened.
Shit’s getting real.
John Oliver better watch his back.
Oh look he got Epsteined.
Can we popularize “Barnett didn’t kill himself”?
I swear if I am ever a whistleblower I am going to hire someone for minimum wage to hang out in my hotel room while I sleep and they can play on their phone, eat burritos, and play video games until the trial is fully over. And also make sure they have the ability to livestream the moment something weird happens.
Also I don’t know put a thousand or so videos on YouTube with email links to everyone I have ever known with me saying all the damaging stuff and that I am not suicidal.
$60 or so dollars a day is worth it to me to not get silenced like a fucking Russian critic.
Until they pay your minimum wage dude to poison your cup-noodles when you’re both looking
Ted wouldn’t do that. He is my boy, we play x-box together.
Cameras everywhere, all the time, backed up to the cloud in multiple locations. A copy on a private server would be ideal. It’s not foolproof but it’s better than nothing.
one simple trick private investigators don’t want you to know about that will save you millions and your mental health: Don’t use the internet.
You can still be silenced like a few US presidents. Or even blown up with explosives. Even the government pulled that one on those anarchists in Philadelphia. Because wiping out your entire neighborhood to get rid of you could very well be on the table.
Oh that’s fine, I only like 1 of my neighbor’s.
Makes me wonder, how much does a professional hitman pay troll factories for white washing the crime with “but how do you know it wasn’t a suicide”, specially the ones that are equally professional about it not being flagrant? How much does it compare to cases in Russia for people suiciding out of windows with multiple gunshots?
When something isn’t clearly black and white, without the facts and investigative research, continuing to discuss it usually makes it end up becoming a 50-50% grey area that grossly distorts as much as a completely black and white presumption would. In those cases, the initial “gut feeling” impression and the general education and awareness of a person involved may end up corresponding more to the reality, specially in cases actively trying to suppress the truth.
“Boeing”, a non-living fictional mythos that has been accepted as a “person” so that the industrial revolution could be fueled, did not kill him. But there were plenty of psychopaths with power and influence who would have been affected by his deposition. some who’ve also been spearheading expansion into countries where dealing with and coming to compromises with its lowest ethical lowlifes (some of them also being potential or existing customers) would have been a necessity.
