• collapse_already@lemmy.ml
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    But the original package seems like such an efficient way to injest micro-plastics. I hope the bottles have the annoying safety rings that are hard for people to open because they probably also produce micro-plastics.

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      I can’t speak for how the different materials degrade over time, but at least the old mylar bags were shielded from sunlight.

      They were polyester-reverse side printed to aluminum then laminated to polyethylene.

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    Sad, from a nostalgia point of view, but probably a win, environmentally. We have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles, the mylar pouches are pretty much all single use.

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          Here in american its recycling bin > recycling truck > garbage truck > landfill

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        …do you not believe bottles are recycled? Or is this just a snarky way of pointing out how ineffective the system is?

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              Yes, actually. We should abandon the whole idea. We should actually stop using plastics for everything. That’s the correct take.

              Something like 9% of plastic gets recycled.

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            Great, you not only read my mind but you are also spreading gloom about an extremely well known issue. Beautiful.

            I don’t think I could have lived in society for the past 15 years without hearing about this issue at least 5 times a year, and I’m not sure what made you think otherwise.

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            If you even thought to say that, I can’t blame you for your original comment.

            Yeah, it’s really sad how bad plastic is currently destroying our environment. Humans have to be able to see further into the future than “will I live to see the consequences of my actions? Because if not, I can’t worry about them”

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              I agree,

              It pisses me off that you can slap a recycling logo on a plastic bottle and call it a day when the process is nearly impossible and hardy ever done.

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          That’s not actually a solution when talking single-use either. Remaking the bottles from recycled glass is incredibly energy intensive and not an environmentally friendly process either. Multi-use bottles are much better, but the cleaning required also isn’t that simple and also relatively energy intensive (far from remaking the bottles of course).

          There’s also practical downsides to glass (heavy, breakable), but those are subjective and their relevance highly depends on the use case.

          Ideally, we wouldn’t buy stuff to drink in any kind of bottle, but just use tap water. possibly just buy some concentrated stuff to then make your actual drink at home. Nothing beats the effectiveness of transporting water through a simple pipe, but that isn’t even possible everywhere in the world due to drinking water quality issues…

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              Good job with reading you did there. Your didn’t even make it 8 words in and already decided to comment. Maybe give it another go, if you dare, and try getting a little further this time.

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            If micro plastics in the water supply is an actual issue long term the tap water will be shot for the whole of most places. Reverse osmosis systems are the only ones I had heard could reliably help, but I haven’t gone to extensive on looking into that. Each household may someday need under the sink or such systems if so : /. Unless we can reliably do so at treatment plants and then transport it through the lines without the water getting any back in. With many American cities having water at its current state, I don’t see that happening.

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          Well that would be because the god-king CEO would have like 45k less per year out of his 38,000,000 dollar salary without bonuses and stock value if we were to do that, you fuckin peasant idiot chump. Not only that but their enabling middle management might have as much as $200 less in their annual bonuses. Think for someone else other than yourself for once.

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          Our school won’t let us send reusable glass containers excuse of fear of breakage.

          I kinda understand, but our first grader has been using them for snacks at home for 5 years and never broken one.

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        When you say “we” as in you and me, yeah, I don’t think we could manage to recycle them. “We” as a planet certainly can and many countries do.

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        Bottle deposit systems are generally effective. In Sweden we recycle 90-95% of the pet plastic in drink bottles. We don’t really recycle the hdpe lids or polyester labels, though.

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    I don’t care about the nostalgia, but they are going to stop being easy to squeeze into a lunchbox now, so I’ll find a different brand.

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      Yeah but kids also take much smaller sips than adults. That said, last time I drank a Capri Sun, I downed it in one squeeze and was super disappointed.

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        |I downed it in one squeeze and was disappointed

        This was and always will be all of our experience. Child or not, this was and is the only way

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      A 30 Pack of pouches was sold for like 0.05 to 0.20 USD per fluid oz.

      They sell large 96 fl oz bottles at roughly 0.30 USD per fluid oz, so you’re actually getting less drink with bottles as things stand currently.

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    I see a ton of comments here hating on nostalgic people, with no actual nostalgic people in sight yet.

    Personally I don’t care if a pouched drink exists or not, but if they are no longer producing pouched drinks they should probably retire the brand.

    Do you remember what a CapriSun tastes like? It’s somewhere between an extremely-artificially flavored “juice” concentrate and a “fruit flavored” drink like Kool-Aid. The whole appeal was the packaging.

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      This is absolutely reeks of a bullshit “OMG the sky must be falling for you” condescending article from an older generation that thinks younger nostalgia is silly. I wouldn’t give this article any more credence than a boomer yelling “Avocado Toast!” at you when you’re enjoying a nice brunch. It’s just needlessly sensationalist shit stirring.

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      I see a ton of comments here hating on nostalgic people, with no actual nostalgic people in sight yet.

      …yeah you’re in a Lemmy comment section.

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    Plastic bottles in general should be illegal. It’s cans, glass bottles, or GTFO when it comes to beverages for me.

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      Glass has the best taste too, because it is almost totally chemically inert, you don’t get the odd flavor changes that you do with aluminum cans or plastic bottles.

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      FYI cans have a plastic liner to prevent acidic foods from dissolving the aluminium, so there’s still some plastic in it (much less then fully plastic bottles tho)

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          It’s more that it’s heavier, so you have to transport a lot more weight for the same amount of product.

          Secondary to that, glass can’t be shaped as compactly as an aluminum can or plastic bottle, so it takes up more room for the same amount of product.

          There’s no perfect solution, which is why we have a lot of options.

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              I dunno. it takes a lot more heat to melt and recycle some glass that plastic. that and the transport weight is a whole lot of extra environmental cost.
              and the whole separating by color thing in the recycling bins. best bet is to reuse the bottles for the same beverage by rinsing them back at the original bottling plant but that is a logistics nightmare

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                it’s not a logistics nightmare, we used to do that until plastic gave us the idea of single use containers, many restaurants still do it with larger 1L bottles

                also, while yes glass does have a really high melting point, most plastics never get recycled and instead get burnt, releasing a lot of toxic chemicals in the air (and even if they weren’t, you can only recycle some types of plastics, and even if you did, new objects can be made only by some percentage of recycled plastic, and never 100%)

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                Aren’t they as equally unrecycleable as plastic?

                I can’t even put them in my recycling bin…which is where the glass and plastic goes.

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    No this is good, I’ve been complaining about this since I was a kid and drank one where the straw got all clogged up so I cut into it and there was some creepy gross dead worm looking thing.

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    I very specifically remember the controversy 15-20 years ago when it was found that many of these pouches had mold in them, and you couldn’t see it because of the pouch or even taste it. I’m sure the quality control since then has improved, but any time I see a pouch of juice, I think about that mold incident.

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    Good, the packages can’t even be recycled. Corporations should be held liable for their plastic waste contributions via the packaging.

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      you only need to make them pay the price of each packaging every day until it biodegrades. you’ll see change very quickly.

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        They’ll spend 300millions in lawyer fees to find a loophole where they only need to pay one packet for the time it takes to burn.

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      You think the bottles are going to be any better? They’re going to end up in the ocean with all of the other plastic bottles from other drinks.

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            Single serving things should be illegal, only things needs to be single serving is shit found in a hospital

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              Single serving containers for food have their place, but there’s nothing that can’t be stored in either wax paper, aluminum, or glass(in that order). Aluminum is probably the best balance between recyclability and weight(fuel need to transport . You can even make aluminum “bottles” that fit in preexisting vending machines.

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        PET bottles are very easily recicled. In my country a sizeable amount of PET bottles sold are 100%recycled PET

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          But only a small fraction of the plastic gets recycled.

          If 9/10ths of the plastic ends up in a landfill or the Pacific garbage patch, having 1/10th of that plastic recycled into another bottle (which then will eventually have 9/10ths tossed in a landfill anyways) isn’t doing much. It’s better than not recycling at all, but it’s green washing to say that it’s “eco friendly”, which Capri-Sun allegedly did at this trade show.