“I think it’s really scary this is going on,” said Nicole Micheroni. “I think it says they’re not being careful.”
When Massachusetts resident Nicole Micheroni received an email on Friday from the federal government telling her to leave the country, she was baffled.
“At first I thought it was for a client, but I looked really closely and the only name on the email was mine,” said Micheroni. “So it said my parole status had been terminated and I should leave the country within seven days.”
But the 40-year-old is a U.S. citizen, born in Newton and raised in Sharon.
Sure sounds like Anyone who isn’t MAGA should buy a gun and start training with it. Civil war is on its way.
Liberals with guns is a good resource.
Anyone considering arming themselves should be trained.
As far as civil war goes, we still have our boxes of Liberty and there are four of them. The order is important.
#Soap Box
#Ballot Box
#Jury Box
#Ammo Box
The result of any form of armed coup will always be decided by the military. You’ll have to see how deep the administration can sink its claws there before something happens.
I half expect there will be a false flag attack on the 18th or 19th. They’ll use it to shut down protests using martial law and kick off the insurrection act on the 20th.
And there it is. Combine this “accident” with the Death Master List and you have a recipe for “accidentally” ruining people’s lives who are retired or disabled. We know how this administration handles mistakes now as well.
What does a person who is declared dead but indeed still alive do when this happens and they lose income, housing, and medical insurance? Asking for a very terrified friend…
Administration “mistakenly” flags you as dead. FBI does a “stop and frisk”: you present your ID. That person is dead, claiming to be them is fraud. You have no citizenship papers, so you can be deported on the accusation of fraud, sans due process. At the destination, you can call for habeas corpus, if relevant in that jurisdiction.
Don’t expect the administration to “facilitate” your return in any meaningful way.
Or you get sent to the concentration camp in el Salvador
If you’re dead you cannot commit a crime because you do not exist. if you don’t exist, no crime could be committed and any evidence that is found otherwise was planted because again, you’re dead, you don’t exist.
don’t show up to court, don’t pay taxes, you are an apparition and do not follow the laws of the mortal realm.
use this information however you like.
Legally dead people can commit crimes. They’ll try you as a “John Doe”
Conversely, even if you kill someone who was legally marked as dead, you still murdered someone who cannot be identified, you murdered a “John Doe”
Just because you don’t legally exist, doesn’t mean people suddenly can’t see you.
You don’t seem to understand how power works.
I think I understand it more than you. what power do they have over you? You’re “dead”, you don’t exist.
walk into target, walk out with what you want. if they apprehend you. spit on them. fight them. break their fingers and legs. piss on them. shit your pants. when they cover your mouth, vomit. kick, scream, maim, raise hell. become ungovernable, traumatize them so much they just want to leave you alone.
they put you in a cell, set the bedding on fire, clog the toilet, rip off the sink plumbing, use the broken bed frame to bash a hole in the glass windows, in the wall. smear your shit all over the door, scream every hour like a madman.
when there’s no more room in hell, the dead shall walk the earth.
This cannot be a serious comment.
y’all can act civil when they strip you of your rights. nobody stopping you from bitching out.
me? I’m going to make sure they regret it, and the more of us that do it the less likely it will happen.
want to know a secret? LAPD avoid neighborhoods with elevated drug crime. know why? because the people there are unpredictable and almost ungovernable.
now imagine if everyone who was “walking dead” acted that way. do you think they’ll detain you and risk having an “outbreak” on their hands?
hell no. they would have to open fire on a crowd of hundreds, and there’s no way that won’t make the news.
become ungovernable is more than words, it demands action.
if they apprehend you. spit on them. fight them.
Bang.
Ok, now you’re actually dead.
they would never shoot me, I’m too white.
Are you fucking stupid? This is how you get shot. You aren’t special, you aren’t powerful, you’re just going to get your shit wrecked.
and you think that someone that’s going to do the above is going to just get shot?
you’re dead, and dead people don’t commit crimes.
Are you brain dead?
are you a piece of shit?
Good luck accessing your bank account though
lol. you think dead people need to pay?
I’ll say it again.
dead people don’t commit crimes.
take what you need. take what you want. force the government to acknowledge you’re dead or they made a mistake.
someone trying to apprehend you? break their arms. dead people don’t commit crimes so their arms broke themselves.
if this administration wants to play petty I’ll play back petty like it’s a fucking art form.
I dunno buddy, if anyone could still commit crimes even while dead I bet it’s trump
i saw someone filming supposed ICE agents on the train the other day. we need networks that identify these people and blast their faces to the public. the public needs to be a vigilante mob. the only way we put this in check is to turn the guns on them instead of us being the hunted.
There needs to be a crowd-sourced app to track ICE, like Waze with media upload. And a slingshot with velcro-covered AirTags to keep a further eye on them.
It’s fucking crazy how one sided the surveillance state is. The old justification is that it is exonerate the innocent and catch the guilty in truth it is usually to catch whoever the fuck they don’t like and also will delete anything that might remotely incriminate them or release it only after their guys are acquitted as a giant fuck you (look up the murder of Daniel Shaver).
It wasn’t always so one sided. Jane Jacobs wrote about the power and effect of local community surveillance over the streets in her book The Death and Life of Great American Cities. When we zone for and build mixed use streets with enough density and points of interest to ensure foot traffic at all points in the day from a variety of ordinary people, with a healthy percentage of them being established locals, then it’s much easier for good samaritans to notice when something goes wrong (like a kidnapping attempt) and intervene. Privacy used to be a lot easier to achieve too when you needed it.
We have the technology to make 1984 a reality. And we’re slowly making our way to actually implementing it. Once the apparatus is in place it is immovable.
yeah. we all know it’s bullshit but it’s up to us to change it. the dems aren’t going to solve this. the republicans aren’t going to solve this. a corporation isn’t going to solve this.
we really need to stop saying “they” and start saying “we”.
#icecreamtruck on RedNote has been pretty good at flagging ICE agents.
Someone needs to film them, blast their faces to the public, then hunt them and kill them (or someone from their family). Just like cartels do to people.
unfortunately, we are at war, and the future of humanity demands that we fight back. there’s no just way to win, but it is self defense at this point.
She should hire (trustworthy) security guards willing to kill. Doge Boys will be coming for her, simply because Trump’s deranged word is law.
Those Doge Pukes should have been gunned down in the first government lobby they tried to storm. At that point, they had all the authority of pirates, and were operating totally illegally. Now they’ve been “authorized.”
Security guards are insanely expensive.
Because everyday people totally have the money for armed security guards who are willing to shoot Cops for you? Where does one hire these “trustworthy” people?
People who want to form Rainbow Panthers, especially persecuted minorities. They just need food on the table, munitions, and some sort of goal. Breaking ICE who assault schoolchildren and other innocents would certainly be a goal.
Also, the lady is an attorney. She probably has some savings, connections, and a willingness to go pro bono for people who need an public defender against the Trump Regime. The real roadblock is for people to accept that the ‘norms’ are dead, and to act accordingly. Considering we have a rapist of a president who intends to butcher Americans, I don’t think militias against ICE are a stretch.
An attorney is not rich, they make more money than average at around $90-120k a year but not enough to hire 2-4 extra professionals to follow them around plus hazard pay.
That changes when militias are formed. Mutual aid is about people supporting each other - be it in the courtroom, battlefield, kitchen, or classroom. Neighborhoods filled with ICE Breakers, would mean that this lady and others wouldn’t need more than two guards. An potential victim can call for help, while the guards delay ICE. Just set up checkpoints that inspect suspicious vehicles.
Seriously. This is a civil war brewing, and ordinary people can become a state unto themselves if they are willing to create their own laws. Trump doesn’t believe in any law but that which emanates from his asshole, so why should anyone obey?
Mutual aid works well as an exchange of small favors, goods, and monetary assistance. Your alternator breaks down and you have no money. 10 people chip in to help pay for the part. Someone who knows cars donates their time to install it. That’s how mutual aid works in the real world.
Something like the Black Panthers existed in a very specific historical circumstance. They existed in a handful of dense black neighborhoods with deep social roots going back generations. It doesn’t really translate to the way most people in the US live, in low density sururban sprawl.
If ICE knocks on your door, there isn’t going to be time to call for aid. And setting up checkpoints on roads? You’re living in a fantasy world.
Odds are, you will sound like a British loyalist a century from now, who thought things would never change in their British colony. We live in a “fantasy world”, where a mad king is sending the innocent to die in El Salvador without reason nor justice.
The only question is at what point people discard the things that they lived by. Common sense, the rules, whom they believed in, and more.
That’s different from “should hire some bodyguards”
Idk, that’s a lot of vowels in her last name and we are returning to 1939 fascism. I wish I was joking. Ice / Homeland security is basically the Gestapo now.
Ice / Homeland security is basically the Gestapo now.
It always has been for literally millions of people.
they’ve been unjust for quite a while now, but no, they just recently became the gestapo and they were not before.
raiding innocent people’s homes, people whose legal status isn’t in question… and sending them to fucking El Salvador mega prisons where they never release prisoners… life/death sentences for nothing other than being hispanic is basically the gestapo, and they were not doing that before….
separating children from parents and putting them in cages was bad… but not gestapo bad….
Do you want a list of lawful US residents imprisoned and tortured in Gitmo who have been determined to have no ties to terrorism? The US has been Nazi-adjacent from the time nobody batted an eye about the “Dept of Homeland security” and “the Patriot Act.”
all 558 of them? yes, some aspects of the government have been able to act in nazi adjacent ways for a while now… of course that’s been a fight and most of the gitmo prisoners were freed….
what’s happening now is a completely different scale and acting like “it always has been” is intellectually lazy, weak, and cowardly….
some in the gov have done nazi like things is a lot different than, then entire government is being replaced with nazis and collaborators in a few months and wide scale ethnic cleansing has begun….
If you think nobody complained about the Patriot Act, you weren’t paying attention.
Cool, so Americans have had a quarter-decade of constant and unrelenting evidence that complaining is roughly as effective as doing nothing.
Oh heavens, it’s been much more than a quarter decade. Why else was Obama’s campaign so effective? It was pitched as if our protests had actually worked and somebody up top was finally listening.
"Micheroni says she won’t be reaching out to Homeland Security, and figures this is an administrative error.
She hopes nothing more comes of it."
I’m surprised she’s being so sedate about this, I’d get it in front of a judge immediately to establish a paper trail.
It would also be good to find out who else they are doing this to.
She’s a lawyer she knows her rights.
If they come for her it will be fully documented and she can actually do something.
She’ll be kidnapped and sent to El Salvador before she can do anything. There is no law.
That only happens to people who have nobody to speak for them, that’s why immigrants are so vulnerable.
She’ll have armies of lawyers covering her.
This is Rosa Parks for white lawyers who want to feel like they’re doing something, good on her.
Nah, dude. The president has directly attacked law firms that have opposed him with bills of attainder via EOs. The president has directly, flagrantly, and openly flaunted court orders. The DOJ initially said deporting Kilmar was an accident; today, Miller clarified it was not an accident at all. They shouldn’t have been able to put a man in prison indefinitely without due process, but they have. They shouldn’t be able to lie to and ignore the courts, but they are. I am begging you to understand that the rules no longer apply, we are in a dictatorship and nobody is coming to save us. We must save ourselves.
That’s money.
When you threaten a lawyers actual freedom, that’s when shit gets really real.
No. Lawyers are lower case m money. They work for the upper case M money, which is who the Trump administration is bowing to. They aren’t worried about lower case money, especially because the courts have shown themselves to be utterly toothless. I’m telling you, the administration is already chilling lawyers by targeting firms directly with EOs, and it’s working. The lawyers are not going to save us. They’re going to be standing on the sidelines with the judges yelling “but you can’t do that, the rules say so!” As the Trump administration goes ahead and does it. I know because that’s what happening right now.
She’s offering them the “benefit of the doubt,” to let them correct their error. Unfortunately, the general response to mistakes is to double down on their stupidity.
I mean, realistically what are her options?
Lawsuit.
What would the legal basis of the lawsuit be? What relief would she be seeking?
They are threatening a US citizen with deportation. At a minimum, she should be suing to vacate the deportation order.
Is there a deportation order? If she has that, she should show it. AFAIK she just has an email now.
The idea would be to block it before it reaches the point of a deportation order.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-wants-deport-some-us-citizens-el-salvador-2025-04-14/
Yeah, when I read that bit I thought that’s quite unlike what usually someone who is an expert in this exact field would do
Considering they already have accidentally sent somebody to an El Salvador torture prison and are ignoring a court order to even attempt to bring them back… Yeah she should really be raising hell over this.
“Accidentally”
Indifferently.
Maleficence.
55% people do be like that
As we’ve seen, it doesn’t matter if it’s an accident.
An accident, or a test?
Lol, they’re sending in en masse.
I’ll bet a straight white cisgender man also got it.
I mean, have you seen their OPSEC? They sent classified materials to some journalist 🤣
Almost certainly an accident. These guys are completely incompetent.
But, that doesn’t mean they won’t use it as an opportunity. If nobody pushes back, they’ll just keep stumbling forward.
As an outsider looking in, everything this regime does is testing the waters to see if they can get away with that, and if so how much further can they push it.
If someone doesn’t actually take real action to stop it soon, it may become unstoppable.
If someone doesn’t actually take real action to stop it soon, it may become unstoppable.
It always falls to this nebulous someone to do anything.
Then let it be you. Be that someone.
There has to be a tipping point, when so many people turn at once, that the authorities cant control it, and that emboldens many more to join the cause. That’s how revolts happen.
I’m not American, my friend.
I am torn between “This kind of amateur-hour bullshit is why they will not succeed. If you’re going to be a properly tyrannical government you have to have your paperwork in order and your threats have to be credible threats, not just random bullshit with every email you can find put into ‘BCC’” on one hand, and on the other hand “No one says she won’t get her door kicked down and whisked away even though she didn’t do anything wrong at all, just because she’s one of the class of people who’s historically been exempt from it. They definitely will start doing that to citizens at some point, it’s just up in the air how soon it will start and how much resistance there will be.”
Unfortunately, the incompetence doesn’t matter when they act on it and no one is willing to hold them accountable.
Like recently how they admittedly deported someone they weren’t allowed to and even the supreme court unanimously ruled against the administration, but the administration just shrugged and ignored it, claiming that the court has no authority over what they consider now to be a sovereign El Savador issue.
So if they ship off an inconvenient citizen to El Salvador, they claim it’s not their problem because it already happened…
Purposeful incompetence wins.
My wealthy husband didn’t feel like turning in documentation during our divorce, I certainly didn’t have the resources to stop him.
That’s how the legal system has been working. Look at fucking Oklahoma. Freedom of Information Act has been optional, our Open Meetings and Records acts have been optional.
The US’s court system has been being targeted for years. We are fucked.
If you live in the US, you are already dead. Time to act like it. Stay armed. If thugs with badges try to kidnap you, they are executing your death sentence, and it is time to fight like the rabid cornered badgers that we are. Take as many of the fascists as you can with you. Do not go quietly into that night.
How can you stay armed if you’re already dead? Why would thugs execute a death sentence against someone who is already dead? Your metaphors need work.
The Japanese soldiers on Iwo Jima knew they’d never win, so their objective became to kill at least 10 enemy soldiers before they die themselves.
If you’re going to go, take as many with you as possible.
Exactly. Out-fucking-standing answer, Marine!
Lmao 35% of the country loves this shit, 15% are on the fence whether it’s bad or not, and 50% dislike it but a lot of those don’t dislike it enough to actually do anything about it.
the incompetence isn’t that they made a “clerical” error. it’s that they’re acting like they’re evil geniuses, and really, they’re not. They’re like thugs, sticking up a donut shop getting nabbed because they started arguing about whether they should steal the bear claws or the lemon filled.
The only reason they get away with it is their boy vinny runs the courts.
Guarantee you that the incompetence is on purpose. It wasn’t a genocide, it was a few clerical errors, some bad AI, and a couple of lines of bad code from a junior dev. Just a big ol’ whoopsie where everyone but the Nazis died.
Hanlon’s razor says just the opposite.
Sure, they’re not worried about making mistakes because nobody’s holding them to account. But, these people have proven time and time again that they’re not competent.
They’ve turned Hanlon’s Razor into a sword. Weaponized incompetence to maximize plausible deniability.
Why would they care about plausible deniability? You only need that when you might be held responsible for your actions.
When it’s not working, it’s working.
They’re doing tyranny by testing the fences. Unlike the raptors in Jurassic Park, though, they have yet to find a spot that’s properly electrified.
Deinonychuses*
Gezundheit
looks like doge already replaced dhs with ai
Tihi.
