Looks like someone took some shots at prez candidate Donald Trump at a rally in PA. From the videos I’ve seen, it looks like he did get grazed.
So? This happens in Schools all the time?
I suppose we need even more guns.
Practical solution for a practical problem
After giving due remarks, could Biden sign an executive order for sweeping gun control and name it after Trump and present this incident as the impetus?
No the executive can’t create laws.
Genius.
Disarming the resistance right before a fascist takeover is not the genius move you think it is.
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This wouldn’t have happened if Trump had a gun on him smh
Or everyone else in the crowd had one
Isn’t he banned being a feeling?
He sure is.
Isn’t he banned being a feeling?
Oh, he’s More Than a Feeling
Technically not a felon until sentencing.
So in the mean time, wr can call him:
Presumptive felon nominee
Felony frontrunner
Felon elect
If he was wearing armor made of guns he wouldn’t be bleeding.
Yeah we do, that guy missed.
Almost
Come on man, you’re making me laugh at someone getting shot. XD
Guess some of those 2nd Ammendment guys might be “trying to do something about it” eh Donnie?
This is what you get when you preach hate 24/7. This isn’t a gameshow.
Well, it was probably staged, so….
Absolutely. False flag for sure.
I dunno. I saw the footage. If the guy from Home Alone 2 was acting, he’d be a lot more blatant.
Plus, wouldn’t secret service be in on it? I bet you they can’t stand the guy either.
From my understanding, his service detail are all true believers. Remember, most LEOs and the like are very right wing.
Well, that may be true. According to AP, the gunman and an attendee are dead. So… not staged.
Just because it wasn’t fake doesn’t mean it wasn’t intentional. Hypothetically, his campaign pays off a gunman to take off a bit of his ear, and he gets the opportunity to motivate republicans and call his diehard supporters to violence.
A dead shooter also can’t tell his side of the story. Just sayin’
At least two confirmed dead:
Butler County District attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that a shooter was dead and that a rally attendee had also been killed.
One of the attendees in the bleachers was hit:
https://imgur.com/a/V0SyhKENews is also saying that 2 are dead: https://news.sky.com/story/shots-fired-at-donald-trump-rally-as-former-president-rushed-off-stage-13177651
Butler County District attorney told the Associated Press (AP) that a shooter was dead and that a rally attendee had also been killed.
This doesn’t sound like it was staged.
that a shooter was dead
In other words he can’t be questioned
The bullet is totally a crisis actor, you can also see it in that one Reagan clip. /s
Can be seen in the JFK “assassination” as well. Dude gets around. Was younger then and could do some crazy acrobatics back then though.
What bullet?
People might disagree with you here, so let me share a quote from the article:
Trump stood up and held his fist in the air with what appeared to be blood dripping down his face.
Several secret service agents surrounded him as he put his hand up and appeared to shout “fight” to his supporters who began cheering.
This is an overwhelming PR win for Donald Trump and likely to be an extremely successful catalyst for inciting more insurrectionist violence. It’s too perfect of a scenario to be coincidental, especially considering he’s a chickenshit coward that would demand a human shield in front of him if he thought he was in any actual danger.
I’m just sick at how much of a coup this is for the Trump campaign. That photo is going to do so much work
Also right as steam was picking up about Project 2025.
The shooter and an audience member are dead. How Machiavellian do you think these people are that they’d kill two people for a PR stunt?
What? Are you fucking delusional? I understand brown people are not really people for you guys there, but do you realize how many people indirectly and directly “these” people have killed in Syria alone, counting only cases of being simply too lazy?
Killing two people for fucking presidency? You think it’s unrealistic?
Anyway, the answer to the question “how Machiavellian” is “fully” for everybody participating in politics, because we are still homo sapiens and our time is just as Machiavellian as Machiavelli’s time, there are no naive people there, and if there are no poisonings and assassinations left and right there, that’s for the same reason only there are no nukings left and right on the map, not because they are moral.
I understand brown people are not really people for you guys
What the fuck… ?
How am I delusional for not thinking this was staged? The moving parts required for it to be staged are an order of magnitude more complex and voluminous than it just being a lone nut with an AR-15. Unless you have some actual solid verifiable evidence that calls the boring reality of the situation into question, I’d maybe dial down the rhetoric a tad.
Yeah I too thought it was staged until bodies showed up. Anyone continuing to say this was staged at this point feels very Alex Jones.
I don’t think it was staged, but I also don’t think they would give a shit if other people died during a staged shooting.
I agree, but I don’t think Donny is brave enough to allow lethal ammo to stage anything.
Honestly: do you think they have regard for people’s lives? Not that I think this is staged.
They’d surely have regard for Trump’s life, no? I mean “they” shot him in the ear. An inch closer and he’d likely be dead.
Yeah, SS would have stormed him out of the area and into a safe place within moments of that shit. There’s no way they’d have cleared the area. No one would have known if there were a second or third shooter.
Now they’re saying someone is dead and they got the shooter?
Supposedly, the shooter is dead. How awfully convenient that he won’t be able to tell his side of the story.
Again, I wouldn’t be surprised if they just shot a random person, claimed they were the shooter and wrapped this up.
He is an abhorrently cruel person. And those that follow him are as well. None of this is outlandish enough to not be true.
I had to do a double take on that abbreviation
Right? USSS is the proper abbreviation for the United States Secret Service.
Same meaning at this point.
Schutzstaffel, as in protective service would probably be a better description of what they actually do I guess
Secret service better fits sg like the CIA
Don’t stoop to that level. Assume it was real. Base your conclusions on evidence. Not conspiracies.
Unless it was a blood capsule or something the guy is too much of a pussy to pull something like this off.
You recall that he wanted to rip off his suit and display a Superman logo after beating covid, right?
Id say it’s on brand.
Blood capsule or something similar.
“There was ketchup dripping down his cheeks”
—Cassidy Hutchinson
The New York Times is refusing to say any bullets were fired, just that there were “pops” that sounded like gunfire.
So it wouldn’t necessarily require any actual danger.
Plus an image of some blood on the bleacher from a live stream that kept running:
Why?
I mean it might have been, but with the modern insanity around politics and guns and violence, and the general unhinged nature of the population generally, it’s equally or more likely to be some deranged person with a gun. WHY for the love of god add to the chaos by speculating without any evidence yet? Does it help?
Because speculation is all we have with someone like Trump who seemingly failed upward with his every move. Do you think we’re going to ever know what really happened? This shit was clean. Despite the fact that he was allowed to stand and shake a defiant fist moments later, without knowing if there were more shooters. How did his secret service know the area was secure? In reality, he would have been rushed to safety within a minute of the shooting.
Yeah. Here’s what speculation allows for;
• Gets found guilty 34 times over? Gets more followers.
• Gets found guilty of sexual assault. Gets more followers
• Gets tied to Epstein. Gets more followers
• Gets shot at. Wins an election.
There is no stopping that fat fuck because theres no limit to American ignorance.
https://x.com/merylkornfield/status/1812263916497506711?s=46
According to a Washington Post reporter that talked with the district attorney, an audience member and the shooter are dead. Not a stunt.
Not a stunt.
Just want to point out that doesn’t prove it’s not a stunt at all.
Was the shooter alone? What’s his history? Did he have a family? Do they end up with money suddenly at some point in the near future?
Collateral damage is definitely something the Trump team wouldn’t give a single shit about. An innocent attendee dying wouldn’t stop them at all, if anything they’d likely think it adds credibility.
Dictators staging their own fake assassination attempts to garner sympathy isn’t anything new. And we know Trump views several of them as role models
It could be a legitimate attempted assassination,but it just as easily could have been staged, especially given it doesn’t seem the weapon itself was a real danger, at least not at that range. And it it really was something like a pellet or bb gun, not much of a danger at all unless literally next to Trump. Even a .22 needs to be pretty damned close to be deadly. Anything higher caliber doesn’t seem to match up with the witness reports or the audio we’ve seen.
Not to mention the weird Secret Service reaction immediately following. Why the fuck would they let him stand back up and fist pump the sky immediately after getting shot at? That’s literally the opposite of what they should be doing. Unless there wasn’t a real threat.
My worry is that some lunatic right winger is trying to push us to civil war.
We’re already there. They just haven’t started the American Violence™ phase yet. Right now we’re in the American Saber Rattling™ phase.
i keep thinking of that too…
reap what you sow
This is clearly a false flag. The injury is either the squib going off or him hitting his head.
Did anyone see that side of his face before the shots? That could just be ketchup from his steak lunch.
It’s not clear at all that that’s what happened. It is completely plausible that someone would shoot a firearm at a candidate in a hotly contested presidential election. Let wait for evidence to roll in yeah?
You know for a fact that if the shoe were on the other foot, this is exactly the rhetoric we’d be hearing.
Yeah but that’s because Republicans are fuckin idiots
Yes it would be the case. Should we start behaving like right wing conspiracy theorists now?
Doesn’t make it right or acceptable.
You’re right. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit. But I still hold all parties to a standard of honest discourse.
So let’s not do what they do and live in an evidence-based world and not an emotion-based one.
The “facts don’t care about your feelings” party doesn’t care about facts and spends a lot of time on how their feelings are hurt.
My evidence (in addition to the weirdness of his reaction, and the convenient blood) - has any article mentioned a shooter being seen/shot/arrested/known to exist? I can’t remember a time where there was a shooting and no article said ANYTHING about a shooter, only about the shots. Nothing could be better for the Trump campaign than for him to be “almost” assassinated.
Bruh it happened like an hour ago. But news stories about the shooter being killed are coming out now.
Shooter dead and audience member killed
A person believed to be a shooter at today’s Donald Trump Pennsylvania rally is dead, as well as an audience member in attendance, the Butler County District Attorney has said.
In addition to the two fatalities, one other person is believed to be in a critical condition.
Wonder if this should be posted as a new article to the news communities? It’s important, more relevant information.
Unfortunately that’s just one update on a page with regular updates. You would have to find a better link.
OK fair, I couldn’t find any such reference when I looked, but clearly did a shit job.
I’m still not capable of believing anything in Trump’s life is genuine, so it still feels staged to me, but I acknowledge that my evidence has been debunked.
Sure. It could have been faked.
On the other hand, if I was an unhinged person with a gun and I thought there was a good chance a fascist dictator might run the U.S., I might be inclined to try to do something about it.
There’s no reason not to rule something like that out.
I wouldn’t be surprised either way, honestly. It would be the right timing for a false flag though for sure.
But then on the other hand this is the prescribed treatment for tyrants, per our fore-bearers.
You’re doing what they do .
Yes. You are correct. On reflection I should have put quotes around it as it was intented to convey that but not actually imply that it was the case. It is good you called it out.
Some are speculating it was staged for promotional purposes.
From the article:
Trump stood up and held his fist in the air with what appeared to be blood dripping down his face.
Several secret service agents surrounded him as he put his hand up and appeared to shout “fight” to his supporters who began cheering.
An excellent PR stunt and call to action for his violent insurrectionist supporters, if you ask me.
Some? They anyone with a functional brain that has been paying attention. Nothing the dude has ever done has been honest.
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That’s called a false flag attack. I could believe it, but I could also believe it was a sincere attack.
Being serious about it for a moment, it’s extremely unlikely that it’s a false flag attack. It’s fun to joke about the idea, but the reality is that it doesn’t appear to be staged, and he’s far too much of a coward to agree to have somebody shoot at him.
Besides that, there’s plenty of politically-unaffiliated groups or individuals who would probably want him gone just for how his last term contributed to the abortion bans, reunification of church and state (in some states), government corruption, etc.
Would he be told about this plan? It’d certainly be more convincing if he didn’t know, and was set up by the RNC.
there’s also plenty of fence sitters and centrists who I sincerely believe would vote for him on tough guy vibes alone, despite him being a coward
Hes fully too much of a coward to be shot at.
But you’re assuming he was shot at. Ducked, hidden away from camera, then blood on him.
No one is ducking a bullet
Right after meeting with Orban who just met with Putin? I don’t know if I really think that, but I would say it’s possible.
I would not put this beyond him.
I think it would be. Not morally, just i don’t think he’s competent enough.
I see blood but I don’t see a wound. Are they really going to try and pass that the perfect hole there is a bullet hole? Wouldn’t a gun shot wound there take a bigger portion of the ear?
Depends on the hit. There’s not much blood so it might just be a graze.
Probably bounced off his thick skull.
Paramedic here. All parts of the head are very vascular, and so any head injury at all bleeds fantastically. If the top of his ear got clipped, that would be enough to produce that much blood.
Depends on the round. A lot of factors come into play on gunshot wounds, including velocity, mass, resistance, angle. There is even some possibility that the round just barely missed, but the displacement of air is actually what broke skin.
There is even some possibility that the round just barely missed, but the displacement of air is actually what broke skin.
That is an urban legend. I’ve been missed by some pretty large caliber rounds in war and I’ve seen some pretty large caliber rounds barely miss people. No damage is done. You have to make contact with the round (or vice versa) for it to do damage.
Suspicious account with no comments or posts before today, but almost a year old.
I’m literally just a dude. I usually don’t have time to post, and haven’t really felt the need to comment, but I had a rare day off where i felt like I could actually take part in conversation.
Guy I agree his account history looks a little sus, but isn’t that a little bit of the pot calling the kettle black? You have 3 comments since December.
I don’t comment a lot, but I have way more comments than that.
Ah I see why, I had the main few communities you post in blocked. My bad. I rescind my comment. Note to everyone else: Check histories in a private tab so you can see even communities that you have blocked.
The crowing will begin soon
Looks like one of the bullets actually got him in the ear, as he grabs is ear right away. I thought it was from him getting tackled down by the secret service.
So the shooter was almost a good shot. So close.
According to TMZ a secret service agent said the bullet hit his teleprompter and glass shrapnel hit his ear.
https://www.tmz.com/2024/07/13/donald-trump-appear-shot-pennsylvania-rally-president-election/
Was the teleprompter behind him?
No clue. I would assume it was in front, I’m merely attempting to spread actual information, unfortunately it is from a less than reputable source, but looking at their timeline, they seem to be covering all possible snippets of information from the scene, without speculating on the motives of the shooter.
If it was in front, then it would not have hit his right ear as he was looking to the left.
Ricochets happen with shrapnel.
Around his head?
Fake news. He will make up anything for attention.
Biden testing his Presidential Immunity.
Just a warning shot
Just a little off the top
Gotta start somewhere.
Official Act™
C-span footage: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5123735/shots-fired-trump-rally
If at first you don’t succeed, try try again.
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if bolsonaro is any indication, this is just turning him into a martyr.
really terrible job by whoever tried it.
