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Prosecutors highlighted “about $10,000 — $8,000 in U.S. dollars and then $2,000 in foreign currency that was found on his person,” CNN correspondent Danny Freeman said following the court hearing.
“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.
After prosecutors made the claims, Mangione said he would like to “correct two things.”
“I don’t know where any of that money came from — I’m not sure if it was planted. And also, that bag was waterproof, so I don’t know about criminal sophistication,” the suspect said in a statement that suggested police framed him.
I am not sure prosecution can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he’s the guy. Some of this evidence seems flimsy or circumstantial, but I don’t know the whole picture.
What if you find shooter’s backpack ditched in park with jacket, gun, silencer, and fake ID used at hostel, but say it only had a jacket and monopoly money. And say that the guy probably left the state on a bus. Now you can pretty much do anything you want with any plausible-looking guy in the country you want.
I’m just asking questions! Also, most of the bags and purses you see for sale these days have a “faraday” phone bag or pocket in them, no level of sophistication required.
Also since this was a murder or an upper echelon CEO and not some joe schmoe, you could use some illegal/unknown methods to track him down and then plant the evidence on the right guy because you don’t want to, or can’t, give up the methods you used to find him.
My Christmas cookies from Costco come in a Faraday Cage… I’m so criminal right now!
The more they keep fuxking with the facts, the more this makes sense.
I just hope tomorrow a video alibi comes out of him jerking off on camera in Philly at 7am that Wednesday
The whole character will crumble and the working class will see what they really do to us.
Jerking off in front of a street camera at 7am on a Wednesday does sound like a Philly activity.
“The Gang Cranks One Out”
“The gang executes a CEO”
Remind me to backdate an OnlyFans broadcast as an alaby for my next crime. This is great, thanks
About 10,000 -8,000 dollars??? If only that was something that could easily be counted. Why do we need to speculate everything. Ffs
That’s not what it meant, albeit it was worded dumb. It meant $10K total, with 8000 being USD and 2000 being foreign currency.
Authorities are desperately trying to make an example of someone, anyone with a motive. Turns out more than half the country has one.
the way they portray him and the tone of the whole thing is just so fucking slimy
“Do you realize how much money the wealthy are losing right now?”
“OMG how could a person born into wealth that is clearly incredibly intelligent, ever think about doing something like this? There are better ways to slowly let millions of people die over denied coverage and ignore it. How could he.”
They can’t have us realize its that easy to take our country back from the corporations that own it or their entire power structure and caste society comes crashing down.
They’re now also blaming Among Us for training him into an assassin, apparently.
A game with “500+ M downloads” on google play, plus like a dozen other platforms it’s on.
If 0.001% of among us players became CEO assassins, I don’t think we’d have any CEOs left.
smh the sus guy strikes again, this time out of retirement
LOL “quick, do the ‘it was video games!’ distraction “
So thin and weak
Of this is true… Damn. Two thoughts come to mind when reading this.
- Rockstar Games has done so little with GTA for such a long time it is no longer the default ‘turn kids into criminals’-simulator.
- I am fucking old.
If you dont remember shooting lines of Elvis impersonators with an above head view and bullets that projectiles slowly across the screen, you’re not that old
Remember when Jack Thompson was relevant? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
All those kids that started playing GTA too young are now grown and taking it out on society because they don’t have a new GTA to work through their urges in.
I bet he knows the hacker 4chan too
Dont post pictures of headliness. Post links to the articles.
I mean those weren’t screenshots of headlines, they were a significant portion of the articles. At the time though it was just coming from CNN’s live coverage page, which I tried to link to above
The reason you need to give links isn’t because its not showing all the text. Its to prevent misinformation and to let people who are blind be able to read the article.
Sure, agreed, I posted screenshots on the fly as I saw the info. That being said is it was a “live feed” page and information was being changed on the fly with a single URL
UnitedHealth Group has lost $45 billion in value since CEO Killing
“Do you realize how much the wealthy are losing right now?”
Clearly, not nearly enough.
“Hey! This guy doesn’t worship the Dollar! Slander him!”
They can call us inhumane but they’re the ones who got us thinking of human lives in dollar values
This whole thing is sooo fucking smelly. So, so very smelly
That’s the fastest way to get your courthouse blown up
Turns out more than half the country has one.
Turns out your new president kinda wants to put that half in shackles, too.
Everyone should change their names on all their social medias to Luigi Mangione
Shut about about should and just fucking do it, Luigi Mangione.
Sincerely,
Luigi MangioneEveryone should walk around with Luigi Mangione face masks.
They’ll find 12 of the whitest old women to ever exist and hammer this guy, I can just feel it. The justice system exists for the rich and whoever did this fucked with one of their own.
My Nostradamus prediction of the day is that you are right. They will all miraculously had a great time with the private healthcare syndicates.
I’m the one who killed the dude actually. Remember? You were there. ;)
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Secret assassin of my heart, baby.
Ass assassin
❤️
I broke the dam.
Ryan started the fire.
No, I’m Luigi.
No, I’m Luigi!
No itsa me, Luigi.
Ah shaddap you face.
Wassa matta you?
I’m that baby daddy
It-a-was-a-me, Mario!
Number one!
Wahhooooooooo
Go Weegee! Go Weegee! Oh yeah! Oh yeah!
No, this is Patrick.
Wait
I mean I am Spartacus
Wait
And my axe!
hold on
Hodor hodor hodor
Yarp
I’m Batman?
Hodor? Hodor? Hold-uhdoor?
They don’t need to plant money. The physical evidence is more than enough.
They just want to make it look like he’s a flight risk so he is held without bail.
Nobody is going to give him bail. Murder charge.
What? People being charged with murder get bail all the time.
Here’s two examples, because I was searching for the second and misremembered his last name as “Perry” instead of “Penny”, but conveniently there was another person subjected to a murder charge who also had a bail set.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/02/us/austin-blm-protest-shooting-indictment/index.html
Those aren’t charges of Murder 1.
Neither is the charge for Mangione.
The charges haven’t been brought as of yet from NY. The paperwork is not done.
What, do you think the DA doesn’t know what charges they’ll file? Or that the judge in PA is making his judgment on bail based not on stated intentions, but charges that no one has even mentioned?
Seems pretty circumstantial to me so far.
They’ve got DNA, fingerprints and probably the gun. I wouldn’t call that circumstantial
That’s all circumstantial evidence.
But then again, circumstantial evidence simply means “not eyewitness evidence”. It does not mean “unreliable evidence”, and people are convicted all the time based on circumstantial evidence.
There were people on the street. He isn’t the first person found guilty and wearing a mask.
Sure, it’s possible someone present at the murder could identify him. But it’s not necessary. He wouldn’t be the first person found guilty based on video footage.
Sure, but the prosecution will probably use both.
That’s what they said… Do you believe everytbing government and media tells you now?
Well I don’t believe everything is a conspiracy
Ohh will pulling this old reliable…
Politics and accusations of conspiracy isnhow conversation is generally derailed online haja
Aimt it amazing how this guy gets caught with a full evidence package for prosecution?
Where is the body camera footage of the arrest?
Hmmm
In due course.
Trust the process 🤡
Was that the rally cry at Uvalde, too? How anyone can rust the fucking cops after that display is beyond me.
A LOT of yesterday’s arrest is REALLY suspicious. Dude who could easily have fled the country (for a lot of reasons) and had done such a great job of covering his tracks is sitting in a mickey d’s with his murder weapon and a manifesto.
But… a lot of his social media history (which is not impossible to fake but…) kind of suggests he was very mentally unwell. Which… uh doy? And he is mostly focused on the money (super easy to plant) and the “faraday bag”.
As for the faraday bag? A LOT of dry bags (an internal bag you put electronics and valuables into if you are going to hike in the rain or go rafting/boating) have a metal mesh. Because they need to withstand abrasians either from being near other gear (you would be shocked how much jagged metal is in a backpack when you go on a proper alpine overnight) or just being able to survive falling overboard and bouncing on the end of a rope in rapids. And guess what a metal mesh does?
So he presumably got a dry bag of some form to stash his personal shit in while he stashed the second backpack. And I know plenty of hikers and climbers who learn the fun way that the phone they carried “in case someone needs to get a hold of me” had zero signal the entire time it was protected from the rain.
Why would someone this meticulous keep the gun that’s could have been ditched? Write out a memefesto like two hours before being caught? Wear the same clothes that could’ve also been directed or burned? This feels like a patsy.
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Everyone keeps calling him meticulous and I’m just curious what you found meticulous about it.
The way he fired off those shots was practiced.
His getaway sure was and dropping a bag off that had monopoly money seems more well thought out than “have gun and no change clothes”
I suppose if you think running across the street, riding an e-bike for awhile, and then ditching it in a park is meticulous then we just don’t share a definition of meticulous.
The getaway might not have been as meticulous as the plan leading up to the getaway.
I still wonder if that was actual monopoly money or if they were just talking about Canadian dollars.
Fall guy, planted by the mob to give the NYPD credit that they aren’t just a bunch of guys with big bellies keystone copping around, probably they have a deal with a mob boss to not bust their child exploitation ring if they have them some dude who can sit in prison
Because, as many of us pointed out, he was never some super meticulous hitman. He exhibited basic knowledge of firearms and got his stalker on like the ceo what got got was a pretty girl who asked to borrow a pencil that one time in biology class. The rest was taking a bus and wearing a face mask most of the time. It was inevitable that he would be caught unless he fled the country.
Mostly this just highlighted how incompetent cops are. And… might be used to further efforts to just use computer vision and rudimentary “AI” to process security camera footage in the future.
As for why he would keep his gun on him? The manifesto kind of says it all (and, to my knowledge, Luigi has not disputed THAT aspect of it). He wanted to get caught. Probably after making it clear he could have escaped if he wanted to (because getting on a flight out of the US would have been trivial).
To be clear. If he were to have disputed the gun and manifesto I would VERY rapidly be on the side of "cops are planting shit yet again’. But the fact that he hasn’t (to my knowledge) while disputing other potentially planted or misinterpreted evidence puts the kibosh on that.
If he wanted to get caught, why would he say the evidence was planted?
He did not say “the” evidence was planted. He said “that” evidence was planted. As in a subset.
And, as I pointed out above, said evidence makes sense. The “faraday bag” is just an intentional misinterpretation. As for the foreign currency? People very much underestimate how much loose cash cops have due to civil forfeiture and it is a really easy way to argue that someone is a flight risk and should not be granted bail.
If he wanted to be caught he could’ve turned himself in though, make it big and public if he wanted that attention.
If he sees himself as a Robin Hood-type, it stands to reason that he’d see that someone gets the reward for submitting the tip when he got caught. A low-wage McDonald’s worker makes sense given what’s alleged about his world views.
Damn. Another Adjustment made, may he never stop Adjusting.
But… a lot of his social media history (which is not impossible to fake but…) kind of suggests he was very mentally unwell.
What are you referring to here? I’m not scouring the internet for all the information I can find but everything I’ve seen so far paints the picture of a perfectly sane person who was fed up with a broken system. I see similar sentiments all over the internet literally every day.
Well he also played this game where you act as an assassin called Among Us…
Is there a decent thread on the facts somewhere? I am still trying to wrap my head around how they connected the subject of the shooting video to the subject of the crime stoppers picture. There are so many diffs it’s like a Mad Magazine bit.
Welcome to the US justice system, where the rules are made up and the facts don’t matter.
You know the funny thing about these “ghost guns” is they are untraceable so you don’t know where they came from. The best way to pin them to someone is to “pin” them to that person. This can be through forensics or proximity. In this case the suspect just happens to have a gun whose origins are unknown. Very convenient.
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Wait, people actually do that on accident? They aren’t just making sure their boss can’t call them?
Where is the body camera footage?
Until I see it, all of this shit fake news.
Luigi didn’t do shit. They are just trying to pin it on any Italian guy that fits their narrative
Sure he hates health insurance parasites so does 99% of US.
It ain’t a crime!
he hates health insurance parasites so does 99% of US.
That’s a very conservative estimate.
Statistically the 1% are benefiting from the insurance parasites.
Somebody got to own all them shares
Considerably less than that.
“The 1%” is, ironically, a way to protect the elites and keep us divided amongst ourselves. But that ignores the wealth inequality issues and how many people aren’t even “middle class”.
In plenty of states? Making low six figures is already enough to put you as a “one percenter” for your demographic. Especially if you have a partner who makes a similar amount of money. And that scales with cost of living. A couple years ago (during the pandemic) I saw a really good breakdown that basically showed “if you can afford to live on your own, you are probably at least a top 5% earner”
And those people are just as vulnerable to an illness that insurance doesn’t cover.
No. The people benefiting aren’t even the “1%”. It is a ridiculously small percentage of the population.
My wife and I live on my income (not amazingly but we make do in a suburban part of a lower aide of middle income state) and I’m less than half the 5% threshold for the lowest state.
Please don’t say fake news. You sound like a far right nutjob. We are better than that.
You can call out news as being fake without being right wing buddo. All mainstream media owned by Sinclair is fake. Anything in between has a narrative they’re trying to achieve. If it ain’t journalism, it’s a dead opinion.
95% of what is out is fake news… You can call it what you want.
Also this ain’t about politics. Both sides use the same tactic lol
Saying Mangione is a hero implies you’re convinced he’s the killer. Not great…
the original scene in the Sopranos is about Christopher Columbus, so…
They definitely put way more effort into this shooting than any of the others that happened on the same day. Obviously the police are looking for a scapegoat
The murdered was sloppy though. The best way to murder someone and get away with it is to get elected POTUS. or be the son of a POTUS. Don’t go around committing crimes if you’re a normal citizen, silly.
He hasn’t said he didn’t do it, at least that we have heard. He’s just saying that a lot of the evidence is incorrect. The money is a flight risk, so they can argue to hold without bail. The manifesto, if it’s a plant, is to make him look “crazy,” so people distance (haha, backfire). And the faraday nonsense is to suggest that an ankle monitor would be of no use, so also no bail.
It’s all about holding him at this point.
And it’s all evidence his lawyers can use in court.
If all the rumors are true that he is in a ton of pain because of a back injury, I’ll bet they go with not guilty by reason of insanity. Pain makes you crazy.
He just needs some therapy. ❤️
Would he end up institutionalized? Like, realistically, what would happen to him?
I’m sure they would send him to a few years in a medical facility. We will see if they want to make an example out of him. But I think that tactic would backfire
Denied due to pre-existing conditions…
Not really related but I find it funny that you need money to get bail, but if you have money to pay bail, then you are flight risk and don’t get the option.
Yeah, that’s a whole topic in itself lol. The justice system is not made for the people, it’s made to keep the people from overpowering the ruling class.
Are you suggesting that a simple faraday bag can neutralize an ankle monitor?
Im suggesting that they are suggesting. They don’t have to suggest reality, this is the justice system after all.
It can, insofar as it will make it beep due to lack of signal and will alert the authorities as to your last know position
His lawyer said there is no evidence he is the shooter.
Step 1 - Have an AI scrape social media looking for someone similar looking who has posted negative things about the insurance Industry.
Step 2 - sprinkle crack on them
Step 3 - ???
Step 4 - record breaking profits for health insurance corporations every year forever and ever and ever
People who know this shit have been through Mangione’s social media feeds.
https://shatterzone.substack.com/p/alleged-ceo-shooter-luigi-mangione
The guy likely did it. The guy’s social media history puts him right in that “potential mass shooter” territory, but one more radicalized by pain rather than the right-wing shitholes of the internet.
But the part no one’s talking about yet are the copycats to come. Because this guy got attention for it. Accolades even. That’s part of what mass shooters want. Attention. Accolades are a wet dream for them.
At least this will be better than when they were murdering children for the shock value.
So yeah, I think “Rich asshole murdered” will become more common. If only the richest asshole in whatever Podunk little town the mass shooter was from.
And yet, I can’t say that it will be a completely bad thing. If the mass shootings must happen, (and America apparently says they must) then I’d rather it be a rich asshole who bites it than a classroom full of grade schoolers.
A lot of people in this sub could be put in “potential killer” territory based on the comments made but that doesn’t mean they are/were
A lot of people in this sub just need a radicalization event.
Luigi was radicalized by pain.
A lot of people
in this subjust need a radicalization event.When you back someone into a corner, chances are sooner or later they’re going to fight back.
Are you saying that “Eat the Rich” has started?
It has, the copycats are coming.
It won’t be exactly targeted, but more rich assholes will be murked.
Killing one specific person and then fucking off does not, a mass-shooting, make.
No, but it’s the same sort of pattern that you see in mass shooters.
Disaffected young men. Educated, but with minimal meaningful job prospects. Little to no family, or no close ties.
The sort of young man who wouldn’t mind dying, or killing, for a cause, even if that cause is just gaining people’s attention.
In the US, those sorts of young men do all sorts of things, many live productive lives. But almost every single mass shooter is one of those young men. Luigi is one of those young men, That’s why the comparison is apt.
He just decided to kill a rich asshole instead of a bunch of randos. All because his particular radicalization was via pain instead of the usual right wing internet shitholes.
Disaffected young men. Educated, but with minimal meaningful job prospects. Little to no family, or no close ties.
It’s almost like society is getting more dangerous for everyone cause we’re letting young men become disaffected.
It’s their privilege that allows them to act out in a violent manner.
Howzat three letter paycheck? Or do you suck that short ripoff for your sole and a lying crock or righteousness?
Uhh, thank you but we have plenty of fresh towels.
Then why the fuck do you think this is being so regularly used by such regular travelers of space and time, newbie? LOL.
I’m pretty sure Step 3 is “get out of here”.
A Faraday cage (bag) is not sophisticated. WTF, one can build one from chicken wire.
“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.
Prosecutors, man. Acting like he had a fucking radio jammer or something.
Didn’t you know? Doing anything that interferes with corpos having full access to your profitable information means you’re a criminal.
Prosecutors, man.
Mfs think he Gene Hackman from Enemy of the State.
There have been plenty of articles in popular media recommending Faraday bags for electronic devices. I have them for credit cards and car keys. It’s definitely not evidence of criminal intent.
I found another suspect!
There are several of us.
Dozens even
Interfering with corporate profits! How dare you, filthy plebe!
Shit, any Subaru owner probably has an RFID bag for when they go car camping and don’t want to wake up to a dead battery.
Wait what, tell me more.
looks askance at Outback
$20 dollars can buy many peanuts.
The RF key fob very slowly drains the battery if you’re within 10-15 feet of the car.
All modern cars with key fobs react to the key fob, using up battery.
You blocking corporate, that’s illegal. They have the right to take all your information and sell it to the highest bidder
Right. Criminal sophistication is the tracking portal on your device, analyzing all of your information and the information of your contacts and turning into a robust identity infrastructure, from which B2B data buyers can can select a complete data profile which will allow them to make decisions about your banking costs, your employment eligibility, your healthcare options, and the quality of information you are able to access via the web. All while appearing as a cute step-counting app that gives lights up with a smiley face haptic when you reach your goal.
Just look at how americans react to chinese’s score system. Communist, evil, over stepping by the government… Walk into a car dealership and try to buy something. What is the first question asked? How will you finance? Let’s check your credit score.
The companies in the US just package the process better. Same tactic and outcomes. We have massive problems.
There is so much theft of cars happening because car manufacturers did fucking nothing to improve security. Now a guy with a laptop, and antenna, and radio software can clone your car keys and all they have to do is hang around enough to capture a few of the rolling code changes. They can do it from outside your house and through some obstructions too.
So yeah a Faraday cage of some sort for your car keys is just a good idea now. Guess that makes us all criminals.
Prosecutors are another cog in the wheel of the regime. They only care for one thing is slobbing up the pole.
I am sure this parasite thinks he is going to make a career off this prosecution.
Disgusting
He had a waterproof wallet lol so spy
From the article:
Although a host of eyewitness accounts and video camera footage recorded Mangione’s movements before and after Thompson was killed in New York City on Wednesday, police said they were unable to locate him until a McDonald’s employee identified the suspect at a Pennsylvania franchise nearly a week later.
They should have said “the suspect’s movements” or “the shooter’s movements”. Not “Mangione’s movements”. They are already presuming guilt by saying it was Mangione who was recorded. Newspapers used to be careful about doing this. I think they can be sued for defamation for this, can’t they?
Maybe Luigi can sue them with all the money people on GoFundMe are desperate to give him.
Was it an employee or a bystander/customer? I’m confused.
Fuck Chomsky.
Curious as to why you think this?
I’ve heard he’s a meany, but that’s all I know
They said with no support…
Are you the CEO of a news corporation, bud?
He took Russia’s side in their invasion of Ukraine, which I don’t agree with, but truth if truth wnd he accurately describes how the media sways public opinion without outright lying.
Can you back up that claim with a link?
I only read Chomsky saying:
- Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was a crime.
- The US + Britain have committed far worse atrocities in war (e.g. Iraq, Lebanon, Indochina) than Russia in Ukraine.
- It would be better to attempt de-escalation of the Russia-Ukraine war than to strengthen NATO and continue a proxy war with Russia.
I mean, by your own comment, those aren’t great things. 2 is a whataboutism and 3 is the same as giving concessions to the Nazis and lead to WWII. Concessions have already been given to Russia in regards to their previous invasions of Georgia and Crimea. Give an inch and they’ll take a mile.
Regardless of Chomsky’s stance on Russia and NATO though, he still describes media manipulation acutely. He just has a huge blind spot for when Russia is doing it
I don’t think it’s fair to say 2 is strictly whataboutism, because Chomsky has a founded fear that strengthening NATO as a military power through conflict escalation will lead to worse outcomes in the long run. That’s why it’s relevant to point out NATO war crimes.
As for 3, that’s a fair point, and I would press Chomsky to provide an option for de-escalation that doesn’t involve allowing Russia to keep any Ukrainian soil.
NATO has expanded significantly towards Russia since the SU fell. No nation would be fine with this. Imagine if China started a “defense agreement” with latin American countries. What do you think the US reaction would be to Mexico joining in? Or for a more real and historic example have a look at the Cuban missile crisis.
This does not justify Putins invasion, but comparing this to the appeasement politics towards Hitler doesn’t work, as Hitler wasn’t threatened by British and American troops stationed in Czechoslovakia or Austria.
For a bettet explanation i highly recommend watching some talks of John Mearsheimer, who forsaw a war in Eastern Europe as the result of the security architecture built by the US in the 90s and 2000s.
Sure, but I think you’d understand that I can’t just take pure speculation though. Could you please source your claim so I can consider what you’re saying when you say he “took Russia’s side”.
Would also be curious of the state he was in while saying that if true, as he’s nearly 100 years old at this point if I recall? Even our heroes get frail and wither, not necessarily representative of their true core positions.
It seems kinda grey because they’re not saying he committed a crime they are saying that he was in certain camera frames and the police were looking for him. If the police announced a name then the news would be reporting fact. The camera bit could be debatable I think. If they were speaking more about the actions of the crime they’d have to alledge, which they did alledge about his “type” of bookbag.
I could be wrong I just found your comment interesting.
Yeah but by stating as a fact that it was Mangione who was witnessed and recorded they are stating as a fact that he is the killer, which we don’t know yet. That is-- or used to be – a big no no in reporting. But times have changed. Here is a link I found explaining how they are probably opening themselves up to a libel charge with this kind of language.
I think they’re saying it definitely was Mangione who was recorded at the hotel, which if he was checking in/out is pretty easy to prove. From there they lost track of him because they didn’t know his route or he just didn’t show up on any other cameras.
I agree that the wording is likely intentional to imply guilt, but is loose enough that they could claim that isn’t what they were doing.
It’s an American newspaper, so it’s up to the victim. Canada and EU have much stricter rules.
I mean, if they want to go and taint every potential juror in the country they can go for it.
All it takes is 1 jury member.
As much as I want to believe all the conspiracies… the arrest happened in Pennsylvania… and since it was at a food place after a tip, there was no time to bring in pre-screened cops. And the odds that the local law enforcement would not leak that they planted evidence and such in this high profile case are about nil. Those local cops don’t like the snutty feds anyway, so they have plenty of motivation to leak any shenanigans.
If it was a setup and they chose their guy in advance, then there was time to bring in pre-screened cops. In fact, there was time to interview a small time cop, brief him on the promise of a bright career ahead of him if he keeps this one little thing on the down low, and make sure he was the closet beat cop when their chosen mark went out.
Have you seen the incompetence of our government? Not buying that they could pull that off.
Well they haven’t pulled it off yet. Their story is already full of holes. The feds expect us to believe he perfectly planned the murder with a 3D printed disposable gun, and was then caught two states away with that same gun? It doesn’t make any sense.
Most of the holes we see are us expecting him to make smart moves.
We know he was at the hostel
We know he was at the bus station
You know he had a fake New Jersey ID because he used that to check in at the hostel.
Motive, If it exists, should come out pretty clearly in discovery. If that actually was his journal he was carrying with him that he wrote in , the points in there will be easy to prove or disprove. From the sound of the journal he was planning on turning himself in or getting caught.
I’ll fully admit what we saw in the video and the actions right after seem to be very coherent compared to what were hearing now. But the discrepancies aren’t so big they can’t be explained if he was just kind of winging it.
The differences in the coat in the backpack could be the differences between a daytime camera and a camera in night mode. In a night shot things reflect ir light differently, that one shot definitely looks like it doesn’t have pockets in the front. But we are looking at potato cam footage.
They’ll also have proper records of him coming in with that fake ID.
I guess I’m just saying the difference is between them planting evidence at him coming in with the intent to pull it off and likely get caught should be stark enough to come out in Discovery if he even has a half decent lawyer. Also what the f*** was up with that Joe pesci arringement I attorney
Who phoned in the tip? Was it “anonymous”? How long did it take police to get there?
The cope is pretty crazy. After we free Luigi, Trump’s going straight to jail, too, yesiree.
