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So is this considered distracted driving?
No, it’s considered distracted stopping. /s
Same damn diffence in my book, fuck Jeep for that shit!
Disgusting. Why would anyone pay for that?
Just you wait until the windshields become screens as well. Full windshield ads baybe!
In USSR, despite all its downsides, there was a huge upside - magazines like “Техника - молодежи” and various educational brochures of the practical kind, aimed at explaining how to really make something.
And also a certain culture of hobbies associated with that, I guess all the energy from boredom went there.
So - I’ve read about competitions of hobby-crafted cars then. Like 20 guys would make some (like half of it would be something used in usual Soviet cars, think Reagan and the 10 years joke) parts of a car in their garages and apartments (and even at work, if they worked on some factory, for example ; in general workplace in USSR was, eh, a bit more permanent of an association, so the border between personal life and work, including tools, was fuzzy), then assemble them.
I think that could even be registered as a legal means of transportation. At least from what I’ve heard there is (or was) a surprisingly liberal part of Russian laws, allowing you to register almost anything as a car and get a number, with some criteria passed. Maybe these two things are related.
Easy, they call their cars something like renegade or maveric and some idiots pay 80k for that shitbox
On unrelated topics, I am now radicalized and I hope that capitalism falls violently
Don’t worry, our choice for each election is capitalism and cruelty free capitalism, it’s always been a matter of time.
It will always be the case that given enough time a capitalist will find a way to convince the public to vote against self interest just a little, and then the snowball starts rolling.
There will soon come a time when I am only able to shop for a new car at a junkyard.
Get a horse, gonna be cheaper it seems. And you don’t have to pay for heated seats haha
Have you seen the prices for oats these days!?
I completely crossed off all GM cars due to lack of CarPlay. I am boycotting Tesla. I don’t trust BMW because they tried to make heated seats a subscription. Now Jeep and Stellantis?
Toyotas are still good
Toyota Sales here Boy do I have some BMW Heated seat subscription crap to sell you
(Its not quite as bad as BMW. But one thing that really irks customers is the remote starter is restricted to a subscription service. unless you’re one of the lucky ones who got a vehicle that installed the wrong part/fuses. in which case you can still remote start your car with the fob. its still very finnicky)
I am still awaiting my first map update to my nav system that has free lifetime map updates, my truck will be 10 this year.
Something to consider…
Elon may be going down a conservative rabbit hole these days, but this is the sort of thing Tesla would never ever ever do. And things like using the telematic system to sell your location and speed to insurance companies. Never happened on a Tesla. You may not like the guy, but the cars are fucking solid.
Tesla? You mean the Ford Pinto of EVs?? https://www.rawstory.com/cybertruck-2671127676/
Doesn’t Tesla lock larger battery capacity begging a paywall?
the cars are fucking solid.
Try driving through a car wash without activating “car wash mode”. 😂
Rainbow road mode is a bitch
Tesla’s have their own privacy issues, and build quality issues . Tesla’s staff have been caught spying on their customers and sharing sensitive images of people .
That practice was halted and now the vehicle video is under MUCH stricter control with an option to not share any of it at all.
Given the choice, I’d rather have some Tesla employee joking about what I park next to than Tesla Inc selling my driving data to insurance companies like most other automakers do…Believing any of that means trusting President Elon Musk. I certainly don’t
Oh, he’s just going down a rabbit hole! He’s going on a cute little adventure where he does a fucking Nazi salute in front of the whole country, then proceeds to recklessly dismantle huge parts of the US government, but it’s all just part of his magical little journey! Teehee!
then proceeds to recklessly dismantle
huge parts ofthe US governmentJust give him a few more weeks.
Mercedes also includes a number of items as a subscription in some countries. Some stuff is app related. Others are things like getting full use of your rear-steering wheels and unlocking extra horsepower.
To be honest, I would just get an old car and fit a tablet into it
This only applies to GM EVs. Friend has a 2025 ICE Chevy which has both AA and CarPlay. Still dumb that the EVs don’t have it though.
Japanese manufacturers are not perfect but seem to be the least interested in doing this kind of anti-consumer nonsense, at least for now. I have been happy with every Mazda I’ve owned in the last decade (3 in total) for what it’s worth.
I just wish Mazda had a good EV. Their EVs just aren’t that good at the moment. I leased a BMW iX a few months ago, but my old car (which I still have) is a 2012 Mazda 3. Love the EV experience and I don’t think I’ll buy a gas powered car ever again.
Yup, Toyota has been solid for me. Though admittedly, they’re also one of the worst in regards to data privacy; You should assume that every single thing you do in a Toyota is being recorded and sent back to a Toyota server for ad/tracking purposes.
Lol what? Ur car got internet?
Just pull the OnStar /gps fuseMost cars have a SIM card with a very basic data/phone service. In many jurisdictions, it’s a legal requirement for cars to have a button to call emergency services, so they need phone connectivity for that. It’s also used for software updates, map updates, and of course, data collection.
Holy crap I feel old now. Since when? I’m still driving a car without a touch screen, and that’s never going to change.
I’m not sure how long.
My older car (2012 Mazda 3) didn’t have a touch screen. I replaced the radio with a touch screen Pioneer one that supports Android Auto. I’d definitely recommend doing that! It’s nice having Google Maps on an older car. The third-party radios tend to be better than the OEM ones (they have to be, otherwise nobody would buy them) and I don’t think Pioneer does data collection of any sort.
I’m on year 9 of my 10 year car plan. Current vehicle is supposed to become the kidmobile and I planned on a new one.
I won’t buy a new car though. If I do replace mine, it will be a used, unconnected car. I am so tired of iPads on wheels.
my 2008 BMW is the last without a computer screen and none of that stupid knob and I had to seek it out but it was absolutely worth it. Bonus that I can actually work on the car my self!
I think cars peaked ca. 2010. Anything added after that are annoyances or things being taken away.
If I could get a brand new facelift E90, that would probably be my next car.
A friend of mine bought a Jeep last year and it looked cool so we were thinking if this would be something for us as a next car.
But sadly I’m allergic to advertisement, so I guess a Jeep is out of question until they rethink it.
They have parts that you have to replace right away so you don’t get stuck too. There are definite drawbacks.
There are plenty of better vehicles that aren’t outrageously expensive just because they can be.
I don’t recommend anyone buy a Jeep, not because of the ads but because they’re built like shit. Quality has been in free fall for decades while prices have skyrocketed. Death wobble issues (Wranglers), motor reliability out the window, rust, more rust, just not worth it.
I owned a 94 Cherokee and I loved it, and even though that 4.0L straight 6 had problems at least it would still run with bad piston rings, mysterious battery drain and holes in my radiator. The new ones just can’t compete.
I’ma turn into chief clappahoe if some bullshit like that shows up in my horse & carriage
You don’t need to be allergic to advertisement to want avoid shit like this. The fucking audacity of companies these days. There is no place they won’t try to shove these damn things to the detriment of every product, service, and personal moment. If they could put screens under your eyelids you’d have to watch drug ads one blink at a time and your dreams would be sponsored by AT&T.
Yeah there’s a huge difference between advertisements in free media vs advertisements in a car you almost certainly had to get a loan to purchase
They’ll justify stuff like that by telling you they sold it to you at a discount price because the ads offset your costs. That’s what Amazon did with the cheap tablet I bought for my wife.
Buy used!
Jeep is a Stellantis product. Literally the worst quality auto manufacturer in North America. They are circling the drain and jacking up the prices on their vehicles and making Pikachu faces when they don’t sell. Their only customers are people who don’t know how to research their purchases, and putting advertisement hell into their cars is another example of that. I suspect they will not be in business a decade from now.
I had two Jeeps, first was originally my dad’s. It was an old shitbox. The other one was a somewhat old shitbox. 1998 & 2010. We dumped more time and money into them than I’d care to admit.
I work in the auto industry. Can confirm, Stellantis is in bad shape. I wouldn’t buy anything from them.
What’s confusing is that some great auto brands from Europe are under Stellantis (Peugeot and Citroen at least)
And they’re actually not doing a shitty job in designing or selling their vehicles. It’s mainly the Chrysler brands or basically the US brands under Stellantis. I seriously hope the shit happening in Chrysler doesn’t come trickling down to the other brands
Turns out regulations are good for businesses.
They’re good for longevity, but they’re bad for quarterly profits. In the US, we care much more for the latter.
Regulations are definitely excellent for both businesses and consumers in the long term. But businesses are often too stupid to see past ANYTHING “quarterly”.
“Either the Line Goes Up or the Rope Goes Up” - evil CEOs everywhere
That depends on the business culture and how good their advisors are. And also the size if the business matter.
But yeah generally angelosaxton companies who have a mangement structure that’s way more in depth than it needs to be fuck these things over
Peugeot and Citroën have their own issues in Europe (and technically in America) with the recall of car due to defective airbags.
Out of curiosity, who would you buy from?
Out of the American big three, I have the most confidence in Ford. I’ve worked with engineers at all three, and the ones at Ford are the ones that I felt were most compitent.
That being said, my next car will probably be a Toyota or a Subaru. Both way better than the American OEMs.
Jeep Renegade is a rebadged Fiat 500L.
It’ll be less than a decade
Roku was experimenting with similar stuff so I refuse to connect my Roku tv to WiFi. Will never update it
Ya, they’ve been getting bad press for a while now. Will never own one of those.
The TVs aren’t a bad value. Gotta get back the the jailbreaking days. If someone released a custom firmware for my Roku tv that made it dumb I would use it.
Anyone know any brand that doesn’t pull this kind of shit in their cars?
I bought a 2025 Kia Sportage before the new Trumpflation taxes went into effect. No ads at all. I would have been pretty damn mad to see ads. Weird that Jeep has decided to self destruct.
Self-destructing is their key feature.
1999 Honda Civic.
Sorry honey, I had to crash the Honda.
Who’s chopper is this?
It’s Zed’s.
Who’s Zed?
Zed’s dead, baby.
A bicyce at this point.
And the best part is you probably have local anarchists who want to help you learn to maintain it
Anything made before ~2015. You have a lot of great cars to choose from.
This is why used cars are so dang expensive, it seems like automobile quality has been in a free fall since 2008. The end user experience gets worse while the price goes up.
Early 2000s jap cars are unkillable, surplus of parts, and are not tracker spyware nests. Great little things for sure. My 90s turboed volvo is a far more temperamental beast, but I cherish her quirks :)
Right now my car is an 84. With a back up 86 truck. I used to have a 2011 subaru, but hit an prairie antelope with it. If I had my pick I think 1990-2008 Japanese cars are the sweet spot.
Aren’t those older cars absolute death traps in collisions compared to the newer ones?
No, The issue is with conceptions of auto safety becoming a selling point. For example look at the single biggest invention in reducing crash fatality? You would think maybe airbags, seat belts or ABS brakes… But nope, collapsible steering columns. But we are now sold “death proof” SUVs that are not really safer, in some ways worse. The issue is that safety devices have a diminishing return but fear is a great selling point, I would say there are old things that are death traps (like square body chevys) and things like saabs that I would say are to this day built safer then new cars. If we look at the data for auto fatalities per capita we can see that car safety has not had some magical jump since the late 80s but a more expected gradual change.
As a side note I do and have done a lot of driving and from what I have seen in the last 20 plus years is a slide into cars that are:
- Top heavy (bigger is not safer)
- Have little to no visibility (that then try to make up for with back up cameras)
- Are built not to avoid crashing but to make crashing more comfortable
- Have limited to no driving feed back and over reliance on things like traction control
- Make driving on the same road with them more dangerous (just look at north american headlights)
At the end of the day I would rather drive a car that I can see out of and has a degree of safety devices (seat belts, collapsible steering column, working brakes) then something that is built like a living room on low profile tires that I will at some point crash. Bonus points if it does not explode or catch fire easily (think pintos or teslas).
Everyone with the new LED headlights that feel painfully illegal in my eye sockets - they are the bane of my morning commute.
Yes, But this is my point. You are sharing a video from “CAR TV” who’s tag line is “Watch New Model Cars With Pleasure 🎬” Its very much selling the idea that newer is safer, but the data only shows a slight increase in safety (and nothing on rate of crashes old vs new). In the video they show the two cars crashing but no data at all, the 1998 one from what I can see looks non fatal (seatbelt held, engine block not in lap, steering wheel not impaling chest) but not only do they say “The test showed the driver of the older Corolla would likely have died as a result of the 64km/h collision” they also don’t show that data. Even when looking for sources I get almost no where, this stinks.
Oh and in the little write up they say “ROAD safety experts have renewed calls for drivers to get behind the wheel of newer cars after an unprecedented crash test revealed shocking results.” Why do they write ROAD in all caps? Is this a special interest group? A lobbyist? No idea I can’t even check since there are no sources!
I am not saying newer cars don’t have more safety built in, I am saying its a matter of finding what level you are comfortable in and to not get suckered into needless fear over your cars safety rating while the average driver does not even maintain their car’s brakes.
…not get suckered into needless fear over your cars safety rating while the average driver does not even maintain their car’s brakes.
Personally if my brakes are fucked I want all the other safety features I can get.
Enshitification.
Love my 2013 Honda. Haven’t driven anything newer
That’s newer then I would go but yeah at least Honda seems to be behind on the complete shit curve.
Holy shit. For the love of Luigi, this is terrorism.
It’s only terrorism when poor people do it.
They really do take 80s and 90s dystopian movies as inspiration. Almost funny how ridiculous unimaginatively evil that are.
Guess I wont stop then. Kids crossing the road? Too bad, I don’t wanna see the ads just because you have to get to the other side…
Hey, you might want to team up with Sony…
Want there also something about showing ads while your show is paused now too?
I’m ready to go back to kodi.
Depending on how long you were gone, don’t get real debrid btw.
What happened to real-debrid?
Happens on Prime now
Is this real?? Do you have the source?
Here you go
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sony-patent-mcdonalds/
Edit: I didn’t see the other comment, oops
I’m lost for words.
…what if the whole family is watching? Does everyone have to raise their hands and yell “McDonalds”? Including the kids?
This might just as well be used in “smart” fridges. “Do this corporate dance to get 20% off your next Corn Flakes”
There’s just no way I’m ever going to do this.
Honestly, I’d rather go forage for twigs and berries than interact with ads.
I haven’t seen an ad in like 15 years or so (at home) and i already find them incredibly dystopian and weird. I don’t really understand how people put up with that right now, but it kind of tells me that they would actually do the laola wave and yell pepsi at their screen. I found my old VHS collection the other day and watched karate kid that i recorded as a child. I think it had 2 ad breaks who were really short, and back then we thought that it’s getting a bit much with the ads.
You raise a good point.
I’m much the same in that I just refuse to watch anything with ads. They really are dystopian and weird.
I also get that same feeling when I see someone just grinding through youtube ads, but people that do that just don’t seem to have any awareness of the interaction - it’s just part of the show.
The weirdest of all is when people (usually brave browser enthusiasts?) try to claim that “some” ads are actually a good thing because it makes them aware of some product they actually desire which they wouldn’t have been aware of otherwise. I’ll take blissful ignorance thanks.
So yes, I can imagine people doing this stuff without really thinking about it.
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FTFY
I heard the new 2025 model wallops you in the bollocks every time you pull the parking brake.
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