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    Gradually increasing revenue each year is more sustainable, as it avoids the pressure of constantly surpassing record highs and potentially alienating your customer base. CEOs somehow fail to understand this. Morons.

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    Shitty food for retarded prices. I’ll just go to the pizza place on the next corner and get a burger there. Better burger, better fries, same price, better surroundings.

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    they jacked prices as much as they could, had record profits, now they will have to pull back because people don’t have money.

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      I really hope McDonalds and like-minded companies become a case study on why you shouldn’t inflate prices for short term profit. It’d be great to see them hemorrhage customers and sales.

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      It’s almost like they were warned several times that “No wage, only spend” would result in consumers who can’t afford to consume.

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    They were making way too much money to begin with, nevermind growth.

    Also McDonald’s is just a real estate company, I’m guessing the franchisees are complaining they aren’t going to stick around.

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    I feel like lately fast food has lost its appeal.

    It isn’t that fast any more, the service has gone done hill (habbitually checking orders now, because they’re often wrong) and the prices are a joke.

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        That’s what I’m saying though, (as an American) if your baseline grocery budget is greater than the McD ‘value meal’, then you’re likely just allotting your funds poorly.

        The avg “$1 menu” item can be bought from your local grocer/butcher for as much as 1/4 price before seasoning. If you’re “going to McD for savings” then you’re the exact reason the world has the problems that it has.

        Edit: “is decent” lmao have you ever had more than breadcrumbs? Imagine growing up in ‘potato russia’ and thinking your food has flavor.

        Try tomatoes, try watermelon, try something and get out of your brainwashed ignorocracy.

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    Honestly, I’m amazed people still go there to eat. The food was never really good, but at least it used to be fast and cheap. But these days, it’s neither anymore. McDonald’s is now more expensive than the gourmet burger places in my city; that feels insane.

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      It always takes a year or two for the business to really feel it. First, it takes consumers awhile to visit and realize the prices are so high. Most people aren’t going to McDonald’s every week. And sometimes it takes a few visits before they really notice the sting.

      Eventually, the place just gets a reputation for being pricey, and people slowly stop going. But it’s a frog in a boiling pot thing, and of course the executives search for any other reason besides their own pricing decisions from 18 months ago.

      Have you ever noticed in those surveys they always ask “what can we do better?” And the answers usually don’t include “be cheaper”.

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          Another reason it “can’t be pricing”. Look, these locations are doing fine. What’s wrong with yours? Clearly the problem lies with local management and, clearly, vitally, not with executive decisions.

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    Good. I used to grab a burger after work sometimes but it barely feels worth it anymore.

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    I think we have two classes of “fast food” now. The higher class places like Five Guys, Poke Bros, Panera and going to cost you more, and you’re not going to go there every day (or even every week), but they’re pretty damned good.

    The OG fast food places - McDonald’s, Burger King, Wendy’s, Hardee’s/Carl’s Jr., Arby’s, Taco Bell - they’re just not good enough to command the higher prices that the new class of fast food can. Not to mention that the quality of all of those chains has declined dramatically in the last decade. Obvious drop in quality plus increase in price, people notice that.

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      … They have always been. There is fast food and fast casual.

      Fast food would love to be fast casual, they sell the idea to seem like fancy fast food. Like McDonald’s having table service through the kiosk, etc.

      But this isnt new. It’s literally the business plan of the places you mentioned to not be fast food.

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      Except you can get a Duo meal for $7 at Panera that’s soup sandwhich and chips and that’s 3$ cheaper than McDonald’s

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        I’ve never met an Panera that has everything in stock, so you’re going to be making a second or third line choice. One of your items is guaranteed to be out. Regular sandwiches, god knows why, are $14.

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          I used to love Panera back in high school, which was early 2000’s. As someone who hung out with friends at a movie theater on weekends it was the best place to eat at in the same strip mall. I still remember getting sandwiches for $4 or $5 at the time. If I was in high school today there is no way I could eat there, and if I could I also couldn’t justify spending that much. I feel like they are scrambling as well, changing a lot, making products worse, adding items nobody wants, just trying to hit big with one of them. My wife really wanted to try the new caprese sandwich they have, we were dying when she got it and all you saw was bread… when she opened it up there was like 1 slice of tomato and 1 slice of mozzarella and it was the saddest sandwich I’ve ever seen. I thought it was hilarious until I realized we paid over $10 for that joke…

          Sharing the pic so everyone else can join in on the laugh. Bad sandwich

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        Lol no you can’t. I didn’t believe you, so I checked. $11.79, and that’s for mostly cheaper options of the pick 2 (broccoli cheddar + frontega chicken). And I live in Missouri, where shit’s cheap.

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              They must have gone up in the past few months. It was 6.99 last I got them I thought. Oh well! Still cheaper than a big mac or whopper

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                Last time I tried to get fast food was like 2 or 3 months ago. I went to Taco Bell, saw that the beefy 5 layer burrito was like $4.50, and just left the drive through. Fuck all that

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                  Taco Bell is my go to - I am vegetarian so my opinions are slim. But for $7 I can’t get a crunch wrap with black beans, a cheesey bean and rice burrito, and a fiesta potato and a drink with thier app combo. Then after every other meal (like every to weeks) I get a bonus something. So. Yeah, I only mess with the build your own cravings box… 9 dollars for 3 tacos and a drink is ridiculous.

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    I won’t go back until hash browns are 2 for $1.

    Fuck outta here with this $2.00 hash brown bullshit.

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      $2.50 Cones were my breaking point. The tourist trap general store next to me does a decent waffle cone for $4.

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      You can get a pack of frozen hash browns for cheaper than that. Saves time, money, and tastier imo.

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              Oh, I’m not advocating McDonalds breakfast, but I remember them taking like 20 minutes in the oven. I’m not a morning person, so I do not plan my breakfast 20 minutes ahead, lol.

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                Air fryer cuts it in half.

                Can I shit on air fryers for a second though.

                How did everyone just accept this horrible example of marketing and branding nonsense? I literally had relatives explaining it to me like it was a magical new way of cooking just invented.

                Its a fucking tiny convection oven.

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                  1. Doesn’t have to be tiny - there are go full sized
                  2. More convection than convection. While there’s not a clear definition of either, companies that do both distinguish them by windiness
                  3. Many countertop models don’t need pre-heating!
                  4. More automated, no need to think. Just press a few buttons and wait for the ding, like a microwave.
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                people downvoting the shit out of you for speaking truth to Big Homemade Hasbrown

                shit takes a minute guys, its ok that not every feature of a home made thing is superior to McDonalds

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                  Yeah, I’m not sure why I struck such a nerve, lol. I just got frustrated because I’m not a morning person, and hashbrowns eggs and bacon take forever! And I can’t get the timing lined up, since I’m half awake, so screw it. Bagel and coffee.

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        Yep fuck that.

        2 for $1.

        And egg McMuffins and sausage muffins should be <$3.00.

        And the sausage burritos should be 2 for $1.

        McDonald’s trying to act like they’re a restaurant and not a fucking logistics company. The market rate of a potato doesn’t affect the price of French fries at McDonald’s when they legitimately own the rights to the only brand of potato that is used to make McDonald’s French fries.

        Any company that is known by all doesn’t do what the average person thinks they do.

        McDonalds? Logistics company

        CocaCola? Logistics company

        Ups? Logistics company

        Starbucks? Logistics company

        Miller/Coors? Logistics company

        Shaw’s? Logistics company

        W.B mason? Logistics company

        Exxon Mobile? Logistics company

        Amazon? Logistics company

        The price of sugar doesn’t affect Coca-Cola. The price of wheat doesn’t affect millercoors. The price of lumber doesn’t affect wb mason. The price of gasoline doesn’t affect ups. The price of coffee doesn’t affect Starbucks. The price of beef, potatoes, and dairy doesn’t affect McDonald’s. The price of oil (barely) doesn’t affect Exxon Mobile.

        These are the fucks that pull the levers. Not the farmers. Not the lumberjacks. Not the oil refiners.

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          The market rate of a potato doesn’t affect the price of French fries at McDonald’s when they legitimately own the rights to the only brand of potato that is used to make McDonald’s French fries.

          McDonald’s certainly has enormous buying power. I do imagine widespread drought or something would impact their bottom line by some pennies if it were severe enough. Anyway, I read:

          The Dakota Russet is one of eight varieties accepted [by McDonald’s] in North America. The most recent additions to the McDonald’s North American varieties were in 2016.

          Don’t see that one online but other varieties appear popular.

          Now, enjoy

          PROCESS FOR PREPARING FROZEN FRENCH FRY POTATO SEGMENTS

          (Other patents: methods of preparing / cooking food; packaging; equipment used in cooking food.)

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    Notice they are too embarrassed to post their prices online. To see the price, you have to put the item in the cart then use some bs 3rd party app. WTF McDs?

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      “If you have to ask the price, then you can’t afford it” happening in a McDonald’s, while people are out here financing a pizza from Dominos. It’s like we lost the Cold War.

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        That’s too insanely dystopian for anybody in sci-fi to have predicted it.

        The closest would be Demolition Man having Taco Bell (or Pizza Hut) as fancy dining. But they imagined the chain upping its game when it gained monopoly. How naive.

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        Warning! This definitely reads like a taco bell add but I just really appreciate taco bell for having food for vegans and not price gouging like the rest did.

        Hard disagree, if you learn what to order and how to customize your food.

        Fat ass burritos for 3.50 are not a bad deal imo, and I regularly make my own burritos at home.

        They have some trap items to avoid for sure, but the staples are still cheap. Hard shell and soft shell, rice and bean burritos, nacho fries are sort of in the middle price wise, etc.

        They are the easiest place for me to make a vegan order from hands down, they actually label shit on their order tablets. They have some freebies that are totally worth it some people never find out about because they order at the speaker exclusively. Fresco replaces cheese and dairy with a pico de gallo, you can toast most regular burritos, and even though its extra you can add nearly anything into anything for super cheap.

        Im actually not sure if I’m scamming them somehow because choosing their cheapest items and modifying is always cheaper than buying the same thing but premade. Not in any rush to ask about it either.

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          No, they absolutely price gouge. A 7-layer burrito here is 8 bucks before tax, just the burrito alone. They don’t have anything that’s actually cheap here in Canada, and I can get much better for the same price. Their “vegan” options here are also basically just their regular burritos with beans, and are just as ridiculously overpriced. It’s bottom-tier garbage food at way-too-high prices for what you get.

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            What is Canada doing to make taco bell so expensive. I’ll have to check next time I go, I know some of their menu items are poorly priced for sure but I just avoid them. 8$ for a burrito I’d be shocked to see at my local one though.

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              I wish I had a better answer than just “pure and unchecked greed”, but that’s what’s most likely. They can’t even be considered the “cheap” option anymore and the quality isn’t any better to make up for the increased prices.

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                Well at least burritos and tacos are stupid easy to make. I make a bean and rice and tomatoes mix in rice cooker all together. But yeah thats a bummer taco bell is awful near you, they’ve been great for me especially with the vegan friendly menu. Is it possible its only cheap if you avoid meat and dairy? Maybe thats the trick.

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      Taco Bell still has $1.25 bean and rice burritos where I live. It’s like 400 calories so it’s a pretty good deal.

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          They aren’t even cheap anymore, damn near $2+ basic bitch tacos. I can go elsewhere and get a street taco (with multiple meat options) for a buck that’s actually flavorful and warmer than room-temp, and that’s in fucking Ohio

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        Not here! The burritos at Taco Bell here are outrageous. A single bean burrito is 4.50CAD. The 7-layer? 8 BUCKS. The Grilled Cheesy? Fuck you, over ten dollars for a single burrito. A burrito that isn’t heated right, has all the ingredients separated into disgusting pockets of single ingredient, and makes you feel terrible after eating them.

        And mind you, these aren’t even combos. This is just one burrito.

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          UK Taco Bell is somehow worse.

          They seem to be trying to trade on the novelty/name, because there is no chance I’m paying £8 for a taco the size of a hamburger.

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      I assume you are North American, look for small ethnic food shops. You will find better food at a cheaper price.

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      Hole-in-the-wall ethnic food shops/take out are the way. If you want 'murican fast food, you gotta break the bank… but find a little family owned taqueria that does their shit right and you can stuff your face with the best tacos you’ve ever eaten for like $3. Highly dependent on your local options ofc, so keep an eye out.

      In my experience, the sketchier the restaurant looks, the better the food is.

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        You absolutely can get great American food from a hole in the wall. Also, I’m not sure why you had to say ‘murican as if our food has something wrong with it. Just a weird flex. I’m lucky to live in a city with a plethora of food trucks all around and you can get pretty much any kinda cuisine for cheaper than fast food joints.

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        I was amazed to find out the chicken place I order from looked nice (for a sketchy hole in the wall ethnic food place). $30 CAD for two or three days worth of INCREDIBLY good chicken and fries

        Like seriously, it was dying mall food court sketchy when I expected, “…You killed the health inspector with a pan to the head didn’t you?” sketchy

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          Does this pretty much imply that if it looks shady and stays in business, but the food is shite, then then business is a front for money laundering or other criminal activities? Because there is this absolutely trash Mexican place near where I live and it’s always dead (no business) and the food is suspiciously bad like “the refried beans are dry and look like they’ve been sitting out for days” kind of bad. And this place has been “in business” for like 15 years.

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            Yes. Otherwise there wouldn’t be any point in keeping it open.

            Restaurants have notoriously thin margins, so to stay in business 15 years, something shady is happening most likely.

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            There’s a Bosnian place right next to an amazing Mexican place we like to go to. The Bosnian place always has people coming and going, but never staying for more than 5 minutes, and never walking out with food in hand. I’m pretty sure it’s a front.

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            It could also be a hobby business to keep someone’s spouse/family busy and out of the house.

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          And if it’s a front the food might still be awesome because it’s some rando doing their home cooking to cosplay as a restaurant worker

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        I wish we had those around here. Even the hole-in-the wall Indian places start their plates at like $12. It’s absurd.

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        In Louisiana some of the best fried chicken and other Cajun food is in gas stations. Not even joking. It’s usually small towns, but there are some around NOLA and other cities, too.

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          Best fried chiicken i ever had was at a gas station in the middle of nowhere off ther interstate in Mississippi.

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            One of my best fried chicken experiences was a $5 fried chicken buffet somewhere in rural Kentucky near Lincoln’s birth home.

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          Those breaded skewers with chicken/pickle/onion/potato you can get at roadside stations down in the MS delta area are absolutely incredible and I love them. Any time I’m passing through there I have to find some.

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          What is Dick’s charging these days? My local equivalent burger joint has a double with fries for just over $8. Easily the best I can do around here.

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            $8.10. Their advertised base wage ($21/hr) must be lower than their actual base wage. I saw a posted at location janitorial position with a $23/hr start.

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            $5.30 for a deluxe, $2.80 for fries.

            Dick’s and a taco truck in the same area ($2.50/taco) are my go to cheap but delicious lunch options.

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      Cheap food is still out there, but it’s not corporate food.

      Corporations put profit above all, which is anathema to how every successful chain became successful. Whatever mechanism they had to stresamline production, negotiate with vendors, push addition products (would you like fries with that?), their primary goal was always consistency and value. You know what to expect, and it’s worth the money.

      You’ll find that now in local diners, in food trucks, in cafes, and in small restaurants where they value good food over profit, but you won’t find it at most chain restaurants.

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        Food trucks are hit or miss. The food can be OK but the ones here tend to be very overpriced for the quality.

        Someone else mentioned ethnic places which have become my go to for good, cheap food. There’s a gyro place near me where you can get a gyro and fries for like $7. It takes 5 minutes and the food is fresh.

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          BBQ trucks tend to be way overpriced in my experience. But that may be biased because I make damn good BBQ. I have friends that ask me to make food for their birthday parties, diaper parties, bachelor parties etc. paying $12-15 for a sloppy mess of a pulled pork sandwich with no taste other than the sauce is absolutely unacceptable. That being said, I’m far enough away from any BBQ “hub” that nobody here knows what good BBQ is.