• Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    2 days ago

    Well it’s been going on for about 40 years so far… Military targets are valid targets (and certainly better than carpet bombing civilians, which Israel also do a lot of), and to be clear, Iran are not interested in nuclear for it’s clean energy potential.

    Nobody wants nuclear proliferation but a religious fundamentalist state (and the US and Pakistan and even North Korea, for all their insanity, at least stop short of that) having them would be Bad Times.

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      God westerners are hypocrites. I’m guessing you still whine about Russia breaking international law even though you’re just straight up admitting you don’t care about international law at all.

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        Please don’t put that guys opinion on all westeners. Most Danes agree that Israel are way out of line for instance, and our prime minister has officially denounced their behavior in Gaza.

        The world is nuanced, and generalizing about large populations of people is never right. When you do that you are putting blame on a lot of innocent people, and demonizing people only makes it harder to work towards a better world.

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        The sexist and homophobic ISLAMIC Republic of Iran sends arms to Russia to aid in their invasion and attempted conquest of Ukraine, and their continued occupation of parts of Ukraine.

        I oppose the genocide of Gazans, but Iran’s whining about Israel attacking their regime rings a bit hollow for me.

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          23 hours ago

          And Ukraine supports Israel. So does Ukraine’s whining about Russia attacking their regime also ring hollow for you? Or are you just a racist hypocrite?

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          You imposed heavy sanctions on iran because they didn’t want to be a western puppet then you wonder why they have to go support russia. What next you will ask to bomb china next and start a world war 3?

          The genocidals imperial western power support a terrorist jewish state ruked by extremist occupting palestine for 57 years

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            Do you support what Russia is doing in Ukraine?

            Do you support the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran’s sexism and homophobia?

            So why grieve when some mullarch or Reactionary Guard leader bites the dust?

            Europe was for the most part an antisemitic genocidal shit-hole for Jews before they were arguably dumped in Palestine where they could at least be safe; and the USSR was the first country to recognize Israel.

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              Do you support what Russia is doing in Ukraine?

              No I don’t unlike you supporting the terrorist state occupation Palestinians for 57 years

              Do you support the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran’s sexism and homophobia?

              No , i support Iranians themselves deal with the regime . I don’t support killing Iranians under the pretext of helping democracy

              So why grieve when some mullarch or Reactionary Guard leader bites the dust?

              Because the terrorist state of Israel is a genocidal state currently committing a genocide and like to kill the most number of civilians

              Europe was for the most part an antisemitic genocidal shit-hole for Jews before they were arguably dumped in Palestine where they could at least be safe; and the USSR was the first country to recognize Israel.

              You are so stupid to think that enforcing a state on local people would make jew safe anywhere that have nothing to do with the holocaust . After Nazism was defeated jews was going to live safe where they was.

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                Do you support what Russia is doing in Ukraine?

                No I don’t unlike you supporting the terrorist state occupation Palestinians for 57 years

                I don’t support that.

                Do you support the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran’s sexism and homophobia?

                No , i support Iranians themselves deal with the regime . I don’t support killing Iranians under the pretext of helping democracy

                What if some of the dead Iranians actively supported the repression by the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran and/or the Reactionary Guards?

                So why grieve when some mullarch or Reactionary Guard leader bites the dust?

                Because the terrorist state of Israel is a genocidal state currently committing a genocide

                agreed.

                like to kill the most number of civilians

                FWIW,

                wp:June 2025 Israeli strikes on Iran

                17:56, 13 June 2025

                Per Iran:

                78+ killed (unofficial numbers)[1][2]

                329+ injured[3][4]

                Europe was for the most part an antisemitic genocidal shit-hole for Jews before they were arguably dumped in Palestine where they could at least be safe; and the USSR was the first country to recognize Israel.

                You are so stupid to think that enforcing a state on local people would make jew safe anywhere that have nothing to do with the holocaust .

                IIUC, Jews in Palestine survived better between 1933 to 1945 than in Europe.

                Besides, the British and Turks enforced a state on Palestine before there was a modern Israel.

                After Nazism was defeated jews was going to live safe where they was.

                IIUC, mostly in Communist countries or in Germany where Hitler killed himself only 3 years and a few weeks earlier—I wouldn’t fault Jews for thinking that Germany was safe back then—would you?

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                  I don’t support that.

                  No you don’t.

                  What if some of the dead Iranians actively supported the repression by the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran and/or the Reactionary Guards?

                  Even civilians that support the regime do not deserve to die. Your morality is terrible

                  How do you agree that Israel is a genocidal state when you justify them committing even more crimes in Iran

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                    I don’t support that.

                    No you don’t.

                    Yeah. You’re right. I don’t—again, I don’t support that.

                    Even civilians that support the regime do not deserve to die. Your morality is terrible

                    They don’t.

                    When you are involved in armed struggle, you don’t want to hurt the innocents.

                    When the Allies where shelling the shit out of Berlin in 1945, it’s possible that a few hoped for no civilian casualties.

                    How do you agree that Israel is a genocidal state when you justify them committing even more crimes in Iran

                    When Israel pops off some Hamas punk, generally many civilians also suffer; and that’s in addition to the wanton injury, death, and destruction that they are inflicting on the Gazans (as well as those in the West Bank and Golan). However, if some military or quasi-military supporter of the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran gets blown to bits, and the lady civilian who serves him tea also dies, the latter is tragic, but some might accept it as an acceptable loss. May Allāh regard her with favour.