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      Sadly proper estimates seem to be lacking, but looking at crowd images, it can’t be more than a few thousand. Maybe 10k-20k if you’re being really generous. As one commenter put it, “It’s not a big crowd if you’ve got room to throw a football without annoying anyone.”

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            Further, it happens to hit the magical “3.5%” number everyone was throwing around.

            Maybe it’s correct and others will vouch for it, analysize, but an estimate that’s significantly higher than an already decently high number that bridges the apparent gap to the 3.5% number almost certainly seems too conveniently on point, like someone wanted to stretch the numbers as little as possible while still hitting the designated number.

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      G. Elliot Morris on Bluesky did a breakdown of the numbers and his very conservative, low-end number was 4mil. Top end was 6mil.

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        With a U.S. population of 340.11 million (Wikipedia number) that’s 1.18 - 1.76%. That’s… pretty pathetic considering what was being protested.

        1 - 2 people out of every 100 in America stand against fascism, the rest… who knows?

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            For context:

            5% of the Italian population protested the Iraq war.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_February_2003_anti-war_protests

            Approximately two million people joined their hands to form a human chain spanning 690 kilometres (430 mi) across the three Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, which at the time were occupied and annexed by the USSR and had a combined population of approximately eight million.[2]

            That’s 25% of the population.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Way

            3.3% of the Phillipines population protested in 1986 whilst under a dictatorship.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Power_Revolution

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                4 years of the alarm ringing, a 4 year snooze, and then 6 months of the alarm ringing again is an awfully long time to take to wake up. All whilst living in the “richest” country in the world, with the freedom to carry guns, and say what you want. That’s… Even more pathetic than I first thought.

                Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed seeing the pictures and videos of thousands, millions, of people marching, but you can do better.

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                Then you’ve not engaged your brain.

                How easy was communication in 1986 compared to now?

                How easy was mobilisation, in an island nation, under a dictatorship?

                Americans still have most of their freedoms, use them before you lose them.

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                Was No Kings truly a one day protest when there’s been anti-Trump protests dotted around for weeks? It’s one part of a larger group of protests.

                All of the numbers I took were for one day turnouts. They’re comparable.

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          I mean you are including all babies and people in nursing homes and in prison and in the military and have jobs that they can’t not go to and in psych facilities. Its still pathetic really but just pointing out using the whole population is a bit off. Also really rural is sorta hard. I can say the folks driving and being inconvenienced by it seemed jazzed and supportive in their honks and call outs (you can tell pissed off from alright) and there were folks in building windows shouting encouragement. I guess im saying I have seen protests get a lot less nice of reactions to people not in them.

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          Are you kidding me? When Minnesota’s were basically cancelled due to political violence and who knows how many people had to work? 1-2% of the entire population is fucking huge.

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              Or have family shit, or are just too tired, or are sick, traveling, in fear of repercussions, have to get the car serviced, take the pet to the vet, are dealing with the fallout of tornadoes/fires/flooding, etc., etc., etc…

              There’s a million reasons why people can’t attend an event they support. I’d say 10-20x the turnout would be the real number of supportive numbers.

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                That’s an awful lot of excuses for allowing fascism to proliferate.

                Democracy isn’t just ticking a box every 4-5 years and being done with it.

                If you don’t want to live under autocracy then you need to actually show up and make your voice heard.

                37.5% of the US population could make time to watch the Super Bowl but less than 2% could make time to walk through their town/city centre? Shameful.

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                  The super bowl is broadcast into every store, restaurant and other local with a TV. People watch the super bowl from work in droves because it’s passive and just on regardless.

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        Highest estimate I’ve heard is 13M. Can’t back it up, but I wouldn’t be surprised. There were 100 in my little town, and we got way more honks of support than rude fingers.

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      Just the multiplier alone - take any individual protest and multiply it by over 2,000 … gets big fast.

      I actually had five very convenient choices

      • should I go into Boston for the big one, to really showcase our strength?
      • should I goto Lexington for the historical context, the commemorating the start of the revolutionary war, throwing off the yoke of the king?
      • should I goto my ex’s town, if she had the kids?
      • should I goto the nearby town threats a collection of malls, make a day of it and get shopping done?
      • no, I’ll goto to MY town, stand up with MY town. We had a couple thousand very enthusiastic protesters in MY town and it was awesome
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    What a surprise, he and his people inflate the numbers. Surprised they didn’t say, “Largest attendance for a military parade in history!”

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    Looks like there’s a lot more real Americans than traitors in this country.

    Time to take the gloves off and let them know it.

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    Apparently 90% of Trump parade’s attendees were wearing very good camoflage, or maybe advanced army stealth technology!

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      Weird interpretation of “over 5 million”

      Edit: elsewhere in the Wikipedia article it says “4-6”. Not seeing anything like 13

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        The edit log for that page is already around 1500 entries by the look of it? So it would not surprise me if there was an edit to 13, then a few minutes later a reversion or additional edit.

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    That amount of people reminds me of the Mexican independence parades done in Mexico yearly. Usually those parades have much more people density.

    • I’m guessing 30-60k, based on the density of participants and their initial estimates on crowd size. They expected 200k and most seats were empty as they grew more distant. Why would you prepare for 5-10x your projected crowd? No, they just had a poor showing between the weather and the approval rating.

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        not to mention, I saw a news report where people went to the parade just because of their ties to the army, and not to see the presidential nonsense.

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        While it’s safe to assume that the people who’d go to a Trump parade are pretty dense, I’m not sure how you can tell that from a picture.

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        Because a lot of actually-cool trolls signed up for the parade with no intention of actually attending

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          Absolutely did. They considered cutting the parade short because of it, so it was at least unpleasant. I’m not going to misattribute trump’s successes and failures. Internet people on the left were dumbfounded by trump’s electoral success, and I attempt to avoid following in their footsteps.

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        Why would you prepare for 5-10x your projected crowd?

        Because Trump is a megalomaniac surrounded by toadies, and nobody was willing to tell him that his turnout expectations were bullshit.

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    They know it was barely 20.000. they know. They could never admit it ofcourse.

    And the “not admitting and not wanting to be truthfull” is the whole problem.

    I’m afraid it might mean that the next demonstration will need to become slightly more forcefull. And more forcefull after that.

    Right until they acknowledge the legitimate concerns… Or they are removed…

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        If you subtract the military personal who were ordered to attend, that sounds like a very reasonable guess. Maybe they could get swag like the 1%ers. Hats and T-shirts with “I’m one of the 8647 TRUE Americans!”

        Somebody please do this.