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      I could see a frustrated dad grumbling about “Price of X” on his own time, and it wouldn’t be the death of their character. My dad has extended frustration to me when I’ve overpaid for things.

      What sets this moment apart, to me, is the choice of language for the noun. “a fucking Mexican”. It’s extremely important to me that THAT is his label, and that racial identity somehow influenced the expected cost in his mind.

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      “Donald Trump raged when he learned the funeral bill for Vanessa Guillén—the U.S. soldier who was sexually harassed and horrifically murdered by a male soldier at Fort Hood in 2020—cost $60,000, a bombshell report revealed Tuesday.

      That outburst came after Trump invited Guillén’s loved ones to the White House and offered to pay for her funeral…”

      He offered to pay. No one asked him to do that.

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      I’m not upset that he’s upset at the amount. It’s purely the second half of that sentence that shows what a piece of shit he is

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    Trump was reportedly still irked by the bill later that same day, with him claiming that Guillén’s grieving family was trying to take advantage of his wealth.

    “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “F—ing people, trying to rip me off.”

    So this is rather telling, him thinking that the “money of the US government” is “my money”

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      This is because he desperately is clinging to the ancient ideal (and I mean ANCIENT. Like early Middle Ages ancient) that everything in the kingdom is the direct and personal property of the king.

      So in that sense, the billions of dollars allocated to the military every year is actually his money.

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    Just one more thing that should absolutely torpedo any political career, that won’t hurt him at all. His MAGAt cultists probably think that was “speaking the truth” or some stupid shit like that. Anyone who would be bothered by his comments has abandoned him ages ago.

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    We never buried my Dad’s ashes ⚱️. That’s dumb. Why go establish a debt to keep someone’s ashes in a bottle. We keep them in the living room. It’s just ashes. I personally agree with Trump on this. He’s still going to loose and am still gonna kick his nuts off when I find him in hell after I pass away. And most Mexicans aren’t fucking…not right now at this moment. It’s daylight. We’re working.

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      Trump said he’d fund it. He didn’t

      If he’s not going to keep his promises, he should f**K off.

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      Wouldn’t it be great if what we do with our loved ones after their passing is not up to you or Trump though?

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        Exactly! I don’t care what anyone else does at all with any of their loved ones. And I expect the same. What kind of an asshole stands in between that situation.

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    Somehow, some way, this orange clown makes me angrier everyday, even when I thought I’d seen the worst of him.

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    And the Veterans for Trump organization of course had this to say on the matter:

     

     

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    I love how Bonespurs is campaigning so hard for Kamala Harris. It’s good to see him doing something useful for a change!

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    And the only thing that matters: “Trump’s little butthole gremlin crawled out of his crack to comment: Lies! Democrat Lies! He never said this!!” and all the Magoos nodded in agreement at the absolute truth provided by an unbiased cult member.

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      They can be, sadly. It depends where you live, where you have someone buried, and what services and coffin and whatnot you get. But yeah, the funeral business in the US is pretty crazy greedy. $60k is definitely on the higher end. According to a quick Google, my state’s average funeral cost is around $8k, with the total cost (including mortuary services, etc) around $20k.

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            Why are people downvoting this? Do they think funerals, cremation, and burals are free somehow? They must think funeral homes are community service provided out of the kindness of the owners hearts.

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                  Have I? Yes, yes I have. I live fairly comfortably in a house that I own with a good job to pay the bills. But I volunteer with people that are not in the same situation and it’s heartbreaking. People that can’t afford to pay for unexpected expenses like a car breaking down. So they lose the job then lose their place of residence.

                  Vets, people with disabilities or even people that messed up early in life can struggle.

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      In the US, funeral homes try to get as much money out of you as possible because they know you are emotionally vulnerable. There are exposes on funeral homes having predatory services.

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      It should be noted that the article says it was attended by the mayor and city’s police chief. I’m assuming quite a few more less notable people also came. I would also assume this increases the cost.

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        The fuck? You don’t have to pay people to attend a funeral…

        Especially not with taxpayer money…

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          You need to provide more things the more people come. Also, when the state is at fault for the death, maybe they should pay for it. However, most of this one was paid for by donations after Trump refused (which I assume would have come from his own money or his campaign money had he not, but IDK), which you’d know if you read the article.

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    This is not someone killed in battle:

    Donald Trump raged when he learned the funeral bill for Vanessa Guillén—the U.S. soldier who was sexually harassed and horrifically murdered by a male soldier at Fort Hood in 2020—cost $60,000, a bombshell report revealed Tuesday.

    Somehow knowing the circumstances of her death makes Trump’s awful remark even nastier. Especially since he is a rapist.

    Guillén, a 20-year-old American of Mexican ancestry from Houston, was buried in her hometown on Aug. 15, 2020. Months later, in December, Trump reportedly asked his advisers in a meeting, “Did they bill us for the funeral? What did it cost?"

    When an aide responded “yes” with the bill’s total, Trump allegedly unraveled. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f—ing Mexican,” he said, according to people in the meeting who spoke to the Atlantic.

    Trump says vile things every day but this has to be one of the vilest.

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      But he definitely doesn’t think the same way about the people voting for him…

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        That’s the main point I never understood about his voters. His political agenda and your political affiliation don’t even matter. All you have to understand is that everything he does is for his own benefit. Nobody wants an egoist in charge in a smaller setting - why the fuck elect one as president?

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            He talks in very “us vs them” styles and it seems like a lot of people respond to that thinking the in group is his supporters. It isn’t, but they’re so sure. And it makes sense, he clearly adores his fans. But the in group is him. Everyone else is at risk of joining the out group on his whim

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      He followed through with the sentiment too.

      The magazine reported that Trump then turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and ordered him, “Don’t pay it!” That order was apparently heeded by Meadows, as the Atlantic reported that Trump never sent a dime to help cover funeral costs for the slain woman.

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        It’s absolutely vile to invite the mother to the white house, offer to pay, and then later rescind that offer.

        If he’d never offered it wouldn’t matter.

        This is just so so abhorrent, even for trump.

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          Racism aside, if I offered someone to help pay for a funeral, I’d choke in my coffee too if I the bill said $60.000 .

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              Sure, and all disrespect for trump but say I’m rich and crash my car into your fence and tell you “it’s fine just send me the bill”, there’s a difference when that bill turns out to be 60k

              Sounds a bit like the family chose the 'Royale" because of his promise

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                In that case though they either pay it or get sued. Especially if they have receipts from the company for the work.

                Don’t extend generosity no questions asked if you don’t want to follow up on the consequences.

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            Yes, but you wouldn’t:

            • offer to pay
            • without any stipulations
            • while on TV
            • while in the white house
            • as a person that brags about their wealth
            • for a funeral
            • of a military person
            • in a high profile murder

            Any idiot could see that the funeral was going to get out of hand.

            If Trump said he’d by me lunch it’d be the most expensive lunch in history.

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              If someone offers to pay your lunch, or in this case for the funeral of your murdered child, trying to make it ‘the most expensive in history’ to fully abuse that offer just makes you a Sad. person imo. Imagine having it done to you.

              To reiterate: It’d make me happy Donnie almost dies in a fire but is kept in a conscious coma for hundreds of years

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                Well, I don’t care at all if you think I’m sad, but you may have missed your point.

                If my neighbour offered to buy me lunch I would politely insist on contributing in my own way. I don’t really want people to buy things for me. That said, I dislike Trump immensely, he brags about his wealth, and if he offered to pay for something for me because the optics look good, I would absolutely abuse that offer. If it were for my daughters funeral presumably that would occupy my thoughts and I wouldn’t politicise it by using my daughters funeral as a way to steal from trump, but there would be no fucks given about the cost.

                My point is, “someone” offering to buy me lunch is not at all the same as Trump offering to buy me lunch while interviewing me on TV in the whitehouse because it makes him look good.

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                  Sure, I can understand trying to find ways to ‘get’ Trump, but seeing something that is still somewhat of an act of generosity as an opportunity to scam someone…

                  Anyway a) he was probably never going to pay this out of his own personal pocket and b) this just resulted in this family to have to pay for their absurdly lavish funeral themselves

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            True, but you also wouldn’t have the world’s largest economy and one of, if not the, largest governmental budget in the world like Trump does.

            And he also wasn’t paying for it out of his own pocket, it’d come from whatever federal budget covers the costs of military/veteran funerals.

            The entire motivation behind this is clearly racism and sexism, plus his overall disdain for veterans/our military in general. Probably stems from a jealousy he has, since veterans tend to automatically be held in higher esteem than grifters like himself, and he knows he could never have handled bootcamp, nevermind the actual military.

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              He actually did say he was going to pay for it personally, the military might cover some component of it, but it’s in the article saying that he couldn’t reimburse the family through the government:

              Natalie Khawam, the family’s attorney, responded, “I think the military will be paying—taking care of it.” Trump replied, “Good. They’ll do a military. That’s good. If you need help, I’ll help you out.” Later, a reporter covering the meeting asked Trump, “Have you offered to do that for other families before?” Trump responded, “I have. I have. Personally. I have to do it personally. I can’t do it through government.” The reporter then asked: “So you’ve written checks to help for other families before this?” Trump turned to the family, still present, and said, “I have, I have, because some families need help … Maybe you don’t need help, from a financial standpoint. I have no idea what—I just think it’s a horrific thing that happened. And if you did need help, I’m going to—I’ll be there to help you.”

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      Damn, he was almost close to making a valid comment about how wildly overpriced funerals are today, then instead went full bore into super racism

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      “This is not someone killed in battle”

      That sentence does not prepare you for the rest… Not that it would excuse Trump at all if they died “normally”. And I would say she definitely died in battle, just not in a war, her battle with the SA and everything is just as valid as anything else. I’d change that sentence if I were you.

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      It’s perfectly emblematic of how Trump doesn’t just other people for political gain, it’s built in.

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      And this is an american. Republicans should be afraid he can change whatever “american” is whenever he wants.

      What’s funny is his dumb brain immediately went with “What are the costs? I can blame the dems for cost” without even considering the circumstances