Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals

it’s utilitarian, but not vegan

since there have been laws, there have been criminals

I consider it to be a mutual activity

arguing with vegans

what’s relevant is that we eat the same crops we feed animals. they eat the waste from those crops, which is a conservation of resources.

You can grow plants to eat, or you can grow plants for a cow to eat and then eat it.

false dichotomy. cows eat corn cobs and corn stalks and soy cake. people eat corn and corn syrup and corn starch and soybean oil. the food system is more complex than you’re saying.

disengage

poore-nemecek 2018 is dubiously methodized. I don’t trust it

as much as I can. it’s not my profession. I think I don’t have enough evidence that changing ones diet has any impact on the environment once easy or the other.

there was a senate investigation. it found she was not, in fact, financed by russia.

grass fed is not a myth. there are grass-fed grass-finished cattle.

this is handwaiving, not evidence.

your comments don’t actually establish that well. they rely on poor data gathering processes.

this study relies on poore-nemecek 2018 for its data, which improperly combines LCA studies with disparate methodologies. it’s not good science.

this study relies on poore-nemecek 2018 for its data, which improperly combines LCA studies with disparate methodologies. it’s not good science.

all agriculture has an impact on the environment.

what makes you think that?

my municipality fought the USDA redistricting in the 1980s and kept the hamlet where my house is in the program.

I know a lot of you are urbanites, but for anyone who isn’t, check out the USDA 502 direct loan program