• Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub
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    3 days ago

    I’m just gonna not pay for anything, pirate everything and use an ablocker and clients to get Youtube for free.

    I don’t really care about being morally right. I’m just going to steal as much content as possible without giving any kind of a shit forever, unironically.

  • deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 days ago

    I don’t consider YouTube to be in the same category as these other streaming services. I use YouTube way more as the content is more interesting to me. But still…

    1. Most of the streaming services have subscriptions (some with ads). YouTube is completely free with ads (ublock origin saves the day).
    2. Content on YouTube is very different from other streaming services. I know YouTube have dipped its toes in the tv show market e.g. the karate kid series but nothing compared to the big productions like white lotus or lord of the rings.
    3. Length of content. YouTube is anywhere from 1 minutes to infinity (almost). Traditional shows on streaming services often is around 45 minutes +/- 15.
    4. YouTube had the worst recommendations algorithm nowadays. Seems to be the general opinion yet YouTube aren’t listening.

    Probably more points I haven’t thought of.

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    4 days ago

    How much attention is paid? I frequently throw on YouTube for background noise. I only hit up Netflix or Disney if I actually want to watch something. I bet I’m not alone.

  • Ledericas@lemm.ee
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    4 days ago

    youtubes also a place for people to binge on right wing content, that youtube love to push, when your not logging in, it can get people hooked easily.

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      4 days ago

      I have never understood people who just watch whatever is served up to them. It’s like they go out of their way not to have a preference.

      If you actually curate your content it’s actually a pretty nice experience and it’s been consistently a nice experience for well over a decade. All the crap YouTube pull mostly affects people who use it not logged in. Also install sponsor blocker.

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    4 days ago

    I’m glad I blocked that shit. If you ever try to IP block YouTube get ready to wack-a-mole. YouTube/google have IP after IP after IP of backup addresses and ways around you. Like the worse sales man you ever met…try to get him out the front door and suddenly he’s under the couch suggesting scratch free flooring or furniture feet that really protect your floors. Its annoying as heck.

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    4 days ago

    As someone who is constantly on YouTube and has been since the pre-Google era, their algorithm is shit now. It keeps giving me the same crap over and over and even though I click Not Interested, I continue to get things I don’t want to see. WTF

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      4 days ago

      As someone who is constantly on YouTube and has been since the pre-Google era,

      Finally, someone else who remembers the singular year that Youtube existed independently

    • 𝚝𝚛𝚔@aussie.zone
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      “Shorts” and “Games” are like herpes. No matter how many times you try to get rid of them, they just keep appearing.

      I do not want short form video, nor do I want to participate in “gaming” that is just poker machines reskinned as a “game” to take your money.

      The “not interested” button, it does nothing!

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        The “not interested” button, it does nothing!

        When combined with “don’t recommend channel” and removing videos from your watch history, it works for content. Unless you actually partake in related content. For example: If you watch political content, you will regularly get recommended stuff opposite to what you like, regardless of many times you click “not interested”.


        Although it should be mentioned that “not interested” does literally nothing when it comes to not seeing shorts in general, for that you need an extension, app or ublock filter that let you hide them.

    • StereoCode@lemmy.world
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      Yup. I’ve built a system where I tell it every video “not interested” after searching 1 topic. It literally doesn’t give two shits about all the subs I have with content I’m actually interested in. It’s like “oh shit you watched that one popular video, time to fill your entire feed with ADHD shorts and slop bullshit. We’re just going to ignore your historical data completely”

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        I’ve definitely noticed this, you watch one or two videos that are from a popular genre, and all of a sudden that’s half your recommendations. I’ve found the “not interested” option does work though.

        They do have a lot of viewing history to work with though.

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          That happens when you are subscribed too, it seems to heavily prefer showing you content (even from channels you are subscribed to) that matches the last few videos you watched.

    • ViperActual@sh.itjust.works
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      YouTube has a subscriptions feed that shows videos only from channels you follow.

      I’ve found that turning the watch history off results in more accurate and relevant recommended videos from videos you watch from your subscribed channels.

      When the recommended videos suddenly go off kilter, it’s telling that the video you’re watching is somehow related to the weird side of YouTube.

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      4 days ago

      The only new things it recommends is alt right stuff or closely related alt right. I’m good with getting the same recommendations…

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    4 days ago

    Disney also owned April’s top streaming title, Grey’s Anatomy, which notched 3.9 billion viewing minutes and benefited from its multichannel and multiplatform availability.

    WTF how are so many people still watching this show agter 20+ years? I honestly find this pretty shocking.

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      well, even if every person on earth watched it, theres hundreds of thousands of new people being born every day who havent. thats not even counting rewatchers

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      4 days ago

      Because merideth Grey is HER. Girl can deliver 20 ccs of hopes and dreams directly to our hearts and souls.

      Rip my fantasies for Cristina yang comeback tho.

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    I do wonder where Twitch would appear on this chart. Is it wayyyyyy under? Or does it not count as “TV”?

    I don’t view YouTube as competing with Disney or Netflix. It does compete in a “only so much time in the day” sense, but then there are a lot of things to look at.

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    4 days ago

    Interesting chart. Note that this is eyeballs, not profits or subscriber numbers. YouTube is free. Most all of the other services are paid, even when subscribing with ads.

    Also there’s no WBD channel, so this is lumping all channels by conglomerate ownership. It would be interesting to see this by channel. Hulu viewership is being lumped in with Disney, I assume. Tubi and Pluto bolstering WBD and Paramount numbers.

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      A free user viewing an ad is profitable though, so I would say that’s what the other streaming services get wrong, there is no free option even though their lowest option usually has ads m.

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        I would probably pay for Youtube if they stopped sabotaging their own platform and making it worse (e.g. adding shorts, releasing those horrible Rewind videos, preventing playlists with “content made for kids” (e.g. every music video of a song from some Disney movie), mixing in unrelated content into the search results,…).

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          4 days ago

          While I agree, in terms of actual streaming performance and the player, you tube hasn’t made that worse yet and I hope they never do.

          YouTube is very impressive from a technical perspective, regardless of the user experience.

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    What are people even watching on Disney all day? I assume it’s just a constant stream of cartoons for toddlers?

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      4 days ago

      The chart isn’t about streaming services, but companies. So this is covering everything that is owned by Disney, which includes broadcast and cable channels in addition to Disney+, and probably Hulu and maybe even other things that I’m not even aware of.

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      Conversely what is there to watch on YouTube? I mean I obviously have seen video on you tube of one kind or another, but it’s never been a place to go to watch a TV show or movie.

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        Almost anything you could want to watch is on yt in some form or another. Or listen to, it seems like every song ever made is on it too.

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          Most of what I would want to watch is definitely not on youtube. Although most of what I want to watch that is on YouTube is not on a pay channel. They seem apples to oranges to me, which is what I was driving at.

          I wonder if they count listening to music with still image as “watching”.

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            I find it hard to believe most of what you watch can’t be found on yt in some way. Unless it’s non english rare tv shows or something.

            I assume any .mp4 is something watched, so music videos would count.

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        YouTube is basically where all the science and engineering content has moved to. How it’s made, megafactories, air crash investigation, if you enjoyed that type of content, it’s now on YouTube.

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          Pretty much all travel content that is not people cosplaying as rich people is also on there. And for those who prefer something more varied than the traditional sports and don’t have the patience for live streams on Twitch pretty much all the edited gaming related content is on Youtube too. And of course the other documentary/educational topics besides science and engineering like mathematics, geography, history,…

      • CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee
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        I watch a ton of automotive centric channels, hobbyist electronics/PC/home automation/3D printing channels and a few weird niche ones like drain cleaning and dashcams, stuff you would never see (or has never been viable) on TV at least without a bunch of product placement and manufactured drama.

        For TV and movies I have my own media server and I just download the stuff I, or friends and family, want to watch but I think the experience, content, and presentation is quite different than what you find on Youtube. They fill different roles for me personally as one is pure entertainment while the other is a mix of educational and entertainment in typically shorter formats.

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          I am not sure why I got downvoted: your use case is exactly what I was thinking. And the other person who responded to me as well: you tube is watched a lot, but the content is largely like apples to oranges compared to say HBO or even Tubi.

          • CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee
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            It may be the phrasing in your original comment. It sounds like you’re questioning why anyone would watch videos on YouTube rather than questioning why YouTube is lumped in with traditional streaming service rankings.

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            Perhaps your comment wasn’t clear. People probably saw your first sentence and clicked the down-arrow. There are tons of great videos to watch on YT obviously, in nearly any facet of life you can think of. I watch many things that would bore others, but that’s part of the deep. rich sea of content that YT has.

            Do I go there to watch network-style shows and movies. Hell no. But I don’t frequent Disney, either.

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      4 days ago

      And sports:

      Disney’s 0.2 point gain over March was partly driven by cross-network coverage of the NFL Draft, the NCAA Women’s Basketball Championship and the first round of the NBA Playoffs.

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      That’s what I would guess. There’s not nearly enough content to keep you there otherwise, although the National Geographic shows help.