Ten years after the Supreme Court extended marriage rights to same-sex couples nationwide, the justices this fall will consider for the first time whether to take up a case that explicitly asks them to overturn that decision.

Kim Davis, the former Kentucky county clerk who was jailed for six days in 2015 after refusing to issue marriage licenses to a gay couple on religious grounds, is appealing a $100,000 jury verdict for emotional damages plus $260,000 for attorneys fees.

In a petition for writ of certiorari filed last month, Davis argues First Amendment protection for free exercise of religion immunizes her from personal liability for the denial of marriage licenses.

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    "Davis said she’s been “called Hitler, I’ve been called [a] hypocrite, I’ve been called a homophobe.”

    “I’ve been called things and names that I didn’t even say when I was in the world. Those names don’t hurt me,” Davis said. “What probably hurt me the worst is when someone tells me that my God does not love me or that my God is not happy with me, that I am a hypocrite of a Christian.”"

    Lmao, so you don’t mind being called Hitler, but being called a fake Christian - now that’s insulting! Tells you everything you need to know

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    This would then apply to all religions, correct?

    She is so messed up. Religious marriage is separate from state licensing of relationships. Religion can discriminate away, but the state serves all its people.

    She can’t argue she was acting on behalf of the state, and literally says it was based on her personal beliefs how can she then argue she has no personal liability?

    I think that firing her would have been the better answer though, if she won’t do the job then fire her and hire someone without a conflict.

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    Can we get someone who believes in Jakub elected as county clerk somewhere in the US South? Then they can deny marriage licenses to all the white people for being inhuman.

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      I can’t wait until Clarence Thomas decides in favor of legislation that bans interracial marriages. I can’t wait!

      Spy magazine back in the early '90s ran a great cartoon captioned “Clarence Thomas greets the morning” which showed him on his front porch bending down to pick up the newspaper next to a negro stable boy lawn statue.

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        The irony of them “defending” US citizenship like it’s some holy sacrament reserved for the elite, while, in the process and because of all their actions, the country is imploding into the filthiest fucking piece of shit on the planet that no one will want to touch with a ten foot pole anyways… Get me the fuck out of here.

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        The citizens through marriage thing will definitely be allowed - on a case by case basis, and provided they bring benefit to the country.

        That benefit, of course, will be eugenic based, and entirely centered around women marrying approved American men.

        It’s important to remember that everything is based on eugenics and property.

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        Oh that’ll stay, it will just become a bit more complicated. Luckily here I have a handy chart you can reference though: us-foreign-policy

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        We’d be looking into France as our first choice. My husband doesn’t speak any foreign languages, but I can pass the A2 exam in French (and I’m actively studying to further this).

        If France wasn’t an option, the list of first to tertiary choices would be Spain, Portugal, and Italy last (I’m ethnically half Italian with family living there; my grandfather was an Italian immigrant, but Italy doesn’t allow homosexual marriage).

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          I’d be wary of Italy, it’s currently governed by actual fascists (or rather “post-fascists”).

          Like, go to the Wikipedia article of the ruling party “Brothers of Italy”, click on the party in the entry " Preceded by", do this twice again and you arrive at Mussolini’s Republican Fascist Party.

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      The way things are going the only safe place for all queer people will be a rowing boat on the ocean, through at this point maybe time for queers to start exploring the idea of building space rockets and heading out into space to find a new home the safest choice sigh 😞

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    Could we just get government out of the marriage game? It seems to be the source of all the problems. They simply shouldn’t care.

    Even if we don’t this is such a simple concept: Marriage is a contract. The requirements for a contract is consenting adults. How can they make gender determine who can sign a contract? That would be unreasonable.

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      I think you’re second point is more important. The religious part of marriage is actually meaningless in the eyes of the law even today, you still need to apply for a marriage certificate with the government.

      I think we just need to extend that to just be a cohabitation/shared asset contract for any two+ people. It makes a lot of legal sense to have a defined “family unit” for medical/legal/financial reasons, but it shouldn’t overlap with religious concepts.

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          I’d disagree here. Jesus was a Rabbi. And Rabbi are usually required to be married.

          But the early church was extremely anti-woman.

          Mary Magdalene is always portrayed as a whore who just sort of hung around.

          But she seems to be more important than that. Especially in the dead sea scrolls.

          Paul, or Saul, on the other hand, seems to have been the source of the anti-woman aspects of the early church.

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            As someone raised in the Baptist faith, but got the hell out, Baptists fucking LOVE Saul/Paul and he’s basically 60%+ of their entire schtick. Largely because he was such a staunch stickler of a person. I mean God supposedly made him blind so he’d stop being an asshole.

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              It didn’t work apparently. He just read the writing on the wall and changed his strategy for enacting his loathsome world view.

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            dead sea scrolls

            You are conflating the dead sea scrolls with the Nag Hammadi library. The Dead Sea Scrolls do not contain any Christian texts, only Jewish texts from around the time of Jesus. The Nag Hammadi library contains a number of texts typically described as “gnostic” and some of these include teachings attributed to Mary Magdalene.

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    Can we just take a minute to appreciate how much forehead she has? She could star in the next Coneheads movie!

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      She certainly looks like the type of person that gets upset when other people are having fun. Not very conelike to me unfortunately. Narfle the Garthak!

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    You work for the government, you are acting as the government, paid for by taxes from your constituents.

    You do not get to decide which laws to follow. Fuck off Kim.

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      She has no reason to speak of morals when you look at how poorly she practices what she screeches.