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ickplant@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 9 days ago

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ickplant@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 9 days ago
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  • icelimit@lemmy.ml
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    We will also use 3 sticks to tell the time.

    Time is linear. But this will be circular.

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      Time …line? Time is not made of lines. It is made of circles. That is why clocks are round!

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        Why don’t I ever get the fucking sniper rifle?

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    My pet theory is (circa 10000 BCE) that ‘houses’ and ‘hours’ are related words, the 12 hour clock matched the zodiac, each hour/house was 1 Assyrian ‘watch’ and they had no trouble day or night (constellations at night, sundial during the day), they were easy to build, easy to communicate, easy to understand and efficient.

    Then the Egyptians stole the technology (Circa 6000BCE) said ‘12 hours in a day? I got you bro’, fucked it up and it all went downhill from there.

    Feel free to quote me in your prize winning scientific paper.

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      How important is it to your theory that “hour” is related to “house” in… ancient Assyrian language? Because they’re completely unrelated in English, “house” coming from Germanic hus and “hour” coming from French ore. If we look at ancient Greek, the two are hoora for “hour” and oikos for “house”. I think English post-vowel shift has to be the first language where those two even sound similar.

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        Not central, just suspicious, but… this is ‘house’ as in astrological house as in the first part of the word ‘horoscope’, not house like a house you live in.

        My background in linguistics consists of a couple chompsky soft-science books and a love of tolkien, but if you actually know something and wanna chat I’d honestly love to dig in on this seriously. DM me.

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    Only noobs start counting at 1. Midnight = 24:00 = 00:00

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    maybe this is because i grew up in a house that had a clock with hands but no numbers, but wth do you mean “the 6 means 30”.

    analogue clocks consists of two progress bars. the numbers are just for convenience.

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      3π/2

    • Derpenheim@lemmy.zip
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      When the minutes hand is over the 6, 30 minutes have passed

      • jdnewmil@lemmy.ca
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        whoosh!

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        There is no six. Clock faces have big and little ticks and a 12 maybe.

        Example: Eco-Drive One -Official Site [CITIZEN] https://share.google/2d1QSW6LfqjUUHMeX

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          If you want to avoid Google’s tracking: https://www.citizenwatch-global.com/one/index.html

    • Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Poor lad never learned the code

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    I get the joke, but the sundials of ancient civilisations precluded clocks.

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      Sundials also didn’t work very well at midnight for some reason, what’s ya point?

      • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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        That’s why for a long time, and even longer in the Royal Navy, the new day started at noon and not midnight.

      • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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        You’re just not holding the flashlight properly.

        If you hold the flashlight right they work 100% of the time.

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          That’s when we bring out the moondial.

          • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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            The firedial works every night.

        • over_clox@lemmy.world
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          Instructions unclear, I think my fleshlight is broken…

          • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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            Dial it back a bit son

            • HowAbt2day@futurology.today
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              Back in, or back out? Please be clear or I’ll have to keep trying both ways. Over. And. Over. And. Over. Aaaannn…fffff.

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                <connection reset by peer>

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        Sundials also didn’t work very well at midnight for some reason, what’s ya point?

        Noon is the center of the dial. Midnight is just the opposite of noon.

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          I cannot tell if this is sarcasm or not. This is peak Poe’s Law.

    • A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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      It’s all the Babylonians fault

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        Those fuckers could count to 60 on their fingers. Witchcraft!

        • Nikls94@lemmy.world
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          Using binary, we could count to 1023 with 10 fingers but only 511 with 9 fingers

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            Boys could count to 2047.

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      Yup, that’s why we still don’t have any clocks to this day.

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      “Precluded” means “prevented” or to “make impossible” ❤️

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        Oh hot damn, first time I used that word.

        Maybe presaged?

        • Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Predated

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          Preceded maybe? Precluded sounds like it should mean something similar for sure tho

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            Ah yes, I knew I was messing two words up and forgot preceded! 👍

    • exothermic@lemmy.world
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      Well… This post sent me down a rabbit hole -> Unequal Hours if anyone else is curious.

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    Alright, I’m calling a 4.1666666666666666666666666666 metric hour meeting to discuss this!

    The meeting might run to a full 5 metric hours.

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      “Hey sweetie, please come home by Hour 89.58333333/100 otherwise I’m gonna have to ground you for a week, love you!”

    • bountygiver [any]@lemmy.ml
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      there’s 86400 seconds in a day. If we use a new unit that is slightly shorter than a second as a metric second, we can do 100000 metric seconds a day, with 100 metric seconds per metric minutes, and 100 metric minutes per metric hour, and each day having 10 metric hours.

      Your 1 hour activity now takes 0.5 metric hours (it might be 20% longer, but that’s arbitrary anyways, we rounded them to the closest hour anyways)

      We are only used to the current system because we have been using it.

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        it actually exist, but, as always, got fucked over by the aristocrats

      • BeeegScaaawyCripple@lemmy.world
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        Thanks Obama

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    Its possible to create a new time format/ system, the problem is how to standardise it everywhere

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      Easy, use the metric time.

      9:30 PM would just become Hour 89.58333333/100 of the day 😉

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        No use imperial, eg. 1 gallon is equal to 2,4899 feet mutliplied with 8,67763 nuggets, therefore you need to work five big mac longer

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        It has been done and it is called swatch time.

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          Beat/Swatch time was itself inspired by French Republican time.

  • Whelks_chance@lemmy.world
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    Isn’t this a standup routine?

    • Cataphract@lemmy.ml
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      yeah I thought so too, can’t find it though. Thought it was a Nate Bargatze joke like he does with Washington on SNL (link1/link2)

      • Whelks_chance@lemmy.world
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        This one,

        https://youtu.be/9o8QZA2gsjM

        No description about who it is, I can’t find the original.

        • zarniwoop@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          His name is Dave Allen

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Allen_(comedian)

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            Thanks. Nice username, mine is also a reference.

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    24 hour analogue clocks exist. I have a 24 hour watch which only revolves once per 24 hours. It’s a disadvantage though.

    The reason why clocks and watches display 12 hours at a time is so that they have space to show finer resolution of time. If you try to cram 24 hours onto a clock, it’s not easy to tell if it’s 12:20 or 12:30 at a quick glance.

    Most people are not too stupid to be aware of if they are in the first 12 hours or second 12 hours of a day, so they benefit from a watch with 12 hour timescale and finer resolution so that they can more easily see exactly what time it is.

    And for all the dummies posting about 12h vs 24h clocks. In the sense of saying that it’s 1pm vs 13:00. That’s not what this meme is even describing. This is about the physical layout of a clock or watch face.

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      I can’t believe this is the first I’m hearing of 24-hour analogue clocks! That’s so cool. But yeah, I see your point about it now allowing for very much precision at a glance.

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        If 12 is better than 24 we should build 6 hour analog clocks already!

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      You could get a jump hour watch, meaning the hour isn’t a slowly moving hand but instead jumps from 6 to 7 with a jump, avoiding potential mixing up of hours, it would make it easier to read those 24h

      Like this watch

      Edit: The original watch linked is a weird one, it’s not a jump hour watch but instead it has a jumping dial to turn it from a 12h to a 24h, very neat! I can’t seem to find a 24h jump hour watch apart from this 30k breguet lol

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    Keep it simple and just measure in terms of seconds since the Big Bang. The current time is 435,884,579,968,052,736 seconds, easy peasy

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      Most of that time is irrelevant to me. Let’s just start it in 1970. And I need more precision, so can we do milliseconds instead of seconds?

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      Nah just use Unix time

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        technically that is 64 bit unix time.

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          The big bang was definitely not in 1970

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            The big bang was definitely not last Thursday

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            They had to pick a period where 32 bits would last long enough. If they had started with 64 bits, they could have used a start of time much further back.

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      This would go great with my idea of everyone having a GUID instead of a name.

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    The numbers on the clock actually make a lot of sense.

    12, 24 and 60 are highly composite numbers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highly_composite_number).

    Imagine using numbers in a world where most people have no real understanding of fractions.

    That is also the reason why you see the same or similar numbers as common screen refresh rates. 24, 48, 60, 120 and 240.

    The 12 hour clockface design is that way because it is a similar design to that of a sundial, so people did not need to learn a new way to read the time. This also meant that for readibility reasons it was beneficial to only have 12 numbers.

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      60 in particular is a superior highly composite number, 12 divisors compared to a paltry 8 for 24.

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      Everybody loves composite numbers, but I’m missing the point in which this is advantage in the context of time. The only situation I know of where time needs to be divided is in paid work, and in this case it’s always converted to base 10 money.

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        The decimalization of money is its own fun history, with a lot of different countries undergoing their own transitions at different times.

        The Spanish dollar, which was the world reserve currency in its heyday, was divided into 8 reals (see how pirates used to refer to money in the form of “pieces of eight”) but issues with the supply of silver led to the introduction of the lesser real de vellón, which eventually settled at 20 to the dollar after over 100 years of uncertainty and confusion.

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      Surely you mean common refresh rates like 23.976Hz (NTSC), 25hz (PAL & ATSC), 50hz (PAL & ATSC), 59.95hz (NTSC), 100hz (PAL+) and 144hz, right? /s

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    Oh also the hours will start at 1 and the minutes will start at 0

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    The 6 means 6, 18, AND 30.

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      At least they are all divisible by 6.

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    Babylonians: I see this as a complete win.

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    Haven’t seen this one this week. Thanks

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