• oppy1984@lemm.ee
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    11 days ago

    Breaking into the capital, causing physical damage, attacking police officers, stealing U.S. government property. That’s defending democracy.

    Standing outside a federal detention center where people are being illegally held. That rebellion.

    Welcome to trump’s America, peace I’d was, slavery is freedom.

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    12 days ago

    feeling like fascist martial law. who could have seen it coming. i bet brandon would have stopped it. not socialists though, socialism is evil. 🙄

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    12 days ago

    People peacefully assembling to exercise their Constitutional rights, and the guy who planned, led, and launched an actual Insurrection which obviously attacked hundreds of cops wants to claim THAT’S a rebellion.

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    These people are TOAST! If the Wanted to ACTUALLY Peacefully Protest they SHOULD have just BROKEN the CAPITOL WINDOWS, BEATEN CAPITOL POLICE, POOPED ON THE CAPITOL WALLS and USED WEAPONS!

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          I’m sure black people didn’t foresee how standing next to white supremacists was in any way helpful during WWII, or capitalists standing next to communists, or Christians standing next to Muslims, but it was necessary.

          It’s basic history. You’re going to have to figure out how to stand with people you don’t like very much, as much as you enjoy the ‘leopards ate your face’ jokes.

          Though after the last six months, I imagine Democrats would rather hide in a bunker making ‘leopards ate your face’ jokes or writing sternly-worded letters than actually defeat fascism anyway.

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            11 days ago

            Your analogies make sense if you identify a common enemy. We do not have a common enemy. They are directly supporting the enemy.

            If you have anything more concrete to point to to explain your point I’m absolutely stumped.

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      12 days ago

      Most honest US politician says unlimited force to protect his elevated position is fine, but the tiniest amount of force protesting that position is illegal terrorism.

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    12 days ago

    The funny consequences about labeling everything as an act of rebellion is that everything suddenly becomes an act of rebellion. The door opens and now we have to deal with rebels everywhere.

    ICE cant be everywhere getting everyone because there is a fucking rebellion, so that means there are captured rebels in court, on trail, with jurors … when the rebels start getting found not guilty by their local courts they are no longer rebels … what are they? Revolutionists.

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    Remember! They wouldn’t do this if they didn’t think they had to - this government action comes from a place of weakness, not strength.

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      No, they didn’t need to to this, LAPD was reported the protests as nonviolent before the national guard was deployed. This is the Lil Donnie’s personal revenge against LA and California, and I’ll bet it’s just the start.

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        God damn it, its not about controlling protests. Its about squashing resistance. They know that in LA county the cops are not going to help them detain people. They want to send people who DONT live there and have NO connection to the people and the place. So they are INDIFFERENT and follow orders. They are going to make an example of LA so no other city gets inspired by LAs resistance.

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        They need to do this to maintain authority and control. I don’t mean they need to do this for public safety or anything.

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          I am simply pointing out a fact: LAPD issued a report yesterday afternoon stating the protests were nonviolent. Take it or leave it tankie.

          • And? Liberal goldfish mind can’t remember all the nonviolent protests crushed in just the last couple years alone?

            Making this out to be “Lil Donnie’s personal revenge against LA and California, and I’ll bet it’s just the start” is why im calling you a lib. Like you think idf trump dies today that’s it? You people are out of your fucking minds when i see you say shit like it’s “about” “making him king” like jfc

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              Of course I don’t think this ends if he dies, and yes, I am aware of other peaceful protests getting crushed, I’ve been at of them myself.

              It’s very obviously more than just his personal revenge, but its a silver lining for him and yes, he does want to suspend election through marshall law, it’s in their published plan.

              Can we stop with the stupid personal attacks and talk about the facts like adults?

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          Because they’ve been slowly sounding out how much they could get away with for a long time: pushing the envelope a little bit further, seeing what the response is, and then pushing it some more then they see they can get away with it.

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      This is likely a part of the Authoritarian plan, as opposed to a response to loss of control.

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        It’s not about a loss of control, it’s about maintaining control to prevent a loss of control. They don’t want another BLM summer.

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          I still think that they have been looking for an excuse, in order to change the paradigm in a fundamental way.

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      They don’t have to, though. There’s a vast army of pigs in California. Way more than enough to handle protests of this scale.

      They’re doing this because they want to.

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        They know that as the empire continues to fall and their overreach begins to affect more lives, protests will grow.

        The standard pigs can handle what we have now, they can’t handle what is to come.

        Whether this move is to pre-empt a coming change of the “big beautiful bill” that guts medicare/medicaid and other social programs, an even broader “sweeping net” policy on immigration, direct hostilities with Iran/China, something else, or all of the above…

        They are predicting a broad national outrage over something.

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        A few protests can be handled by cops, what they’re scared of is a repeat of the BLM uprisings. They’re trying to get ahead of the problem before it spreads to every city.

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          BLM spread because of police brutality and overreactions. If they are trying to “get ahead of it” by escalating into extreme violence quickly it will only escalate the protests faster.

          The way to “get ahead” of BLM and actually subvert it is to do what Joe Biden and the Democrats did. Coopt the peaceful elements of the movement into the corporate, NGO and DNC controlled sphere, alienate and isolate the radicals, give promises of reforms and then never do anything. Every heavy handed thing the Trump administration did only made the protests in 2020 worse for them and empowered the radicals.

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            I didn’t say it would work, I’m just saying that this is their plan. Make people too afraid to protest.

            That’s clearly their plan for the anti-genocide protests, after all.

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        Some of the cities are sanctuary cities and the mayors have ordered the local PD to stand down and not join ICE/DHS.

        Bringing in the National Guard is a way to circumvent that and get ICE reinforcements without having to do the slow legal confrontations to dismantle what’s left of sanctuary cities