For all the Trump administration’s talk of saving money and increasing “government efficiency,” the president demanded that huge amounts be appropriated in the Republicans’ recent budget bill to fund his mass-deportation program.

In all, $170 billion was set aside to be spent over the next four years for border and immigration enforcement. This total includes $45 billion to create a sprawling detention system (nearly five times the annual budget for the Bureau of Prisons), $30 billion for ICE operations, $46.6 billion for more border wall construction, and, as if that weren’t enough, a new $10 billion border patrol slush fund.

This level of funding is unprecedented. ICE is now the highest-funded law enforcement agency in the country. And that fact raises a question: What exactly are they going to do with all that money?

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    People should start following bros back to their operating centers then following them home. Create a catalog publicly showing their homes to the public. See how that goes for them SS officers.

    When I worked for DoD. This was CBP and Other three letter groups biggest fears. Having their private lives invaded.

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      When I worked for DoD. This was CBP and Other three letter groups biggest fears. Having their private lives invaded.

      Might be unwise to frighten them before you have something to substantiate that fear with, they have weapons and an organization.

      Cause frightening them without such basis is how you accelerate fascism. They would want to just enjoy their newly gotten power and - for the top - stolen money, but fear compels them to also press against threats to that.

      Like after Bolotnaya protests in Moscow the Russian regime started doing various crap with increased tempo. They might not even have attacked Ukraine without it.

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    We heard from that recording, $10k per arrest/deport.

    Honestly if I have no other ways to feed myself and family, I will take it.

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      Times are tough, but that doesn’t excuse becoming a fascist’s foot soldier. Join a union, organise, protest, fight for a better life, become politically active. You still have the pretence of democracy in America, use it.

      https://www.iww.org/

      https://youtu.be/kvj2WEaFtrQ

      Times are tough, we all could use a helping hand
      Troubles weighing on your mind, quickly sinking in this sand
      Thinking thoughts about your future, trapped on this hellish land
      I heard that death is what happens while you’re making other plans
      Looking 'round for help, may as well dig the grave yourself
      Make your way out of the hole you made, you’ve got to save yourself
      You’ve got to save your self

      Run, run, run, you ain’t never gonna win
      Looking right, looking left, or at her, or at him
      You ain’t never gonna be anything that you wanna be
      If you play it safe and place your real dreams under lock and key

      Yeah, no one’s gonna help you 'cause this world is so cold
      And it likes to make examples out of all the brave and bold

      But you’ve got to carry forward, can’t afford to lose your soul

      You don’t look around for help, you’ve got to do it on your own
      You’ve got to save… your… self

      Fight, fight, fight, just as hard as you can
      Change your luck, change your style, change the cards in your hand
      I know life’s getting peak, it’s a mountain to climb
      With the worry in your heart and that doubt on your mind\

      Yeah, no one’s gonna help you 'cause this world is so cold
      And it likes to make examples out of all the brave and bold
      But you’ve got to carry forward, can’t afford to lose your soul
      You don’t look around for help, you’ve got to do it on your own
      You’ve got to save… your… self

      Save yourself!

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      Sure, just don’t be shocked if your victim decides “If the only way to defend my family is to blow this fed’s head off with a shotgun, I’ll take it.”

      Probably doesn’t end well for that person, but you’ll still be dead and distinctly not supporting your family anymore. Hopefully the conservative gofundme can tide them over.

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        I’m sorry I would die that way, better keep finding other ways to live I guess. But I’m even sorrier that a few cases like that will probably feed DJT the third term.

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          If anyone sees Nazis getting killed and thinks “those poor Nazis!! They have families!” They’re a shit person. Genuinely all Nazis can kill themselves today, thanks.

          If that makes you want to vote for trump ANY more than you do now, you can also kill yourself.

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      “If I have no others way to […] I would totally work in the Auschwitz showers”.

      Since we’re this low on morality I’m sure you can also get a job in the Russian military or in the IDF. Who wouldn’t mind stomping on some babies as long as you get some minor checks?

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        As, eh, someone living in Russia - comparisons of the Russian military with the IDF are at this point unjust. It fights a war of aggression, and it does that the Soviet way, which is imprecise and costly in lives of civilians. But it doesn’t intentionally starve a whole city, shooting at those coming for aid it pretends to provide and intent on “deporting” them entirely.

        Just to make it clear, the whole situation sucks, and there is a right and a wrong side, but not comparable with Gaza.

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      Honestly if I have no other ways to feed myself and family, I will take it.

      Found the fascist.

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      Funny fact about a cage, they’re never built for just one group. So when that cage is done with them and you’re still poor, it come for you.

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      Honestly if I have no other ways to feed myself and family, I will take it.

      Oh so you’re a piece of shit. Got it. Thank for giving us all a headsup, I guess.

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      Keep up that enthusiasm. I’m sure it’ll look great when you explain that you did it for the money when you’re on trial for crimes against humanity.

      When sanity was restored, we hanged the Nazis. Don’t think ICE will be any different when the Trump regime falls. “Just following orders” or “I needed to feed my family” are not valid excuses.

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    …they are paying bounties on extra-judicial arrests…

    bounties.

    for arrest without trial.

    …barring decisive impeachment and conviction in eighteen months, there is no way this doesn’t end in blood and fire…

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      But but the Epstein files bro just wait for you’ll see everyone will confirm for sure again that he’s a rapist and we’ll defeat facism bro don’t forget the Epstein files trust me bro

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    This total includes $45 billion to create a sprawling detention system (nearly five times the annual budget for the Bureau of Prisons)

    Now why would they need such a big budget for concentration camps if they’re deporting the illegal immigrants? Seems like a big waste to build all those facilities and have them sit empty after the job is done.

    Or is it more likely they’re going to start rounding up other people too? Trump just announced they’re going to go after homeless and mentally ill people. And we know they consider trans people to be a danger to themselves and gay/bi as deviants. We’ve also seen a rise on attacks against political opponents. Trump even wants to charge Obama with treason.

    This is exactly the Nazi playbook from the 30s. And the American public is letting him do it.

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      For comparison, the Trump Admin just approved a 5000 bed tent camp at Fort Bliss in El Paso, TX. The contract was awarded to Acquisition Logistics for $1.26B.

      That’s $252k per bed. There’s easily enough money there to build single family homes for every one of them, and even that would be wasteful. (And yes, even in high cost of living areas, the sheer scale involved would almost certainly bring costs below that number).

      When we say “the cruelty is the point”, this is why. There’s a lack of other explanations for their actions.

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      They are already constructing a 30,000 bed facility at Guantanamo. The EO was signed, and the $250 million contract awarded, months ago, with absolutely no peep from the media, then or since.

      For context, Guantanamo currently has a capacity for up to about 250 people. The average maximum security prison in America holds around 800-1200 people. The largest prison in America is in Angola, LA, and holds about 8000.

      So this new facility will hold almost 4 times as many as our biggest prison, and about 30 times more than our average prison. Guantanamo is in a remote corner of Cuba, so if they are so hot to deport all the illegals, who do they intend to house there, out of sight of the courts, their lawyers, and the media?

      I suspect it will be AMERICAN political prisoners - media, opposition candidates, protest organizers, loudmouth celebrities, etc.

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      Look on the bright side! All this money is going to be contracted out to companies that these new oligarchs control, and by the time they funnel most of the money to their wallet only a handful of new prisons will actually get built. We will have to hope the grift can get in the way of the the new Holocaust that Stephen Miller is planning,

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        It’s not the bright side, I live in Russia, so many people here thought that it won’t start a big war because with all the corruption it can’t prepare well enough.

        It doesn’t need to prepare well enough, LOL, it did that anyway.

        Just like with your things. However much they’ll steal, I think they’ll do the prisons too. Worse and more expensive, but yeah.

        See, when a prison hasn’t been built, it’s not their problem in a holocaust scenario. It’s the problem of the prisoners who’ll be crammed like sardines into spaces intended for smaller amount. Or kept under open-sky tent camps. Or something else.

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      Funny fact about a cage, they’re never built for just one group, so when the cage is done with them and you’re still poor. It come for you.

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      This is exactly the Nazi playbook from the 30s. And the American public is letting him do it.

      Technically this is American playbook. Between USA and Germany one country doesn’t have a history of facilities for returning slaves to their owners.

      But honestly I’d expect these and other people to do whatever they want until stopped.

      They have the technology for a concentration camp of the future, with such a degree of control that it can be relied to guard itself and arm its owners. They are using it. Want to fix something - look for holes.

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      To not be American and watch this all unfold truly shows us what Americans are all about. Around the globe we’ve listened for a long time about how dominant they are in everything but when it comes to standing up for themselves and their fellow man, they sit down.

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    We are going to see some real Abu Graib type shit in no time at all with the culture of abuse and rushed training. But will any of the immovable 40% who voted for this start to question our embrace of cruelty on a national level? Meh…Look at the baubles!

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      Yeah, the govt spun the story of Abu Ghraib as being a few bad apples that didn’t represent American values. And of course it’s bullshit, because it’s so incredibly predictable what outcomes you will get from doing things like this. Torture and abuse are American values, because that is what America consistently and repeatedly engages in.

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        I think you’re overdramatizing it. Humans do shit when they can. The secret to prevention is to make so that they can’t. Not to make them promise they won’t. Not to pick “good” people who “certainly” won’t. Not to say many words how the wide masses will riot if they will.

        Just make it so that they can’t. If they can, they will.

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    …give it some time, and it’ll be death squad. Just plain killing people, cheaper than sending them away.

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    Bad news, they are gonna end up hiring a bunch of proud boys. Also bad news, they won’t do the job right, and we’ll pay loads of money in lawsuits and end up with far too many funerals

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      Hmmm 🤔

      First, as if proud boys aren’t already IcE members. Not that I have proof, but I would be very surprised if someone proofed that no ICE members sees themselves as a proud boy.

      Second, wasn’t it clear from the beginning, that with ICE, an American version of SS was created?!

      (For those who don’t know German Nazis and Hitler: SS was the private army of Hitler making sure that nobody attacks Hitler’s ideology from inside)

      History always repeats itself, and it is infuriating…

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    And Europe just agreed to finance it!

    Violent global revolution is the only and last hope left for humanity. Arm yourselves.

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      It’s looking pretty catastrophic, the future. The climate catastrophe, the AGI singularity, and techno-feudal fascism are all imminent. Then, less imminent there’s the altered nuclear threat, antibiotic resistance, societal collapse (due to all of the above, plus unprecedented wealth inequality) to name a few.
      Revolution in some form is inevitable, but it’s not guaranteed to be effective in making things better.
      We’re about nine historical turning points deep already, but I think the big ones are yet to come and I hate it.