I think we need to start breaking the law and self reporting. We’ll send in pictures of our junk spewing urine in the wrong room so they’ll be sure it’s a legitimate complaint.
Looks like they took the form down. If anyone has a new link, please post it. I’ve got some creative writing to share with the bigots in Utah.
As long as transwomen sit down when using the loo, they are more than welcome. I’m glad that snitch line drew up nothing. Imagine if they used those funds to fascilitate free hygiene products? But noo, they gotta harass a minority…
Coed bathrooms at college seemed to work pretty well, and even improved privacy in some ways.
- everyone washed their hands. Nothing like peer pressure to encourage that
- stalls had walls and doors
- urinals had little privacy walls line so many no longer do
So if I’m using a urinal and someone walked in, regardless who they were, all they see is some guy standing there. If someone uses a stall, regardless of who they were , I can probably tell that it’s occupied and maybe judge them for their shoes, but that’s it. What’s the problem?
Are you saying you’ve seen stalls that did not have walls or doors?
Yes. In which case I’ve always been able to turn around
We had mixed gender bathrooms in highschool, and they were fantastic. Clean, proper bathrooms, not stalls, and the students were responsible for cleaning them + the school weekly, so nobody ever trashed them. (There were two half-hour cleaning sessions each week, with some supplimental janitor help to keep things running smoothly)
Why does sitting matter? I’m honestly asking because I remember my twenties and about half my friends (women) would just hover over the toilet seat. We’re all in our 40s now so I can pretty much drop the percentage to 10% hovering based on complaints about knee pain lol
As someone who used to clean bathrooms for a job, please don’t hover. You make an insane mess.
Hard agree here.
I’ve hovered exactly once in my entire life. If the toilet lid has some pee on it, use the toilet paper. It’s not difficult. Women who hover are dumb.
Ok, not really my point, but I understand what you’re saying. I was asking why sitting to pee would be the thing that determines which gender bathroom you use. Then I just made an offhand comment about what it was like 20 years ago in women’s bathrooms because it’s funny to me that I knew so many people opposed to actually sitting down.
I certainly don’t agree that intellectual capacity could be effectively determined by how you use the bathroom, however. That seems silly.
Hovering is just as bad. Because standing causes small deoplets of urine to splash out of the toilet. Not unlike the mist at the bottom of a waterfall. By cleaning the toilet seat and just sitting down, a stall gets nasty slower.
It’s fine if the stall is horrible already, but if it’s clean, it’s better if we keep it that way.
Everybody seems to think they are going to get butt rabies if their butt touches the toilet seat nowadays. I swear it’s propaganda from big Toilet Seat Cover industry
Michael Scott’s Dunder Mifflin Scranton Meredith Palmer Memorial Celebrity Rabies Awareness Pro Am Fun Run Race for the Cure was not in vain!
Given the massive amount of things some women carry in their purses, and the plethora of choices in sanitizing wipes, I don’t understand why this isn’t solved already. If you’re afraid of butt rabies or see something suspicious on the seat, a quick wipe and you’re done. I understand most of us don’t want to carry more stuff but I’ll bet there’s a big overlap between people who already do and people who are afraid of butt rabies
Sorry, editing my comment because I can’t read apparently. Yes urine can splash out, but that doesn’t stop women from bringing their young sons into the bathroom to pee with them. Just clean up after yourself or before if there is an issue. I would hazard a guess that adult trans women would be more likely to clean up a droplet than a young child. Maybe we just use toilet seat covers if we want a barrier?
Also the worst offender is usually the toilet itself for splash back when flushing, in my years of urination experience.
I don’t get what you are trying to imply. I am aware that sitting down isn’t the only option to keep it cleaner for longer.
I know toilets can splash water on the seet. Large droplets aren’t the concern here. It’s the small particles that get out and stick to the seat, walls and floor. You can’t see it, but it does stink up the place.
As for kids, I sure af hope the women clean up after them too. My original commenr was not about whose the worst offender, it’s about being mindful and keeping the stalls clean.
Call and tell them you found the Golden Tablets.
only five were investigated
Can one sue Utah for gross neglience now? I mean, they got thousands of complaints from concerned citizens, and they only cared for investigating five of them? Or do they profile those complaints into “we are not investigating certain types of people”, e.g. politicians that have been reported?
Well, a huge chunk of those probably came from patriotic LGBT+ citizens cramming the reports with junk. Which is a good thing to do, but we wouldn’t expect them to do more than a cursory check.
Hey us allies helped out as well. I sent them my Fight Club Fan fiction.
Well, a huge chunk of those probably came from patriotic LGBT+ citizens cramming the reports with junk.
Of course. But they opened that snitchline with so much fanfare and claimed people using the “wrong” bathroom the end of the world. And then they only investigate five out of 12k reports. Now that sounds lame even for Republicans. What if they opened a snitchline on corrupt politicians? Will they only investigate five cases out of 12k reports? Such a snitchline would be much more important for society than reporting people using the wrong door. But chances are that they won’t open such a line for a number of reasons…
they may have had reason to believe the remaining complaints were not valid or not actionable or not in scope.
Maybe it’s my biases showing but while I can see the possibility that they’re not doing their job, only investigating a minuscule percent, I can also see possibilities that they were set up to fail, or that most complaints are obvious fakes or their scope is limited so most are not relevant.
I know I’ve never had reason to complain about the wrong person using the wrong bathroom. Have you? This really seems like a non-problem.
Of course im also on the side of fewer restrictions. Even back several decades ago when I was in college, the bathrooms in my dorm were coed, and we survived.
Realistically the only complaint I ever had was more age related. One time a Dad brought his kid in the changing room at the pool and did not use the curtained off area: she was really too old for that. She was clearly aware and uncomfortable being surrounded by naked guys - this could have been better handled. As a Dad myself, I let my kids go in themselves before that age so I mainly blame him being overprotective. Or at least I blame him for not using the curtained area that was right there that would have given her a little privacy
I’ve been in the men’s, had a women walk in and enter a stall, and didn’t give a fuck. We’re both adults. She either made a mistake or didn’t want to wait. Either way, it did not impact me.
I want to know how they “investigate” this bullshit. This is a complete waste of tax payers money…but since it’s from the party of small gov. And saving money its ok cause we have to know who’s got what equipment and going into what bathrooms.
All business’s should just swap all their signs over to unisex and be done with this bullshit.
This is a complete waste of tax payers money
A lot of those rulings are. But this would be fun to exploit to the bottom just to make it really hurt.
They review hundred of hours of hidden toilet cam footage. How else would you investigate?
It’s only 5 so far, reading the Bee Movie script takes a long time, especially when they have to keep stopping to sound out every other word.
They gave up at “aerodynamic”
It turns out that writing “cum” 420 times isn’t accepted as legitimate intel.
Preface: I don’t care at all what bathroom anyone uses.
But I do find it a bit funny that the headline mentions 12,000 complaints, but leaves out that only 5 of them were even looked into, lol.
Sensationalism is everywhere, I guess.
Interesting. I inferred that the vast majority were joke complaints to illuminate how absurd the hot line is just by reading the title.
Sensitivity is everywhere, I guess, lol.
Read the article. The rest were obvious jokes, and the 5 they thought may be “plausible” didn’t result in a substantive complaint.
Yes, obviously. Why did I even bother with that preface, people are just so eager to take everything in the worst possible way, lol.
I was just trying to alleviate any confusion, cuz your second line made it sound like maybe you thought the rest of the calls weren’t even listened to. Muh bad
Music to my ear and I wonder how much it costed them to comb through all of that.
Fun fact, costed is a word but has a slightly different meaning than the way you have used it.
Costed means to get the details on the cost of something complex. Like “I costed the three projects and the last one is cheapest”
You tried to use it as the past tense of cost, but the past tense of cost is also just cost.
Fun fact, ‘cost’ is a regular verb in Canadian English. Infering from the lemmy.ca instance, the comment op might be a Canadian, which means the usage of ‘costed’ is correct.
I am Canadian, and I was taught Cost as past tense in school and university. I’ve never seen it written Costed for past tense in any government publication either.
I love free English classes…
Learning is great, especially when it costed nothing!
Free education? Hell yeah brother!
I like OPs version better and chose to evolve the language that way.
Yeah; as a native and fairly well-educated speaker, I’m fucked if I can form the past participles of some of our verbs
If I swim across a river, is it now the swimmed river? Swum river? Swam river?
If I sneak into a room, have I sneaked? Snuck? Both sound wrong.
Didn’t find anything ambiguous about ‘costed’, it works for me.
If you swim across a river, it is now a river you’ve swum. If you sneak into a room, you have snuck in.
Those are correct but they look and sound wrong.
so if I understand correctly, the past participle of drag is… cabaret?
If only a very small handful of people make the same mistake, it doesn’t evolve the language, it’s just a mistake, plain and simple.
I know you’re just trying to make yourself feel a wee bit morally superior by saying that, but it’s the complete opposite of how language evolution works
It’s not a mistake if I can understand the message.
People have varying degrees of ability to understand outside of what they know, what is “good enough” for you might be incomprehensible to someone else.
It’s still a mistake, no matter whether yo cn undrstnd th sntnce
I prefer cost, not sure why but it just feels more natural and easier for me to say. But I am not a native speaker if it means anything.
As a straight guy, I have just walked into the wrong bathroom or chaises a kid into the wrong bathroom more times than I want to admit.
At first I thought “what kind of weirdo is chasing kids into bathrooms”, then I remembered that some people have children lol
People should keep submitting fake reports, and make them somewhat plausible. Just so they don’t get instantly discarded and can actually tie up more resources by actually getting investigated.
This is something an LLM is actually very useful for. It can make it sound both legitimate, be verbose and generate many submissions with little human effort.
LLMs are useless! Why is Apple integrating ChatGPT?!
“Why do you hate trans people?”
“But do you condemn Hamas?”
There’s a transgender Hamas activist in my bathroom!
Lucky!
Now I just have this image of someone taking a dump in an Applebee’s restroom and the stall next to them just starts shouting “Free Palestine” out of nowhere.
The employment of a large language model, such as the one utilized in this scenario, can prove to be remarkably advantageous. It possesses the remarkable capacity to transform the provided text into multiple submissions that convey an aura of authenticity, while adhering to the principle of verbosity. This approach allows for the generation of a substantial quantity of content with a minimal investment of human resources and effort.
Engaging the services of an advanced language model represents a highly valuable asset in this particular context. Such models exhibit the remarkable ability to reformulate the given input in a manner that not only maintains an air of legitimacy but also embraces the principle of verbosity. This capability enables the effortless generation of numerous unique submissions, thereby optimizing the utilization of human resources.
The utilization of a large-scale language model in this scenario can be deemed a highly effective and efficient approach. These sophisticated systems possess the remarkable aptitude to transform the provided text into multiple submissions that uphold a sense of legitimacy and authenticity, while simultaneously adhering to the principles of verbose and detailed expression. This approach allows for the generation of a substantial volume of content with a minimal investment of human effort and involvement.
Thank you for the support, fellow human.
<reciprocal affirmation>
This one is an evil genius
Worth noting, Russia agrees very much and is flooding social media in a very similar way. The LLM makes it more effective now than in 2016
But like, how would they even investigate them? That’s the part I don’t understand. Whoever was peeing in there, they’re gone by the time the cops show up. It doesn’t take that long to pee.
Camera footage?
For starters, showing up and finding out that the alleged suspect doesn’t exist
It’s probably for coworkers, regular customers… people who keep going to the same restroom.
Republicans show up and taste the toilet seat. They claim they can tell the difference.
I love/hate how I can’t tell anymore if comments like this is sarcasm or real.
It’s real. They can taste the difference.
Can we submit on a website? I can submit a million per day
Here you go, but it appears to be down at the moment.
I’d rather my Tax Dollars go to THAT instead of feeding Starving American Children!
Who cares about if they’re hungry? I just want to talk about their genitalia!!!
So not only was it hateful, but it was wasteful, too. Good job, Utah.
Feature not a bug
Not that I want to defend these people but, why would they want that to cost a lot? Make a lot of BS jobs?
Bleed the Beast.
Waste money on bullshit like this, then cut useful social services to “balance the budget.”
First thing that comes to mind is republicans want government to be wasteful and useless. So they do shit like this, then blame government and regulations, then push for smaller government and ignore their own role in fucking things up.
Also, they’re giving jobs to bigots, which they love.
I’m sure there’s many other reasons.
This is outrageous. They’re not even going to attempt to investigate my report about an alien beaming into the bathroom and touching my peepee? Just for that, I’m filing 10 more complaints.
Which bathroom tho
The humans’ bathroom.
Never gonna catch me 👽
On this planet, you don’t just leave a guy hanging like that. When you start a job, finish it dammit!
I’m still waiting for my alien reach around.
Just to make up for that grevious lack of action about your case, I think we should ALL file reports about those alien peepee touchers until it gets the attention it deserves.
I mean, bathrooms are the most important thing in the world and despite it being a very modern contrivance, making sure the right people are using the right machines to whisk their poopies and pee away is critical for the survival of our species. We have to defend this noble institution against the alien peepee touchers! MAKE THEM LISTEN!
Gayliens.
Only 12000? Those are rookie numbers! Get back to work!
Seriously. This person filed 20,716 complaints about flight path noise pollution in a year. Just one person. I need to see a zero added behind that 12,000 figure, then I’ll know at least six people are truly dedicated.
I suppose decades of misandric conditioning would create the opinion that all men, trans or not, are sexual predators and closet perverts. This needs to change.
misandry doesn’t real
And misogyny conditions to believe that all women are victims. They really aren’t separate forces, they work together.
Eerybody needs feminism.
