Tesla can't find buyers for the current backlog of nearly 2,400, or $200 million worth of Cybertrucks, despite claiming over a million orders were received.
  • Null User Object@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Many Cybertruck owners reported trying to trade-in the truck for a new vehicle

    It only came out in November 2023! They’re already trying to trade it in? Seems like that’s it’s own sign of problems.

    Some owners who have had their trucks in service for extended periods of time

    NOVEMBER 2023!!! Nobody has had a one of these dumpsters for an extended period of time!

    • Takumidesh@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      It’s pretty common for wealthy people to trade in their car every year or two, keeping in mind that a cyber truck is 80k+ the demographic is people who can afford to always have a new car.

    • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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      11 days ago

      Nobody has had a one of these dumpsters for an extended period of time!

      I mean, yeah, okay, but even a few weeks is an “extended period of time” for a brand new car to be in service.

    • futatorius@lemm.ee
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      11 days ago

      Nobody has had a one of these dumpsters for an extended period of time!

      Multiple milliseconds in some cases.

  • kreskin@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    I imagine Trump will buy the useless cyberdumpsters and give them to cops to use. They are such badly engineered and frequently broken POS’s I wouldnt even mind. Let “law enforcement” deal with them.

    • Novaling@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      10 days ago

      So much crazy shit has happened this year that for an honest second, I was dead set in believing this was real. I feel like there are some people that are this desperate. But unfortunately I’m cursed with the power of reading for more than 10 seconds.

  • paultimate14@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Definitely sucks for the people who thought they were doing the right thing by going electric and ended up driving Swasticars.

    I know there’s an argument that those folks should have known what they were in for by the time the Cybertruck in 2023, but some people just don’t pay much attention to current events.

    I drive a Subaru and couldn’t tell you who the CEO is, although in retrospect perhaps I should have done more research before buying. But even without looking I can guess that it’s some shitty billionaire who donated heavily to both the GOP and DNC. Subaru itself has a history that involves… Being a Japanese manufacturer during WW2.

    You could also look at the Nazi Henry Ford and all of those gigantic pickup trucks clogging the US while also buying fossil fuels. It helps that Henry Ford is long dead, but are they really that much better than Cybertrucks?

    I mean morally. Objectively, Cybertrucks are just badly designed and manufactured vehicles but that’s separate from my point. Although if I may also rant- we already know that he used the Boring company to purposely sabotage high-speed rail projects in the US. We know that he bought Twitter not to make it profitable, but to gain power over social media. When you look at Tesla- the QC issues, the labor relations issues, the missed deadlines, the proprietary charging connector, the complete mess of a car the Cybertruck is, and how he is now very actively supporting a president who seems to be trying to destroy EV’s and prop up fossil fuels… Was Elon EVER actually trying to push EV’s, or was he actively trying to sabotage them? I know this is borderline conspiratorial thinking, but a lot of his madness seems to make a lot more sense in that context.

    • futatorius@lemm.ee
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      11 days ago

      You can’t participate in the capitalist system and have clean hands. It’s moral compromises all the way down.

      • paultimate14@lemmy.world
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        11 days ago

        Oh yes I see I got distracted and didn’t get to my conclusion: perhaps it is unwise to ostracize the creations of evil people and evil corporations.

        The Cybertrucks are here. I don’t want to toss a bunch of EV’s (even bad ones) in a landfill prematurely just because the CEO is a fascist.

        • LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee
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          11 days ago

          I don’t want to toss a bunch of EV’s (even bad ones) in a landfill prematurely just because the CEO is a fascist.

          This is a fair point but I would say specifically for the Cybertrucks that it might be best to salvage the batteries and electronics and scrap the rest. They’re built so poorly when I come across one while driving at speed on the road I either hurry up to pass it or slow down and let it get well ahead.

          If Nader was going to write a sequel it would be about the Cybertruck.

  • podperson@lemm.ee
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    11 days ago

    Love to see it! Good time to post my recent Tesla story: family member passed away a year ago and I got their car - older Tesla Model S that was in mint condition and had free charging for life. So I had a free car and could essentially drive it for free (ignoring insurance). Lot of nice features on it, but was clear that Tesla doesn’t do the basics of car building very well. Bit noisy, a rattle here and there, exterior trim pieces that are a little loose, and window seals that drip when you go through the car wash. Not even going to go into their software, which is pretty shitty. Basically a lot of things that look nice at first glance, but kinda janky when you look more closely. Nuts that that was a $100k car when purchased new - doesn’t seem to fit with reality. Anywho, I listed it for a while on Craigslist because I wanted off of the Tesla rollercoaster (for loads of reasons - Elmo, future stability of Tesla which is unknown, and having the weight around my neck of a car that I might not ever be able to get rid of in the future). Played the Craigslist game for a little while and then decided because of the tariffs coming to just go the trade-in route. Went in and traded it for a Mach E, which so far, I’m liking. Seems like a better-made car all around, is just as fast as the Tesla, and has more bells and whistles for half the price. The Ford dealership was starting to look like a Tesla dealership - the salesman said that loads of people were doing the same thing I was, including him - he had one but still had a loan to pay off but he wanted to swap his as well. He said he didn’t want my car but was willing to take the trade in to make the sale, so worked out for me. What was also great is that the Hands Off protest was happening the same day right in front of the dealership (Tesla was a block up), so we listened to the sweet sounds of shouts and car horns while we did paperwork. Good stuff.

    Should also note that with the exception of the Cyberdumpster owners (probably beyond help), just remember that there are lots of Teslas on the road and each of those drivers have a different story. I’m all for civil disobedience (it’s definitely needed right now), but many of those owners just aren’t in a position to sell/burn/destroy/dump their Tesla. Cars are expensive, and now more than ever, we’re probably going to need to drive them as long as possible to get our money’s worth out of them. I was in a lucky situation with mine so I could get rid of it, but just have compassion for those who can’t.

    • BreadAndThread@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      I was part of the Tesla Takedown and can confirm there were a lot of tesla drivers honking and supporting us. 100% of the cyber-dump-truck drivers were hateful.

      • anomnom@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        10 days ago

        It was clear who fElon was when the Cybercucks were actually for sale (for those that didn’t already know, or suspect he was a lying assmonkey years before).

    • futatorius@lemm.ee
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      11 days ago

      Don’t vandalize Tesla drivers’ cars, they’re self-vandalizing. I hate redundancy.

    • tehn00bi@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      Oh, I’d like to hear more about the Mach-e. I’ve only seen a few, but they look decent enough.

  • Hellsfire29@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Imagine fire bombing Teslas and keying them just because you don’t like Musk. How sad and cult-like is that. Domestic terrorism must be worth the 20 year sentence just to hurt Musk indirectly but at the same time, most likely harming your fellow Democrats who drive the ELECTRIC VEHICLE. The man who helped popularize the EVs is now your enemy. The same EVs that Biden pushed a mandate for.

    That is a cult. There can be 2 different cults, ya know. The one you’re in, and the one you despise.

    • GaMEChld@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      Imagine selling EV’s to a group of people then surprised Pikachu facing when you turn your back on them and tell them they are infected by empathy and a “woke mind virus.”

      Imagine being so full of yourself that you Nazi salute away your entire international sales because guess what, the rest of the world doesn’t think it’s funny either.

      Imagine.

    • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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      10 days ago

      1. Not everyone who opposes Trump and Musk is a Democrat, especially on Lemmy. Many of us are leftists who despise Democrats, just less than we despise MAGA fascists.

      2. Don’t think a lot of cybertrucks are being driven by those on the left, they weren’t released until well after Musk showed his true colors. Every cybertruck owner I’ve personally encountered has been solidly MAGA.

    • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 days ago

      This relates to the “zigzagging spikyness” you often see with the stock market. Each time a stock falls, many people are going to ask themselves “Hey, do I think that other people are wrong about this property being worthless? Maybe this is a good chance to buy, before they bounce back.”

      There’s a mental appeal to the middle, it’s just a question of what the correct “middle” is. That’s also why many investors were cautioning people against selling during Trump’s week-long tariffs (of course, if you believe the USA is on its last legs, that may be a good idea). You’re probably seeing those purchases from those that feel the Tesla Takedowns will run out of steam, which is why it’s important to keep them up.

      (Reminder if you haven’t been to one…)

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    There was Dealership near me that had a bunch of their teslas keyed and damaged and smashed. Curious. Now that dealership can claim insurance money on the cars he can’t sell!

  • axh@lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    The whole internet seems happy about the “people” burning Teslas in protest. I am pretty sure they were all insured and given the terrible sales figures… please guess who is benefitting the most of that burning?

    • Snowclone@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      Insurance fraud is really hard to hide, that’s the first thing insurance companies investigate, particularly if the claimant is a car dealership. This has been a popular criminal activity for decades, my uncle used to pull this scam with his motorcycle club, they all got caught.

    • Jhex@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      This comment has no logic… yes, maybe Tesla itself is not at a loss due to vandalism here but insurance companies would drop either Tesla (the company) as a client or deny insurance to people buying Swasticars which would make the sales slump into a sales halt

      This is really bad for Tesla either way if you are willing to look 1 mm beyond

      • axh@lemmy.world
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        11 days ago

        You are right, but there probably is a “safe” number of Teslas that can burn, before insurance companies drop Tesla (or increase insurance prices to make it unprofitable).

        Insurance frauds, if not caught, tend to be profitable.

        Edit: I just want to add that I do not have any personal experience with insurance frauds… It’s just my little conspiracy theory… I won’t respond anymore, must go and make my first tinfoil cap.

      • axh@lemmy.world
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        11 days ago

        I mean Tesla. Just imagine, you have a lot of unsold cars and no hope that people will rush to buy them. If you lower the price, you will admit to shareholders that it’s not going well and maybe your company is not worth more than the next eight biggest car manufacturers combined… So you can’t lower the price, at least not enough to sell all those cars, they all take space, need some maintenance, slowly rust and lose value… Or they can just burn, and you can claim that it was all because of those far left terr… Right, someone mentioned that insurance doesn’t cover terrorism, so it’s all because of those damn leftist hooligans. You would probably sold all of them, but they were destroyed. Pinky promise.

        • Jhex@lemmy.world
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          11 days ago

          So you think the story “we can’t sell cars because half burn in the dealer and the other half won’t be touch by people in fear” is actually going to go well with shareholders?

        • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
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          11 days ago

          And the quarterly policy renewal goes up… a lot.

          I mean sure, he could run uninsured… but then he eats the loss now.

          • axh@lemmy.world
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            11 days ago

            I don’t know what insurance rules look like when you are a billion dollar business, but I would assume they have a much better negotiating position.

            I’m not saying that the renewal cost won’t go up, but I assume it won’t go up as fast and as steep as it would for us poor people.

            • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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              11 days ago

              You get better insurance rates as a large business because you have more collateral and have a larger contract. If it gets the insurance company more net money to give you a lower rate per item insured, they want that extra bit of income. Rather, the person signing the deal wants that extra bit of commission on a large contract.

              If what you’re insuring costs more than the contract value, they’ll 100% hike rates to make up for it.
              They’re in the business of betting that they’ll make a lot of profit while you bet they’ll only make a little profit. It doesn’t matter how much money you have, they’ll always arrange the numbers so that their worst case scenario is minimal profit.

              There’s no amount of money you can pay someone to lose money on a deal.

            • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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              11 days ago

              They do, but it’s not infinite lmao, insurance companies will either charge out the ass, or drop them regardless.

              I work at a very large company and you’d be surprised how many of the inconsequential or seemingly silly decisions made are rooted in insurance coverage.

    • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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      11 days ago

      Insurance doesn’t usually cover “acts of terrorism” so it will be funny if that’s how it gets classified.

    • Takumidesh@lemmy.world
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      11 days ago

      Having to make a ton of insurance claims is not a good thing.

      Eventually you become uninsurable, which is a lot harder to overcome than a sales slump.

  • IamSparticles@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    11 days ago

    My wife and I are in the market for a 3rd car because our oldest is driving to community college most days, leaving us down to one car between us. She wants an EV, so we’ve been shopping the local used lots. They all have DOZENS of Teslas, and they’re very eager to sell them.

    • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
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      10 days ago

      Well no, it won’t because people actually like the Delorian due to it being redeemed by one of the greatest time travel movies ever made.

      • pacology@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 days ago

        Here me out. What if they remaster back to the future and the plutonium guys at the beginning drive a cybertruck instead of the white truck?

      • VitoRobles@lemmy.todayEnglish
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        10 days ago

        We can make it happen with the Cyber truck!

        BACK TO THE FÜHRER starring Kid Rock as Marty and Musk as the Doc and the truck doesn’t make it.

        • frezik@midwest.social
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          10 days ago

          The suspension had to be raised to meet new pedestrian safety standards. This ruined the handling.

          They couldn’t get the engine they really wanted (a Mazda rotary) and had to go with a GM piston engine instead. Then, new US emissions standards hit and it had to be downrated to meet those. EU models were better, though engine design in general was kinda in the shitter around this time.

          People think it’s heavy because of the stainless steel, but those are thin panels over fiberglass. Its weight is in the same ballpark as what Ferrari was putting out at the time.

          The first alternator they used did not have enough power for all the accessories to be on at once. People got stranded at night because of this, including Johnny Carson (who was an early investor). These were upgraded later.

          Then there’s some manufacturing difficulties. The early models have creases embedded on each side of the hood. Forming the stainless steel that way often broke it at the factory. Later models have a completely flat hood.

          As the company’s finances dwindled, DeLorean himself was caught in an FBI sting operation where he was accused of selling drugs to try to keep the company afloat. This ended up being a setup by the FBI–with Larry Flynt coming to the rescue, of all people–but it plunged the company’s reputation even more.

          It was a shitty time to make a sports car. Lots of stuff happening at once that made them bad at what they are. Make it 5 years earlier or 5 years later and it’s an entirely different story. Even that might be generous; 1980s sports cars are known more for their angular looks than actual driving ability. It wouldn’t be until the 1990s that companies started to figure out how to work within the new regulations. Then you get legendary bangers again like the Supra MkIV.

        • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
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          10 days ago

          Mostly because it had a garbage engine. The one they used in the movies was modified with a much better engine.

        • frezik@midwest.social
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          10 days ago

          The DeLorean was 95% of the way to a brilliant car. The last 5% killed it with a combination of bad market timing and a few questionable parts selections. Most of those issues had been worked out after the first 3000 units, but the company’s reputation was in the shitter by then.

          The FBI sting was a complete hoax.

          There is no saving the Cybertruck. It’s poorly built, ugly, and comes from a company run by a narcissist.

        • Dasus@lemmy.world
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          10 days ago

          They won’t find a single one to film.

          On the global scale the Cybertruck is an incredibly niche American thing.

          It’s only ever sold 40 something thousand units since 2023. That’s ridiculously low.

          For comparison, Toyota sells some 11 million vehicles a year globally. And just in the United States, Porsche yearly sells some 70k units. That 40k Cybertrucks is from three fiscal years

          • joel_feila@lemmy.world
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            10 days ago

            Yeah but it is famous loke the pinto, anf easy to recognize loke the delorean, and easy to make a prop version of.

            • Dasus@lemmy.world
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              10 days ago

              Sure slapping a few pizza boxes together and painting it silver would make a convincing enough replica, but why would anyone bother?

                • Dasus@lemmy.world
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                  10 days ago

                  No no. Why would anyone bother to put one in their movies in 20 years?

                  That’s like saying they’d have people wearing Apple Vision Pro’s in 20 years. Why? Wasn’t a big product. Just an overhyped one which utterly failed.

                  Perhaps as a meme to how shit it is but it’s definitely not “iconic to the era”.

    • Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
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      10 days ago

      Probably not, the Delorean was pretty cool even when it was new, I believe.

      Also, a Cybertruck is massively complex, so keeping an old one running would be difficult.

      • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
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        10 days ago

        Pretty sure there’s probably a Killswitch built in so that it won’t run past a certain date without giving Tesla more money, so once the company tanks they’ll all be dead in the water.