• TipRing@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Well as long as we can blame women, that’s what’s really important. Remember moms, if your child is neurodivergent it’s entirely your fault you irresponsible hag.

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      2 months ago

      This sounds like satire, as though this isn’t exactly what these people actually think.

      100 years ago, when these people think was the ‘golden age’, women were actually blamed for their children’s issues. They blamed nearly everything on women. Yeah, let’s go back to that: MAGA women, how does that sound to you? Do you think you’re one of the good ones?

      Let’s bring back lobotomies for women who have too many opinions, too. The world was better when only men were allowed to have opinions and women were the root of all evil, like the bible says.

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          Oh god. I’d never heard of that. That was a thing, started by an asshole psychologist in the 1940s. Legit psychopathic mentality, wtf.

          e: so the jist is that your kid is autistic because you suck at being a parent and are too ‘cold’. Imagine your’re doing everything you can, but the entire medical system is telling you it’s your fault for not caring enough. That’s the ultimate gaslighting. Because if you cared enough, your kid wouldn’t be this way.

          e2: and reading more, they took kids away on this grounds. I feel so horrible for those parents. You had no recourse at all. You were doing your best, and your child had a medical issue, but based on the social symptoms of your child you were a ‘refrigerator mother’ so your kid was put in an orphanage. Wtf.

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        This sounds like satire, as though this isn’t exactly what these people actually think.

        It still happens today.

        I just had a baby. You’ve no idea how many times we were told “Good/Great Job Mom” after hearing the baby is healthy, and seeing it isn’t deformed.

        As if an illness would be my wife’s fault.

        We just left those on read. Like WTF?

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          My wife had cancer young and it caused her to be unable to nurse our children; she just couldn’t produce enough and so we bottle fed our kids. It’s been over 10 years but she still gets shit on for it by certain types (including some in my own family who remind us whenever they get a cold). She is so goddamned, rightfully angry with the types who try to shame people for not breastfeeding.

          Those types are in charge of policy right now.

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      Something tells me the brain worm made less difference than it should. This guy’s mind was already half eaten.

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    I’m gonna need to see more than one peer-reviewed study before believing anything coming out of this administration.

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      Here’s a few, not sure if they’re peer-reviewed but one is a meta-analysis. Important to note which journals these are published in, since less reputable journals will happily publish a lawsuit-seeking falsified study in exchange for money.

      Anyway I haven’t read these, here you go:

      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6138494/

      In conclusion, on the basis of these studies, only weak associations between paracetamol exposure and neurodevelopmental issues have been identified, and no causal link can be inferred.

      2018 The British Pharmacological Society

      https://academic.oup.com/aje/article-abstract/187/8/1817/4980325

      Acetaminophen use during pregnancy is associated with an increased risk for ADHD, ASD, and hyperactivity symptoms. These findings are concerning; however, results should be interpreted with caution given that the available evidence consists of observational studies and is susceptible to several potential sources of bias.

      1. Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

      https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6822099/

      Cord biomarkers of fetal exposure to acetaminophen were associated with significantly increased risk of childhood ADHD and ASD in a dose-response fashion. Our findings support previous studies regarding the association between prenatal and perinatal acetaminophen exposure and childhood neurodevelopmental risk and warrant additional investigations.

      2019 American Medical Association

      Okay yeah now I’m concerned.

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        Okay yeah now I’m concerned.

        This is the problem with access to papers on the internet to non-scientist. Epidemiology is a weak science, with correlations only, and huge amounts of hand waiving that is almost always wrong.

        Note that this shit study did not ask why the mothers were taking acetominophen. Sample size is very low. No actual mechanism was even looked at. We piss away so much money on these studies, and if the data is negative, it is very difficult to publish, so they p-hack the data to see an effect, for more papers, for more funding.

        Here’s the problem with this stupid hypothesis:

        In 1982, seven people were killed from tainted tylenol bottles in Chicago, this led to an immediate halt of use nationwide and the recall of 31 million bottles. Tylenol sales dipped for YEARS. Less autism? NO.

        Also, while North Americans eat these pills like candy for any stupid reason, many countries, like Germany, Switzerland and Austria avoid them because of liver toxicity. No difference in autism rates.

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        Okay yeah now I’m concerned.

        The sum of those studies is effectively little to nothing. We all know that correlation is not causation and these correlations are weak and logically problematic.

        Instead, take a look at this one, which not only hypothesizes a cause, but used that hypothesis to form a treatment that worked so well it seemed almost miraculous.

        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5497533/

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        Three weeks ago (interesting timing), meta study:

        Our analyses using the Navigation Guide thus support evidence consistent with an association between acetaminophen exposure during pregnancy and increased incidence of NDDs. Appropriate and immediate steps should be taken to advise pregnant women to limit acetaminophen consumption to protect their offspring’s neurodevelopment.

        https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-025-01208-0

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    And republicans endorse this shit because they’re a death cult full of gullible fucking fruit loops. am I missing something?

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    What a fucking joke. Tylenol is literally like, the only painkiller you can take while pregnant. Our OB said only Tylenol. To attack this, that is in such broad use, is to clearly state that this study is bunk and they’re just making shit up

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      Dude said he could see kids’ mitochondrial DNA or some shit, anything he says should be bunk!

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      The study isn’t necessarily bunk, but I wouldn’t trust him even as far I could throw him.

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        If you look at studies from the past decade you’ll find multiple, that are actually worth their salt with a high enough sample size, showing no changes in standard distribution of abnormalities. If you would like to post some studies proving your point that there is validity to this, please enlighten me. But the majority of OBs will continue to recommend Tylenol for pain relief in pregnant people.

        This is a trial run for his vaccine bullshit. If he can get away with this, you can bet your ass he’s coming out with a “our study shows vaccine cause autism and SIDS in babies” and use that to halt vaccines. The man has told us who he is for decades and a high on heroin leopard, does not change his spots.

        Do not try to give validity to his bullshit, unless you have well documented (multiple studies), large sample sizes, and over a significant amount of years studying the results. This kind of rhetoric is gonna be the thing that kills us, when he pulls the trigger on vaccines.

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      Have they tried investigating water? Most criminals have water. Most pregnant mothers whose kids turn out to have autism drink water.

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        Turns out they have investigated water, and it’s fucking toxic here in the states. 100 or so chemicals are regulated and tested for out of many thousands.

        Based on the data of the chemicals that we regulate and test for, the reality points to our water as being a potential environmental cause to seriously look into.

        https://www.ewg.org/interactive-maps/pfas_contamination/map/

        Capitalism and the byproducts of the industrial revolution are driving chronic disease in a general sense, at the very least.

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          Gosh, I’ve read about the water situation in places like Michigan. It didn’t occur to me that parts of the USA have water that could be to blame. I should have said bread! Although that might trigger the gluten crowd.

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            It’s not just Michigan, not even close. I recommend looking up Status Coup News on YT to see Jordan Chariton’s reporting.

            Here is a recent short (please ignore the AI voice, I guess it was an experiment for them): https://youtu.be/xsMJvO-fhxg

            (https://youtu.be/MJ19Nzx-93w is the video it’s based on.)

            That’s the latest crisis, there are many more that only they do reporting for - check the channel out. The EPA and mainstream media regularly cover up crises.

            And in regards to bread, that’s probably toxic too. Our pesticides suck and our soil is also likely fairly toxic as well.

            Though not completely widespread, contaminated sewage biosolids are used in agriculture to fertilize soil, and recycled black water may even be used for agricultural irrigation in some places.

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    I was once told that Tylenol wouldn’t pass today’s standards of the FDA. I believe it. Pretty sure that it’s the second leading cause of liver failure… Don’t both ibuprofen and naproxen last longer?

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      Which probably cause a variety of cancers, but not autism. The increased rates are almost entirely the result of better diagnosis criteria.

      When JFK’s nephew hears 1 in 36 kids is diagnosed, his mind jumps to someone more disabled than his Aunt Rosemary after Walter Freeman was through with her.

      But almost all of the increase in diagnoses is made up of people who have a favorite train livery, want their food to have a specific texture, and get pretty upset about the itchy tag in their shirts.

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          It’s not the tags, it’s the seams. Easily remedied by buying natural fibers and turning the shirts inside-out.

          Now if we could only convince t-shirt makers to offer an “autistic print” option so the design is printed on the inside…

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            Fucking sock seams are hell. Socks are the worst fucking things ever because the seam is nearly always noticeable.

            My shirts and underwear have no tags, just printed directly on the fabric.

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              One if my weird tism things is socks. I gotta have socks. I don’t remove them except for bathing and sleeping.

              Look up Darn Tough socks, or really anything with Merino wool. Life changing socks, I tell you.

              Edit: spelling