• Allero@lemmy.today
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    8 months ago

    Why do people care?

    How did we come to the culture where personal life of politicians outside their direct political convictions matters?

    Not only is it a manipulation that has no relation to somebody’s political performance, it also makes opposition dependent on criticizing a person - something that recently fucked up Republicans themselves as Biden stepped down.

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      I think the Dems found the:“why not both?” meme when it comes to politics against the maga Republicans, who gave up on competing on policy years ago. They’ve only been competing by creating these dumb “culture wars” and ad hominem attacks of opponents. There is no principled position, there is no good faith arguments, there is no limit to their hypocrisy.

      The Democrats have been getting beat on messaging for years too.

      What I think we are seeing now is a sea change. The Democrats have wildly popular policy and positions on most things. They win on policy.

      And now they arent letting the Republicans get away with being “weird” hypocritical unprincipled lunatics that lack substance. They aren’t ceding the field on the “manipulation” that Republicans have been engaging in for years. Call them weird. Call them old. Call them criminals.

      If they hit below the belt, hit back. If they stay on the high road, meet them there. But as soon as they want to mudsling, slap em in the face with a well deserved mud pie.

      When democracy is at stake you can’t afford to lose an election because you wanted to avoid calling a couch-fucking creep, weird.

      I’ll also add, I think the reason you are seeing such a ground swell in Democrat support and a dogpile on JD Vance is the pent up frustration of years of Dems being doormats and not squaring up and fighting back.

      This is how you beat a bully. You have to bloody their nose. Turn the other cheek sounds great but you quickly run out of cheeks. Fight back.

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        I was going to ask the same question. Why should we care. But you have a good point. If the right is saying "we must look into the bedroom " then the left might as well join in. It won’t fix anything. But at this point, make the idiots squirm.

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        You hit the nail on the head. It’s their blatant hypocrisy and stupidity, and it’s time to make it hurt to be stupid.

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        You think he will drop out? I’m not sure what’s going to happen - our political situation is beyond sane prediction - but I feel like dropping out would be admitting a mistake, and I just don’t see either Trump or Vance wanting to do that. I feel like they will ride that decision right into November.

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    Any hacker group willing to recreate that one Black Mirror episode but with a couch instead of a pig?

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    Well, we do live in the age of AI generated deepfake videos, don’t we? We could feed Jesse Watters’ unnatural curiosity, couldn’t we?

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      I’m agree, but it is still funny. Anyway, apparently he wrote about it in his book?

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        He didn’t write about it, which is why this went viral, in a way. It was an online joke and some AP reporter searched his book for the word “couch” and wrote about it in a fact check to disprove that JD fucked a couch

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    Aunty: Oh Vance! My favorite nephew! Come in come in! Sit on the couch with me! What brings you here?

    Vance: nobody likes me because I wear makeup like women do and I like to fuck the couch!

    Aunty: well worry no more! You can stay with us for as long as you like! There’s just one thing I need to tell you about.

    Vance: what is it?

    Aunty: your uncle and I have a house policy where we don’t wear any clothes indoors. Is that okay? I’m sure if we talk to your uncle, we can agree to let you fuck a couch too!

    Vance proceeds to get complete naked. Uncle comes into the scene and the aunty is already naked too.

    Vance: hi uncle!

    Uncle: well hello! I see you are getting used to the rules of the house!

    Aunty: yes. He also would like it if he could fuck the couch when he feels the need.

    Uncle: no problem!

    Scene cuts to Vance taking a shower. For more on this please refer to your favorite pornhub show.

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    No wonder JD wants to make porn illegal. I’m almost with him if it means me not getting Rickrolled with a gif of him fucking a loveseat

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      “It’s not a loveseat, okay?! It’s a couch! I don’t fuck loveseats!” - Vance, probably?

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        “It’s called making love when it’s a loveseat! It’s in the name!!! Also, ban porn NOW!

        – From The book “Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir Of a Family and Culture in Crisis” by author JD Vance

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    The AP was correct to pull the article. Nobody can definitively say “J.D. Vance did not have sex with a couch” just that “J.D. Vance did not write about having sex with a couch in his memoir, ‘Hillbilly Elegy’.”

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      We don’t even know he didn’t write about it. All we can definitively say is that the story about J.D. Vance fucking a couch did not appear in the published edition of Hillbilly Elegy.

      Did he fuck a couch? Did he write about fucking a couch? Only Vance can tell us for sure and he’s probably too busy fucking a couch.

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              I’m not sure but if everyone is saying it there must be something to it, dude definitely enjoys the chaise.

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                I disagree on that concept. Just because a lot of people are saying something doesn’t mean there is something to it. Should we look at it? Absolutely yes

                But there is a guy who made a comment that says his grandma (or maybe it was his mom can’t remember) read the book so I’d ask who else has actually read the book?

                Good example of group think: lots of people thought disco was good.

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                  I agree with you 100%. We should absolutely be asking why JD Vance would fuck a couch, if in fact he fucked a couch. And why so many people would be talking about JD Vance fucking couches if he didn’t.

                  It doesn’t really change anything for me but I don’t think I’ll be letting that guy around my couches. Not because I honestly think JD Vance fucks couches but it’s better to be safe than sorry.

                  edit: Personally I don’t want to read the kind of filth a couch fucker would write so I haven’t read the book but I have it on good authority that people are saying JD Vance admits to fucking at least one couch.

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    Hey guys, it’s time to mature up and admit that Vance probably did not have sex with a couch.

    He made love to it. Also, the couch was totally asking for it.

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    Yeah let’s talk about some stupid meme instead of real issues like single payer healthcare, inequality, and I dunno maybe the fact we just had the hottest ever recorded temperatures on Earth in human history.

    Filling the narrative with this drama detracts from focusing public attention on real issues.

    But I guess this Vance guy prob just needs to drink what plants crave and not talk like a fag and everything will be ok.

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      But I guess this Vance guy prob just needs to drink what plants crave and not talk like a fag and everything will be ok.

      One, it’s not good to use slurs; even if this isn’t a situation about two men. Two, are you implying Vance’s a gay couch? Three, did you just assume that coach’s gender?

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        It’s not a slur. The saying is from the movie Idiocracy where society talks like that.

        I was implying that Lemmy is in that state of Idiocracy where real issues aren’t discussed but calling everyone a couch fucker who you disagree with is ok.

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          real issues aren’t discussed but calling everyone a couch fucker who you disagree with is ok

          I get where you are coming from. We have a few main factions on Lemmy (tankies, progressives, moderates/liberals, and trolls) and in JD Vance we all found something to laugh at together. Don’t rock the boat. Republicans don’t care about the issues. Democrats know about the issues; we are waiting on Harris to see her platform and which issues she cares about.

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      The average Murican voter cannot comprehend what you call “real” issues. This gossipy, high school, melodrama has much better chance to reach them