Yeah. You’re right. I don’t—again, I don’t support that.
Even civilians that support the regime do not deserve to die. Your morality is terrible
They don’t.
When you are involved in armed struggle, you don’t want to hurt the innocents.
When the Allies where shelling the shit out of Berlin in 1945, it’s possible that a few hoped for no civilian casualties.
How do you agree that Israel is a genocidal state when you justify them committing even more crimes in Iran
When Israel pops off some Hamas punk, generally many civilians also suffer; and that’s in addition to the wanton injury, death, and destruction that they are inflicting on the Gazans (as well as those in the West Bank and Golan). However, if some military or quasi-military supporter of the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran gets blown to bits, and the lady civilian who serves him tea also dies, the latter is tragic, but some might accept it as an acceptable loss. May Allāh regard her with favour.
When the Allies where shelling the shit out of Berlin in 1945, it’s possible that a few hoped for no civilian casualties.
The allies didn’t say they will do a genocide against German unlike Israel. The real point of comparison is Israel being similar to Nazi Germany
You can keep saying the dumb war is hell and collateral damage BS, it doesn’t change the fact that israeli intent are very clear about causing harm to civilians. A genocidal state caring about limiting the number of civilians causalities how does that make sense?
Of course it wasn’t a genocide: many Germans had blond hair, blue eyes, and fine Aryan features. I’m sure many Allied soldiers were a little sad about killing those handsome young men and beautiful Christian women.
Gaza is different. The victims have darker complexions, speak incomprehensibly, and many are Mohammatens. Talk of genocide is less verboten.
That’s probably one reason why the Allies, particularly 70-80 years ago, didn’t talk as much about genociding the Germans compared to what Israel is doing to Gaza.
In either case, if you want never to (greatly) risk harming or killing an innocent civilian, then you should probably participate in neither war nor armed struggle.
Yes but you was comparing israel with the allies .
In either case, if you want never to (greatly) risk harming or killing an innocent civilian, then you should probably participate in neither war nor armed struggle.
Don’t tell any person in occupied land not to fight a war that they didn’t chose to but was forced among them
You would tell the same thing to Indian, Tunisian, Algerian etc? You would tell Nat turner to not oppose slave owners?
The rebels killed White people without discriminating by age or sex.[16][17] Turner’s slaveowner and his family were the first to be killed. The rebels then traveled from house to house, freeing slaves and killing Whites.[15] Historian Stephen B. Oates writes that Turner called on his group to “kill all the white people”.[18]
According to the Richmond Enquirer, “Turner declared that ‘indiscriminate slaughter was not their intention after they attained a foothold, and was resorted to in the first instance to strike terror and alarm.’”[19] A few homes were spared “because Turner believed the poor White inhabitants ‘thought no better of themselves than they did of negroes.’”[18] The rebels also avoided the Giles Reese plantation, even though it was en route, likely because Turner wanted to keep his wife and children safe.[20] Turner confessed to killing only one person, Margaret Whitehead, whom he killed with a blow from a fence post.[15] The last house to be attacked was the Rebecca Vaughan House.
Again Israel is the aggressor like Nazi Germany. Iran and Palestine in this case are the allies not Israel. Before you use the democracy argument i will tell you that many autocratic countries was with the allies
Again, no, but wasn’t Gandhi a pacifist?
I don’t talk about Gandhi . I talk about people like Nana Sahib
The Bibighar Massacre took place during the Indian Rebellion of 1857, after the besieged British garrison at Cawnpore (Kanpur) surrendered to rebel forces led by Nana Sahib under a promise of safe passage. During the evacuation, a massacre occurred at Satichaura Ghat, where most British men were killed. Around 120–200 women and children were then taken captive and confined in a villa called Bibighar. As British forces approached to retake the city, Nana Sahib and his advisors—reportedly in retaliation for British actions against Indians—ordered the execution of the captives.
Again Israel is the aggressor like Nazi Germany. Iran and Palestine in this case are the allies not Israel. Before you use the democracy argument i will tell you that many autocratic countries was with the allies
Germany was at least a semi-functioning democracy before 1933. Germans suffered neither a Holocaust, nor did they suffer an existential threat. The countries Germany invaded were also at least a semi-functioning democracies as well as that existed for decades, if not centuries. Arguably the Sudetenlander had it better under Czech rule that Nazi-rule. Nazi Germany got its ass handed to them by the allies, and at least 60% of it not only were the better for it. since then, Germany has had decades of unprecedented peace and prosperity.
Palestine was what? Ruled by the British, and before that the Turks, and before that some Arab Caliph? Jews suffered a Holocaust and presumably nobody wanted them: not Europe, not Canada and US, despite having millions of sq km of land stolen from the indigenous, and perhaps neither Asians nor Arabs. Israel’s neighbours aren’t and weren’t democracies. Jews were at best 2nd classed citizens in those countries. Today Israel is at least a semi-functioning democracy. 20% of its population are Arab-speakers.
Israel is an aggressor, but it’s far from being like the Nazis.
As for the Allies, yes, the USSR was bad. It’s why many post-Soviet countries, particularly Ukraine, never want to be under Kremlin rule again.
I don’t talk about Gandhi . I talk about people like Nana Sahib
Around 120–200 women and children were then taken captive and confined in a villa called Bibighar. As British forces approached to retake the city, Nana Sahib and his advisors—reportedly in retaliation for British actions against Indians—ordered the execution of the captives.
Yeah. You’re right. I don’t—again, I don’t support that.
They don’t.
When you are involved in armed struggle, you don’t want to hurt the innocents.
When the Allies where shelling the shit out of Berlin in 1945, it’s possible that a few hoped for no civilian casualties.
When Israel pops off some Hamas punk, generally many civilians also suffer; and that’s in addition to the wanton injury, death, and destruction that they are inflicting on the Gazans (as well as those in the West Bank and Golan). However, if some military or quasi-military supporter of the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran gets blown to bits, and the lady civilian who serves him tea also dies, the latter is tragic, but some might accept it as an acceptable loss. May Allāh regard her with favour.
The allies didn’t say they will do a genocide against German unlike Israel. The real point of comparison is Israel being similar to Nazi Germany
You can keep saying the dumb war is hell and collateral damage BS, it doesn’t change the fact that israeli intent are very clear about causing harm to civilians. A genocidal state caring about limiting the number of civilians causalities how does that make sense?
Of course it wasn’t a genocide: many Germans had blond hair, blue eyes, and fine Aryan features. I’m sure many Allied soldiers were a little sad about killing those handsome young men and beautiful Christian women.
Gaza is different. The victims have darker complexions, speak incomprehensibly, and many are Mohammatens. Talk of genocide is less verboten.
That’s probably one reason why the Allies, particularly 70-80 years ago, didn’t talk as much about genociding the Germans compared to what Israel is doing to Gaza.
In either case, if you want never to (greatly) risk harming or killing an innocent civilian, then you should probably participate in neither war nor armed struggle.
Yes but you was comparing israel with the allies .
Don’t tell any person in occupied land not to fight a war that they didn’t chose to but was forced among them
You would tell the same thing to Indian, Tunisian, Algerian etc? You would tell Nat turner to not oppose slave owners?
in regards to shooting Hamas punks and active supporters of the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran.
I don’t and wouldn’t.
Again, no, but wasn’t Gandhi a pacifist?
no. However, FWIW:
wp:Nat Turner’s Rebellion
Again Israel is the aggressor like Nazi Germany. Iran and Palestine in this case are the allies not Israel. Before you use the democracy argument i will tell you that many autocratic countries was with the allies
I don’t talk about Gandhi . I talk about people like Nana Sahib
Germany was at least a semi-functioning democracy before 1933. Germans suffered neither a Holocaust, nor did they suffer an existential threat. The countries Germany invaded were also at least a semi-functioning democracies as well as that existed for decades, if not centuries. Arguably the Sudetenlander had it better under Czech rule that Nazi-rule. Nazi Germany got its ass handed to them by the allies, and at least 60% of it not only were the better for it. since then, Germany has had decades of unprecedented peace and prosperity.
Palestine was what? Ruled by the British, and before that the Turks, and before that some Arab Caliph? Jews suffered a Holocaust and presumably nobody wanted them: not Europe, not Canada and US, despite having millions of sq km of land stolen from the indigenous, and perhaps neither Asians nor Arabs. Israel’s neighbours aren’t and weren’t democracies. Jews were at best 2nd classed citizens in those countries. Today Israel is at least a semi-functioning democracy. 20% of its population are Arab-speakers.
Israel is an aggressor, but it’s far from being like the Nazis.
As for the Allies, yes, the USSR was bad. It’s why many post-Soviet countries, particularly Ukraine, never want to be under Kremlin rule again.
So he was a mass murderer. nice.
Israel is the new nazi. https://zionism.wtf/