- cross-posted to:
- cars@lemmy.world
- technology@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- cars@lemmy.world
- technology@lemmy.world
This is not that new.
Android auto would allow apps to play ads when the car was in park.
After using the ad support version of Pandora for most of a decade, when the full screen video ad popped up on my 2016 work truck, it was immediately and permanently uninstalled. I used 128gb microSD in my phone instead.
I’ve never used a streaming service for music again.
Yeah, that’s another thing that bugs me about products that can be remotely-updated and especially those which don’t currently represent an ongoing revenue stream. I think that it’s a broader problem, too, not just cars.
I was kind of not enthusiastic when I discovered that TenCent bought the video game Oxygen Not Included and started pushing data-harvesting updates into it via Steam. As things stand, that’s optional. But any company could do the same with other games and not have it be optional. If you figure that all the games out there that have already been sold aren’t actually generating revenue but do represent the option to push and execute code on someone’s computer, they have value to some other company that could purchase them and monetize that.
Then you figure that the same applies to browser extensions.
And apps on phones.
And all those Internet of Things devices that can talk to the network, cameras and microphones and all sorts of stuff.
There’s a lot of room for people to sit down and say “what I have is a hook into someone else’s stuff…now what things might I do to further monetize that? Or who might I sell that hook to who might be interested in doing that?”
Like, if I buy a product, all I can do when I make my purchasing decision is to evaluate the product as it is at purchase time. If the vendor also has the ability and right to change that product whenever they want, then what I’m actually buying is a pretty big question mark. And unless they’ve got some kind of other revenue stream on the line, their only real incentive to avoid doing so is the reputational hit they take…which for failing brands or companies, may not be all that large.
One constraint for efficient markets is that the consumers in it need to be informed as to what they’re buying. If they don’t have that property, you can get market failure. And a consumer can’t be informed about what he’s buying if the person selling them the product can change that product at any point after purchase.
We live in a world of no regulation (or, to be precise, no enforcement on regulations) but…
Holy shit? Stopping is the one time you actually SHOULD look at your infotainment screen to futz with climate control or check how many minutes until the next exit and so forth.
I would rip my screen off the dash
You can’t, they control major parts of the car and cost thousands to replace then they inevitably fail.
It’s over $10k in Australia for a Corolla infotainment system, the cars won’t drive without one, once the infotainment systems die in the future the cars are scrap metal.
Well technically you can block ads as long as your phone or other device that works as hotspot/Wi-Fi tethering has adblocker that runs on root level since car need network to connect it.
On root level adblocker nothing can escape even the sneakiest ads will got blocked (as long as your adblocker has feature like uBlock origin filters & you have matching filters)Pihole at home with a personal VPN (wireguard, tailscale, head scale, etc) that routes all your phone traffic through it.
Works pretty good, and you can always add additional blacklists if something still gets through.
Ad-free but perfect for profiling. This allows devices from the entire network to be assigned to at least 1 person. Wirehuard@home -> pihole (only allow the permitted connections to the device with pihole and no other access in the network) -> wireguard@trustworthyvpn.
Vehicles have their own modems now
Truly, we have left the era of irony and entered the era of farce.
Life has transformed into a Monty Python sketch.
“Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python
The group came to prominence for the sketch comedy series Monty Python’s Flying Circus, which aired on the BBC from 1969 to 1974.
No, I believe that that was paid for by the television tax in the UK, rather than interspersed advertisements, as probably most television is.
Peak irony is that the first ad shown is them trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty.
Article Summery:
In a move that has left drivers both frustrated and bewildered, Stellantis has introduced full-screen pop-up ads on its infotainment systems. Specifically, Jeep owners have reported being bombarded with advertisements for Mopar’s extended warranty service. The kicker? These ads appear every time the vehicle comes to a stop. Imagine pulling up to a red light, checking your GPS for directions, and suddenly, the entire screen is hijacked by an ad. That’s the reality for some Stellantis owners. Instead of seamless functionality, drivers are now forced to manually close out of ads just to access basic vehicle functions.
One Jeep 4xe owner recently shared their frustration on an online forum, detailing how these pop-ups disrupt the driving experience. Stellantis, responding through their “JeepCares” representative, confirmed that these ads are part of the contractual agreement with SiriusXM and suggested that users simply tap the “X” to dismiss them. While the company claims to be working on reducing the frequency of these interruptions, the damage to customer trust may already be done.
“you agreed to display ads on your vehicles. This vehicle is mine. You may not display ads in it.”
Honestly I’d have a lawyer on the phone in a heartbeat. I’d be surprised if someone hasn’t already started a lawsuit.
Burn Stellantis to the fucking ground.
Stellantis is fucking up so badly, they only have 1 car in top 20 here now. This is a Peugeot placed 19, but Stellantis used to have a couple in top 10! (Denmark)
It’s really sad, because they now also have Opel, which used to be a brand known for good quality, and I’m still rolling with an 18 year old Opel Vectra that is still going strong and drives almost as new, but this is a car from BEFORE Opel became Stellantis.
We are considering buying an electric soon, and there is NOTHING from Stelantis we are considering, because we have lost trust in them.
There are lots of bad stories with Stellantis cars here, cars breaking down and dealers not honoring warranties!! And extremely expensive repairs.
The only car that is worse is Tesla. With 30% failure rate at the 4 year legally mandated safety check!!The ad bubble needs to pop.
We need people to stop buying shit if they’ve seen an ad for it.
Somehow
I doubt that will do anything at all tbh.
Businesses believe advertising works, i believe it’s just a way for other businesses to substract money from them.
I keep getting ads for polestar cars like i can afford that shit, or gambling like it’s something i do regularly (never have and never will) or i get ads for the exact basket i just paid for 2 minutes ago as if i need another load of it (i don’t, obviously).
That can’t be safe.
Jeep hasn’t made a ‘safe’ car in their entire existence, why start now?
I just decided I’ll never buy a jeep.
These kinds of decisions are unilateral. You don’t go in this direction without that being the overarching goal.
Zero tolerance for this shit. Put ads in something I own, and I’ll sell it, trash it, never buy it again.
This should be a death rattle for any brand to even consider.
Fuck Jeep.
What was the one with premium subscription for heated seats? I think it was Mercedes.
…and I think Audi dabbled in this area but backed down.
Ao that’s Mercedes, Audi, and Jeep I’ll never buy from, and obviously Tesla too.
EDIT Oh dear, it’s so much worsethan I knew:
https://www.google.com/search?q=car+companies+with+subscription+services
TOYOTA how could you???
Subaru does this.
The seat subscription? I didn’t know about this
I have to pay for Subaru-brand OnStar before the heated seats are even an option. I didn’t know the seats were subscription when I bought the car, they just said OnStar was free for a year.
The subscription to heated seats was BMW.
Clearly, the problem is that they went with a pure subscription model instead of also having an ad-supported model. Like, supposing that you’re allowed to turn on the seat heater, but then the car starts playing advertisements while it’s running. They could offer a premium heat seater subscription if you want to buy an ad-free experience.
shakes head sorrowfully
They aren’t very innovative.
I’ll buy a jeep but it will have to be at least 20 years old.
20 is a funny way to spell 40.
Fuck it, I’ll only buy a Jeep that was used in D Day
All right, these are some pretty cool Jeeps.
I hate to make such a sweeping generalization (but here goes!), but many of the Jeep drivers I’ve encountered on the road have already brought me to the same conclusion.
You spelled concussion wrong
But… but Stelantis is working to reduce the frequency of the ads! Don’t you know that the company that implemented this practice is witerawally powerless to stop it, they’re doing everything they can to make this change (that they made) better for EVERYONE, because they understand our frustration and they care 🥺👉🏽👈🏽
We used to own a 2008-ish Wrangler, and it’s the single worst car anyone in my family has ever owned. There wasn’t one redeeming quality about this vehicle, except for that it makes you look like an asshole, and I apparently some people are into that
It’s a Jeep thing, you wouldn’t understand.
NFT ducks in a gacha system
Jeep still exists?
Completely unsurprising while at the same time completely unfuckingreal
I love my Jeep, but I couldn’t imagine why anyone would buy a modern one.