Waking up to a quiet, clean house every day, with no children.

No.

It’s over. Trump is never going to be held accountable for any of it. In a few years he’ll die peacefully in his bed like Kissinger did.

I wouldn’t be surprised.

You should be saying: “Fuck Kamala Harris”

The Dems knew from day one that the economy was the most important issue to voters, because the vast majority of them are working 2-3 jobs just to barely make ends meet.

So what did they do? They ran a clearly brain-damaged candidate, and when he imploded on live national TV, they subbed in Harris, who spent two months just telling people suffering to be joyful, as if it weren’t only condescending, but terribly bad policy and campaign strategy. Here in Missouri the $15 minimum wage passed overwhelmingly, but Harris decided to cosplay as a moderate Republican and talk about tax cuts that no one actually thought she’d follow through with anyway, because they’ve spent the last four years being ignored by Joe Biden.

And they kept harping on Trump’s weirdness, as if they haven’t already observed that voters do not care how weird he is.

Jill Stein and Ralph Nader didn’t make these crappy political decisions.

The Dems did.

There’s certainly a lot of blame to lay at the feet of “both sides bad” people who didn’t vote

No. Absolutely not.

The Democrats and Republicans have spent 40 years, but more importantly, the last six months making it very clear that losing a badly-needed day’s pay for a worker isn’t worth the time it takes to vote. (Unless you were in Missouri with the $15 minimum wage on the ballot.)

Democrats are the reason that Democrats lose.

I’m sure that’s true too, but that’s not the reason she lost.

Democrats haven’t been ceding male voters to Republicans for 16 years because they hate women. It’s because, in the liberal and activist communities, it’s become customary and accepted to treat men like shit.

Exactly. Harris was tasked with defending and indefensible record. It’s that simple.

It’s simple, and history has borne this out many many times.

In a bad economy, no one cares about your politics if you’re the candidate of change. There’s a reason why Harris spent two months repeating memes instead of defending Biden’s policies, because it’s impossible to defend the fact that you had four years to rule and there are more people working 2-3 jobs just to survive.

They knew they needed to appeal to workers. Instead, they spent most of the campaign repeating this meaningless platitude about joy to people who are being worked to death.

I will do good where I can with my own two hands.

And will keep investing hard in the stock market. The stock market wins no matter who’s in charge.

Agreed. Those fuckers are rich enough to treat workers fairly. Full stop.

Well first we need an overwhelming blue wave so the GOP in its current form collapses.

I don’t know where you’ve been for the last 40 years, but the Democrats are not a progressive party. Look at all of the things that happened when Biden had power that they did nothing meaningful to stop: Roe repeal, cop cities, 2+ trillion for war, child genocide in Israel, rent/grocery/energy bills skyrocketing.

You have to ask me to ignore the daily realities of my life under Joe Biden in order for me to honestly assume Kamala or Trump will do anything meaningful to help people.

Are you really ignoring that, no matter who we elect, we get conservative politics?

Thank you for the reply and the info. I’ll read up on them.

There is no viable candidate

I’ve seen this phrase thrown around a lot this year, which is funny to me, because the ruling parties spent most of this election season stage managing campaign appearances for men who are obviously cognitively impaired.

That said what matters most is the down ballot.

100%.

Here in Missouri we have an abortion ban and a $15 minimum wage on the ballot, so no matter who you support, your vote makes a huge difference in this election.

At the federal level, none of us have any power, because you get presented with two flavors of the same choice, both of whom have been installed by the 0.01% and will actively work against the interests of the poor and working class; However, in your town, city, and county, you do have tremendous power for change.

What split the leftists was that time when the Democrats used superdelegates to rig the primary against Bernie Sanders. Nothing kills the Democratic vote more than telling democrats their vote is useless in historic fashion, and in fact, he’s the last candidate Democrats had that could actually connect with people in a tangible way.

I’ll tell you.

Jill Stein. If she’s not on the ballot in your state, write her in. She’s the candidate of the Green Party.

It takes minimal effort to look up the 3rd party candidates in a presidential election.

They are an anti-democratic sham.

We saw that twice with how the Democrats treated Bernie. And when the DNC was sued for it, they argued publicly in court in Florida that it’s their right to rig primaries.

The question isn’t “Will the third party voters stop commenting after Nov. 6?”

The question is “Which side will blame third party voters for the shitty campaign their candidate ran?”.

And both are going to ignore that they literally spent most (or all) of election season running a candidate that was obviously cognitively impaired.

Monstrous. Just monstrous.