Right. I have gotten some complaints about this from the report feature so I’ll just say a couple of things.
Firstly, everyone. If you think OP is being a little silly then I urge to perhaps try telling them nicely with calling them an idiot. We won’t to promote an atompsphere where people are encouraged to talk about their problems without being ridiculed. This isn’t the first time something like this happened.
Secondly, OP. You also need to engage more constructively with these people as well. The way you are getting defensive and immediately bringing up your education does not help you. Also you post complaining about here has been removed. We don’t really want this instance to be a place where people complain about other parts of lemmy. That just leads to drama down the road.
I love that you came here and I think everything you said is fair.
I love OP’s response though, this whole thread is hilarious.
I don’t need to engage with them at all.
- Goes out of their way to post in a public forum.
- Insists they have no need for a public forum.
84 upvotes from others who have experienced this problem, and Hefty now makes bags called “grippers”, which contain elastic to combat this problem. I thought it was funny. I didn’t realize other readers were going to attack me over how I put a 13 gallon bag into a 13 gallon garbage can. Everyone can post here. No one is obligated to interact with the commenters. Sorry you feel differently.
Striker didn’t say that you have to engage, he said that when you do it should be more constructive. C’mon.
You are buying the wrong sized bags for your can.
Nope. They are the right size. I checked.
We can all see that they are not. A properly sized trash bag goes OVER the trash can, even after bottoming out.
It isn’t pulled tight in this picture. It was originally placed over the edge. Under the weight of trash, it slipped and became lodged in the can. The bottom of the bag was already touching the can when placed into the can. I think trash bag manufacturers should have an elastic band within the top of the bag that can prevent this.
You still continue to ignore advice & explanation. Trash bags DO NOT NEED TO BE PULLED TIGHT AROUND THE CAN! In fact, many bags don’t even have anything to pull tight in the first place! A fitting bag can reach not just the bottom, completely, but also still have several centimeters of excess material to fold over the top of the can. I’m talking about 2-3 times the amount of material compared to what is visible on the right side of your photo, which very clearly shows that this bag is not the right size for your can. On my can the bag goes about 1/4 down the outside of the can, because I paid attention to the size of my can and the bags I buy. It has no strings to pull either, it just hangs there, weighted down only by the plastic lid.
I recommend some clips. The kind used to hang laundry. I believe that trashcan comes with a swiveling lid not pictured here and if the bag is installed properly the lid will hold it in place. But if you don’t have the lid (they’re not made of a particularly durable material or to a durable design spec), the clips do work.
I did try using plastic clips that are meant to be used for hanging items on the fridge. They lost traction with the side of the can as soon as the can became half full of trash. I’ll try some laundry clips, if I can find any around the house. Thank you for your suggestion.
Is the problem that the bags aren’t long enough? Fill the bottom of the can with something the bag can rest on.
No, the bags reach the bottom of the can the edges of the bag don’t cling to the edges of the can.
I don’t understand what’s happening in this picture. Why is the blue draw string not being used? Is the bag too short for the bin? Is that a laundry hamper? How would the groves for the lid work if a bag is in place?
The blue drawstrings don’t stretch, so I can’t tie a knot in them to make the bag stay in place. It’s just a frustrating design.
Has nothing to do with design. Buy the right sized bag and problem solved. Work an extra shift if you can’t afford the right sized bag.
If it’s anything like the drawstring bags I have tried, it’s flimsy and mostly for show - it barely even tightens the bag when you’re ready to tie it up and throw it out.
He’s buying too small bags for his can. You can see this by the fact that when the bag reaches the bottom properly, it barely even reaches to the top. But fitting bags would be able to wrap around it, prevent the bag from falling inside. He’s just being stupid.
No-fail kitchen garbage bag replacement.
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Buy high quality (not Walmart) plastic kitchen bin. Note bag size printed on giant, impossible to remove sticker.
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Buy proper bag size from name brand. You can spend a bit of money up front, or spend your valuable time later cleaning up garbage juice. Your call.
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Remove bag from roll.
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Open bag and scare the crap out of the dog by inflating the bag with swift, loud, jarring noises.
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Place bag in bin. DO NOT ATTACH YET.
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Starting at one corner, seal the bag around the edge while simultaneously reaching into the clean bag and forcing air out from between the bin and bag.
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Work your way around until entire inside of bin looks like a reverse condom.
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Good to go.
simultaneously reaching into the clean bag and forcing air out from between the bin and bag
drill a couple small holes in the bottom of the bin – provides air escape when filling bag and full bag easily lifts out without lifting whole bin
All fine until someone puts something liquidy in your bin. Rather have the binjuice cointained.
If you put the holes about 2 cm up on the sides you get the juice contained while still getting air flow.
You don’t even need to drill it in the bottom. Our can has a hole at the top just below the rim which works the same. The air can find its way out but it can’t do the 180 degree turn around the rim especially if the bag makes a good seal around the rim.
I recently had to replace my kitchen bin and the new one came with the holes pre-drilled
The future is here
Good. I hate bags that keep that previous garbage juice to themselves.
Tbf the holes are about 10cm up the side, so unless you’ve got a disturbing amount of juice, both scenarios are covered
Instructions unclear, dick is now stuck in trash bin.
Understandable mistake.
Any European here who can elaborate for me how to perform steps 0 and 1? I don’t know where to search for bins with bag sizes assigned to them or for bags of specific sizes.
Pretty much everywhere I can buy a bin in the UK will tell me its capacity in litres as part of the product description (or on the label if you’re in a physical shop)
Most bin liners you can get from the supermarket have the corresponding capacity written on their labels
Most bins end up falling into a few common sizes, so you usually don’t have to try hard to find a match unless you get a weird bin
Sure, but I don’t think capacity is enough. You need to match dimensions of the opening and the height/width of the container as well. In my experience it’s impossible to match the bin dimensions to the bag dimensions.
Well if you want exact fitting bags to bins, I think companies like Brabantia do exactly that, but that comes at a bit of a premium in both the bin and then buying their bags
Just wanted to add, if you finish step 6 with a bit of excess bag collected on the outside of the bin fold it back flat against the outside of the bin and roll the top of the bag down over it a few times. Do it tightly and it holds fairly well without having to pull the drawstring until you take the bag out.
alternatively, get one without a draw string, and just cut or tear one section about an inch. Then, use the ‘bunny ears’ to tie off with whatever knot you want. Tuck the ends under.
if you’re able to just stretch the back, it’s like to over-stretch and fail if it gets full. it’s best to use a slightly loose bag and tie it off.
Step 6 is way easier if you do it in space. Can’t afford space? Go to the top of the tallest mountain (sorry Texas) its probably good enough.
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I’ve been a janitor for a good chunk of my working life; the easiest solution is to just tie the thing into a knot so it doesn’t come loose from the bin until you untie it. The tie ribbon they give you in some brands of bags make this easier than ones that would require tying excess bag to the bin.
in college I worked for the college in custodial services. (yeah. it’s as bad as you imagine it.)
we’d make the bunny ears just by poking a hole and ripping (or a knife if one’s handy.)
There are big rubber bands specifically meant to go on your trash bin to hold the bag in place, I bought mine from Walmart or Target I believe.
Really? Do they work on tapered trash cans?
You could also get yourself a pack of bungee cords. Bungee the bag the same way you’d use one of those bands.
It’s the kludgy option, but you’ll probably get a bunch of spare bungee cords out of it and those are always useful.
This is what I did
It should as its only holding a trash bag in place provided the bag is tall enough to touch the bottom of the can.
Thank you. I’m going to look for those. I was using clips on the sides for a while, but when the trash can becomes full, the clips pop off of the sides.
Those blue spots are part of the inner plastic ring that you can tie up yourself.
I pulled on them to tie a knot, but they aren’t stretchy like the material used to make the bag.
Try tying it before you put the bag in. It takes trial and error to know how much slack to leave, but it’ll allow you to get a tight fit once you get the length right.
I did, but the blue handles don’t stretch. They are just plastic, with no elasticity.
Bro is too dumb to use a trash bag and complains on the internet
The trash bags don’t fit the can. I wouldn’t say I’m dumb. What was your ASVAB score, “bro”?
You’re buying the wrong bags. How are you this dense?
Bags have sizes in gallons. Buy the right size for your can.
Simple concept guy.
I’m sorry are we all gonna just gloss over the “what’s your ASVAB score bro” response?
I have no idea what the ASVAB is, so I’m just going to assume it’s s standardised trash bag fitting test that all US kids have to go through at some point.
The ASVAB is the placement test you take when entering the military. It shows which branch/position you’d be most likely to do well. Basically, a higher score gives you greater flexibility in where you end up; Exceptionally high scores will even have scouts for specific branches and positions reaching out to recruit you. For instance, maybe you took it for the military, but then get a call from the FBI asking if you’d be interested in working for them instead.
Using it as a source to gauge their intelligence on how well they can fit a trash bag into a can? That means OP is either hilariously sarcastic, or hilariously dense and out of touch.
Is the FBI really that good with trash bags?
Bro got recruited by the military. Kinda says a lot about his “intelligence.”
I knew some very intelligent individuals in the military. We were all enlisted and we all knew how to put a shit can liner in a shit can. And not one of us went around waving our ASVAB dick around.
Love a good old fashioned OP roast though.
- that all high school kids (in my area) take before graduating (to give recruiters more ammo when they
harassspeak with the kids during gym class a few months later)
- that all high school kids (in my area) take before graduating (to give recruiters more ammo when they
Bro is buying the wrong sized bags, then complaining about how the bag companies are stupid. When someone points that out, they call them stupid.
The internet is a magical place.
Buy the correct size trash bags for your trash can?
They are the correct size, unfortunately.
92, Can we not do this?
92?
My asvab score was a 92. Had a migraine that morning. Can we not do this? This is just silly.
UPDATE:
My trash can is 13 gallons and so are the bags. Here is proof.
I’d like an apology from those who called me dumb for “using the wrong size trash bags”, or “not knowing what size garbage can” I have. I have the correct size trash can and liners. I think the makers of trash bags should fix the design flaw and make the edge of the bag contain an elastic band. I don’t believe I should be verbally attacked for posting something that seems to be a common issue for many Lemmy readers. My post isn’t in the negatives here. Some others must be experiencing this same problem.
Bro, I think you need a break. You won’t be vindicated here. A mod already came in and made every point to be made.
I don’t listen to people who use bro to address people.
Yikes, what a cunty thing to say.
Not really. Every time someone has used “bro” in my presence to address someone, they’re usually speaking down to them.
I spent about seven years buying Dollar Tree bags, while trying to pay off debt (which I still have). I feel like this recent decision made no forward progress here.
buy smaller trashcan. use grocery bags. profit until the world breaks.
I do this for the garbage can in the bathroom. It saves a lot of money!
In my house we have slightly oversized trashbags, have the bag oriented the other way (so when you pull the bag out it does not get stuck), make sure the drawstring is over the lip, and this depends on the design of your trash-can but just see the picture. Image link for non-Kbin.
Yeah, I probably just need to accept that I have to buy bigger bags that are actually too big for the can.
Just get bigger bags or a smaller bin.
True, but the bigger bags cost more and then you don’t really get to use the extra capacity of them, because the excess bag hangs over the edge of the can.
because the excess bag hangs over the edge of the can.
My guy. This is by design, to prevent the exact issue you are complaining about and to give you enough leeway to actually close the bag properly too. You’re literally making a problem out of nothing just to be outraged over it.
There’s no elasticity in the drawstrings to pull them tight around the can. It’s a flaw in the design. Also, I’m not a man. Keep your “my guy” comment to yourself.
“my guy” is used as a general reference regardless of the gender of the target, especially if on the internet, when discussing someone who can’t use a fucking garbage bag, but if you wish we can refer to you as “shit for brains” because you certainly don’t have anything useful up there.
When you take the ASVAB and outscore my 97th percentile, or earn a graduate degree in a STEM field, I might take your insult to heart. As of now, you don’t strike me as very intelligent, or very polite.
My 99 outscores your 97. Shit for brains is gender neutral and seems to apply to someone who has difficulty operating a trash can. Also the ASVAB is an entry test for everyone, go take the NFQT then come brag about your score on the interwebs.
If you had scored within the 99th percentile, I don’t think you would call your score a “99”. You didn’t score 99. You scored within the 99th percentile, if what you say is true. Also, if you scored within the 99th percentile you would have a career within the military that would most likely deny you the privilege of a civilian social media account, even if it were semi-anonymous. I do t think your commanding officers would be happy with your wasted time spent arguing on the internet. I also think they would see your use of profanity as a liability.
Ah yes the military famous for their bright minds, or was it crayon eating? I can never remember since all I did was take computer science, physics, and math courses in university.
Coming from the person who can’t fit the right trash bag for their trash can that gets immediately upset from someone saying “my guy” and possibly being seen as a man. Grow up.
The trash can is the correct size for the bags. You act like you own stock in the companies that make them. I’m simply pointing out a design issue that could be improved.
Why don’t you be mature, and take your own advice. Find a better use of your time as an adult than attacking others online.
The drawstrings aren’t to tie the bag to the can, they’re to help you close the bag afterwards. I don’t care about your gender and you getting so upset about it is just making you look even more unhinged.
Responding and having an opinion doesn’t make a person unhinged. I hope one day you have the opportunity to experience an interaction with a person who is actually unhinged. Maybe it will be you since you see yourself fit to seem others as unhinged. You must have first hand experience.
No, what makes you unhinged is seeing some sort of personal attack in everything, including all the advice that people give you and creating completely made up issues for yourself, such as the trash can or the alleged attacks against people who failed to study your birth certificate and social media profiles first.
You don’t have my maiden name to look up my birth certificate. You shouldn’t be trying to look up my birth certificate, or my personal social media accounts, either. That is the equivalent of doxing a person. I reported your comment for insinuating that you have doxed me.
Also, it’s just a funny post about a common problem. You took it personally. One trash bag manufacturer actually does make a set of garbage bags that grip the can. It’s Hefty, and the bags are called “grippers” because this problem is more common than people realize. You don’t need to attack me, as is evident in your multiple comments that make degrading personal remarks against me.
Just be a common degenerate like we all are and pile your garbage up. Then it will be the exacts correct size.
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Facepalm.
You buy bags that are too small. Then you complain on the internet that the bags that are too small don’t fit. Then you start complaining that the bags that DO fit are too expensive.
Then you have the audacity to accuse the bag companies of poor design.
Fuck man. Life is hard for you I bet.
Can issue
Yeah, it might be a problem with the can, but I remember trash bags that had more elastic ties/handles in the early 2000’s. These bag handles don’t seem to be made of that material, so I can’t tie knots in the handles to secure the bags to the can.
