Fast-food chain Chick-fil-A has sparked a social media backlash after announcing that it will soon allow certain antibiotics in the chickens it raises, citing supply issues.
Chick-fil-A restaurants in the U.S., Canada and Puerto Rico will transition “from chicken raised with No Antibiotics Ever (NAE) to chicken raised with No Antibiotics Important to Human Medicine (NAIHM), starting in the spring of 2024,” the company said in a statement posted on its website this week.
Still hatin’ teh gheys tho
Maybe they should try making it good.
Soggy salty chicken sandwich was fine in 2003 when everyone else was doing dry chicken sandwich. Now the meta is crunchy and juicy chicken sandwich so CFA is just mid.
Maybe they could just go away
“In a statement to Reuters, Chick-fil-A said the policy change was due to challenges it foresees finding chicken supplies that “meets our rigid standards.””
So, clearly, the solution is “lower your standards”? 🤔
taking care of their chickens is not lowering their standards, its raising them
I think that’s the trick though, they aren’t “their” chickens. They’re buying them from 3rd party vendors.
If they wanted to be serious about quality, they’d set their own standards and raise their own chickens.
The in-n-out system. Most of their meat comes from their own farms and processing facilities.
This is also why they’ve expanded incredibly slowly compared to most fast food chains
That god they don’t actually have to do that to have chicken standards.
I mean, consumers are proud to lower their standards all the time.
I don’t see why this would be any different.
I mean, lowering standards is a pretty common solution. A friend of mine who was a firefighter said they wanted more female firefighters - so they lowered test standards so they were able to pass.
This is completely off topic, but here’s some facts for you, from someone who works at a fire department.
Those physical fitness tests were pretty arbitrary. They don’t have much basis in the job itself.
At most departments, physical fitness tests are for the application only, and a LARGE percentage of current firefighters couldn’t pass them just a few years later.
There are many, many jobs a firefighter does, and most of them do not require massive amounts of physical strength.
Firefighters deal with the public, and often in a medical capacity far more often than an extinguishing fire capacity. Having female paramedics available to run medical calls is very important for the community. This is the same for having a mix of employees from all socioeconomic groups that are in the area.
There are a LOT of fire departments that are switching to a more fair entrance criteria, and that is making the job better, not worse.I know you’ve just kind of had a knee jerk reaction here, but I don’t think women should be restricted from that field ya know…I’m perfectly okay with it.
People will die because of it, but hey…women firefighters! WOO HOO!
You clearly don’t think that.
I literally just told you what I think, and nobody could know that better than me, but…sure.
If you can’t tell though – I was clearly being facetious.
Not sure if you’re a sexist asshole or referring to tests that were originally made to be sexist/racist to only prefer a specific type of person, like the Jim Crow Literary tests that were purposely difficult and confusing to stop black folks from voting.
Evaluations for firefighters have physical requirements. It is a physical job, men and women do tend to have different biological characteristics.
They were test to assure safety of human life, and women couldn’t pass them. So they lowered them. The biggest one was being able to carry a person of a specific mass out of an area within a specific amount of time, with all your gear on, in a smoke filled room. Few men were able to pass it, and almost no women. So they lowered the amount of weight and upped the time limit. Sometimes even just flubbed the women passing so they could reach diversity goals.
People will die because of it, but hey…women firefighters! WOO HOO!
Now the thing that’s really sexist, is denying sexual dimorphism exists within the human species.
Women firefighters are currently fighting wildfires in my state and actively saving lives. Get fucked, chauvinist
That’s great! I never said I had a problem with that. For the women who can legitimately pass the test, that’s wonderful!
That’s the thing that’s really sexist, huh?
If the other choice is make less money then it’s obvious what corporations will do
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Popeye’s chicken sandwiches are better.
How u have time to gaf about fast food?!?!
He asks as he gaf about some random Lemmy comment lmao
No they aren’t and I feel bad for anyone who thinks so just because of this comment.
If the cooking oil is fresh, this is 100% true. That fucking sandwich is a banger.
The hard part for me is finding a Popeye’s that has fresh cooking oil. : (
Should’ve raised prices.
I don’t get the popularity of Chick-fil-A. Bland sandwiches and little variety.
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Right wing chicken chain has loyal right wing followers
This is the only explanation that makes any sense.
That they do not. My brother, a staunch Trump supporter who actively would spend money at CFA over their donations to anti-LGBT groups in the 2010s and banned his kids from going to Starbucks stopped letting his family eat at CFA over having a DEI officer.
To your edit, yes. This is Lemmy. Very strong echo chambers and if you don’t agree, you are wrong.
This place is getting worse by the day.
May 2023 and first I heard of it. I think this one got no attention.
I prefer “Dave’s Hot Chicken”. Large boobs, and lots of spice.
Seriously. It’s like being in love with average quality.
In my city, the dive bar makes better chicken sandwiches. How depressing that people live like that.
Reliable/consistent, fast.
No one gives a shit about the politics of the company outside of the permanently online
The peach milkshake slaps but the food sucks. Popeyes is better for God’s sake.
Of course I stopped going entirely after they said they stopped donating to LGBTQA+ groups and then got fucking caught doing it yet again so yeah fuck Hate Chicken
Yeah, I mean, their stuff is okay but pretty unexciting IMHO. They might be inexpensive, kinda the Taco Bell route.
They’re not inexpensive.
Taco Bell isn’t that cheap anymore. I ate there not long ago for the first time in years and it was over 10$ for the basic taco combo, not even Supreme. And they sucked. They were almost completely devoid of fillings. They are on my eternal shit list now.
It is pretty much the pinnacle of “white people fried chicken”. American KFC (because Asian KFC is godlike) comes close but so many people never grew up beyond eating chicken tenders and bones scare them.
So you have inadequately seasoned chicken tenders soaked in pickle juice and people lose their minds.
And the strong focus on Christian Values, err, “Good service” means that nobody will ever be faced with the horror that is the realization that their satisfaction is not the only reason that someone is working in fast food.
For me, their menu hits the perfect spot of being simple yet flavorful. But the big thing is consistency. CFA is the only major fast food chain I can go to where the line moves incredibly fast and my order doesn’t get fucked up. Even with customizations. And it’s the same experience regardless of location, airports included.
Not enough fast food places have good salads, or healthy options in general. Their Cobb salad with either a sliced spicy chicken fillet or nuggets hits like a salad you’d get from a decent cafe.
First off, remember it’s fast food, standards are abysmal.
But it’s an actual piece of chicken, that’s actually prepared correctly.
If you got it in a sit down restaurant or even pub, you wouldn’t comment on it.
But compare it to any other chicken sandwich you could get from a drive thru in the last 20 years and the hype makes sense.
No matter where you are, if you see a chicfila you know you’ll get a decent chicken sandwich that isn’t ridiculously expensive.
A burger place isn’t going to do chicken as well as a dedicated chicken place, and KFC is a joke, so the only real competition for that niche is Popeyes on a national level.
I guess you can still call it good but they switched to Tyson on the East Coast like 10 years ago and yeah it’s bland and generic.
KFC in North America could learn a thing or two from KFC in China. It’s their McDonald’s.
If juicy=flavorful then sure, it’s flavorful. I look for more though.
Dave’s Hot Chicken would like a word with you.
It’s also pretty expensive
Well if there was one within a thousand miles of me Maybe it could
Popeye’s is better. I’ve had Chick-fil-A once (bought for me) and it was exactly what it looked like: a chicken sandwich. It was a bit bland and watery.
Let me guess, someone bought it for you, let it sit in a bag for an hour, and then gave it to you…and you judge the entire franchise off this one experience
That’s a fucking weird guess. No. It was a client on site and Chick-fil-A was about 5 minutes gotten the road. It would be weird for my client to have ordered mine an hour before the fifteen people I was training.
My question is…why the fuck are you so defensive of a mediocre fast food chain?
Because it’s good chicken, and I think it’s hilarious that the groupthink has extended to where people are pretending it’s not, because that’s better politics.
Fast food also varies so much across the US. I talked up Chick-fil-A so much after having it in Texas, and then when I brought my girlfriend to one in Florida it was garbage.
in Florida it was garbage.
I’ve identified the issue…
One thing I do like is that they have (the option of) whole grain buns… I’ve been unable to find that elsewhere.
Twenty years ago? Probably?
Ten years ago? Doubtful
But the past few years have seen most of the fast food fried chicken places go hard on chicken sandwiches. And even mcdonald’s has stepped up their game to being actually pretty decent.
Mostly chikfila just coasts on their recognition from 20 years ago and the zealots who refuse to try anything else.
Incidentally you can tell which universe a person is from by how they spell Chik-fil-a
You spell it the way it was spelled in my original universe
It has a conservative Christian cult following due to the founder’s political and religious views.
No it doesn’t. It’s just generally immensely popular.
No, it’s both.
Yep. It was popular before that information was spread far and wide. After the information spread a certain group of people are now die hard fans.
They don’t give a shit about LGBT lives, but they sure do give a shit about antibiotics… I’ll give you a single guess as to why.
Turns frogs gay?
Extremely gay
Your forgot expensive too.
Everything is expensive now
You are right. I’m going to cry in a pillow now
I’d cry in my pillow but I can’t afford one. Cries in late stage capitalist pre-apocalyptic dystopian Zeitgeist
I think you’re just being contrarian.
Their fries didn’t even have salt when I tried them
I’m thinking that this homophonic fast food restaurant does not warrant the amount of comments in this thread. Yes I am aware of the irony of my commenting.
Making sure the chickens stay healthy is perfectly reasonable. Particularly if the antibiotics aren’t necessary for human medicine.
making sure the chickens stay healthy*
*profitable
The antibiotics are used so that the chickens don’t contract infections and die from living in inhumane conditions.
This change allows them to increase their profit margin at the cost of animal welfare.
The article specifically said they’re only going to administer antibiotics to sick chickens and those in close proximity to sick chickens, not generally as a preventative.
“A chicken in house 7, row 15, cage B2769G72 was seen with pus buildup around its clipped beak. Destroy and incinerate that one and administer antibiotics to the rest of the chickens in row 15”
That’s zero sum, from the chicken-life perspective.
Die of infection or die by slaughter, their life isn’t changed by the variable in context.
Lol suffering means nothing! Us humans are gonna die at age 80 anyways. Might as well suffer for my adult life instead of living a happy life, what’s the difference, right?
My goodness, the lack of empathy for living creatures is just fucking wild. You can slaughter something AND not want it to lead a terrible life until its death, ya know.
Humans are clearly on a different territory from factory born animals for slaughter.
Again, antibiotics do not change their lived experience because they get no changes in conditions in return. Antibiotics are just for human profit
I’m afraid your sarcasm and irony were unclear despite the words used. But please correct that or me.
If you think antibiotics are to reduce animal suffering you’re deluded. It’s only to not let them die at inopportune times for the profit machine. The animals in factory farms are already experiencing suffering being belief and an early death is an escape.
I am not a proponent of routine antibiotic use in any animals (including us humans), unless it’s called for as in actually saving someone’s life.
I was caught at one of these moments where I wasn’t sure whether it was sincerely meant or humour, and tried to be mildly sarcastic about it.
Edit: Double checked. Thumbs up now.
Ah yes, nothing about your entire existence matters if the way you died wasn’t in an approved fashion.
Shit even if you just look at it in terms of the quality of the meat a stress free well fed animal will taste so much better than one that’s been stressed out its entire life fed literal garbage.
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It won’t be noticeable.
They only started doing “no antibiotics ever” in 2019 so this is basically only reverting back a change they just made a few years ago.
“citing supply issues.”
When a business “cites” anything, they really mean “we think we can make more money doing this.”
What’ll be funny about this is when they look at it having no impact on sales, so they just keep it.
They are facing a genuine supply issue. A different company made a sudden move because they wanted to maximize profits.
Tyson, one of the main chicken processors, killed their no-antibiotics program at the end of 2023. They moved from claiming meat came from chickens that had had no antibiotics used (NAE) to claiming no human-relevant antibiotics had been used (NAIHM).
The rest of the market can’t meet the demand for NAE, at least not in the short term.
“citing suppy issues”
Hmm… our supply of cash would be bigger if we cut corners over here. The thought of the potentially bigger cash pile is now bothersome to me.
Go to a different chicken place if you don’t like their changes. Or you know, make your own chicken at home.
OR GO VEGAN. Just for a moment THINK about this. They are using antibiotics that WE need, to make your bloody nuggets. Try tomorrow to eat less meat.
No…they’re specifically using antibiotics we don’t need for people. It’s cool if you want to advocate for veganism, but make sure you’re being factually accurate when you do so if you want to be taken seriously.
Eat their lies
Vegan products claim to be free of all animal ingredients and animal by-products. The term “vegan” is not regulated by FDA but is understood to have certain meaning in the marketplace. It is possible that a trace amount of an animal product such as dairy could end up in a vegan product
Eat the lies, indeed.
Is that the best you can come up with? There maybe traces if animals in your food so ner? Mate there maybe traces of vegetables in your food so your arteries might stand a chance!
The point wasn’t that there might be animal parts in the food. The point was that it’s ridiculous to say a term with a legal definition is a lie while advocating people replace it with a marketing term with no legal definition. But Har Har fat joke, I guess?
You don’t have to be fat to get clogged arteries from eating too much sausage Jimmy.
Mostly true, but also the excessive use of antibiotics in animals reduces the efficacy of antibiotics in humans over time via resistance. So, kind of a distinction without a difference. I’m not a vegan, by the way, or even a vegetarian, but I do try to limit my meat intake for a number of reasons - ethical, environmental, nutritional, and medical.
I mean, in this case they claim to be using antibiotics that wouldn’t necessarily be useful to people which is probably true. However they would be useful for local bird populations to avoid getting the stronger strain of avian flu or whatever survives against the antibiotics.
Fuck chikfila, and fuck you if you spend your money there. Fucking bigots
Hey now, the chicken don’t taste homophobic.
are you regularly tasting homophobes to the point where you feel qualified to make that statement?
According to the Good Place if you eat their sandwich it means you hate gay people.
if you’ve bought anything there then you are contributing directly to people who fund and support the anti-lgbtq+ movement so yes, you cannot be a customer there and also support these social movements
While I agree with the stance that Chick-fil-a should be boycotted, I think declaring those who dont incapable of supporting lgbtq+ social movements only hurts said movements. Its not a zero sum game, and alienating potential allies is a losing strategy.
Plus, at least as an American, its damn near impossible to survive without spending money on products that caused harm somewhere along the line. Dont be so quick to throw stones, all our hands are soaked with blood, most of us are just too busy to notice.
Ironically enough, they hire shit tons of LGTBQ+ people in my area and the LGBTQ+ crowd fucking stans them.
So strange that a fast food chain would are haters and popular
