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    Do you support what Russia is doing in Ukraine?

    Do you support the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran’s sexism and homophobia?

    So why grieve when some mullarch or Reactionary Guard leader bites the dust?

    Europe was for the most part an antisemitic genocidal shit-hole for Jews before they were arguably dumped in Palestine where they could at least be safe; and the USSR was the first country to recognize Israel.

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      Do you support what Russia is doing in Ukraine?

      No I don’t unlike you supporting the terrorist state occupation Palestinians for 57 years

      Do you support the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran’s sexism and homophobia?

      No , i support Iranians themselves deal with the regime . I don’t support killing Iranians under the pretext of helping democracy

      So why grieve when some mullarch or Reactionary Guard leader bites the dust?

      Because the terrorist state of Israel is a genocidal state currently committing a genocide and like to kill the most number of civilians

      Europe was for the most part an antisemitic genocidal shit-hole for Jews before they were arguably dumped in Palestine where they could at least be safe; and the USSR was the first country to recognize Israel.

      You are so stupid to think that enforcing a state on local people would make jew safe anywhere that have nothing to do with the holocaust . After Nazism was defeated jews was going to live safe where they was.

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        Do you support what Russia is doing in Ukraine?

        No I don’t unlike you supporting the terrorist state occupation Palestinians for 57 years

        I don’t support that.

        Do you support the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran’s sexism and homophobia?

        No , i support Iranians themselves deal with the regime . I don’t support killing Iranians under the pretext of helping democracy

        What if some of the dead Iranians actively supported the repression by the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran and/or the Reactionary Guards?

        So why grieve when some mullarch or Reactionary Guard leader bites the dust?

        Because the terrorist state of Israel is a genocidal state currently committing a genocide

        agreed.

        like to kill the most number of civilians

        FWIW,

        wp:June 2025 Israeli strikes on Iran

        17:56, 13 June 2025

        Per Iran:

        78+ killed (unofficial numbers)[1][2]

        329+ injured[3][4]

        Europe was for the most part an antisemitic genocidal shit-hole for Jews before they were arguably dumped in Palestine where they could at least be safe; and the USSR was the first country to recognize Israel.

        You are so stupid to think that enforcing a state on local people would make jew safe anywhere that have nothing to do with the holocaust .

        IIUC, Jews in Palestine survived better between 1933 to 1945 than in Europe.

        Besides, the British and Turks enforced a state on Palestine before there was a modern Israel.

        After Nazism was defeated jews was going to live safe where they was.

        IIUC, mostly in Communist countries or in Germany where Hitler killed himself only 3 years and a few weeks earlier—I wouldn’t fault Jews for thinking that Germany was safe back then—would you?

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          I don’t support that.

          No you don’t.

          What if some of the dead Iranians actively supported the repression by the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran and/or the Reactionary Guards?

          Even civilians that support the regime do not deserve to die. Your morality is terrible

          How do you agree that Israel is a genocidal state when you justify them committing even more crimes in Iran

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            I don’t support that.

            No you don’t.

            Yeah. You’re right. I don’t—again, I don’t support that.

            Even civilians that support the regime do not deserve to die. Your morality is terrible

            They don’t.

            When you are involved in armed struggle, you don’t want to hurt the innocents.

            When the Allies where shelling the shit out of Berlin in 1945, it’s possible that a few hoped for no civilian casualties.

            How do you agree that Israel is a genocidal state when you justify them committing even more crimes in Iran

            When Israel pops off some Hamas punk, generally many civilians also suffer; and that’s in addition to the wanton injury, death, and destruction that they are inflicting on the Gazans (as well as those in the West Bank and Golan). However, if some military or quasi-military supporter of the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran gets blown to bits, and the lady civilian who serves him tea also dies, the latter is tragic, but some might accept it as an acceptable loss. May Allāh regard her with favour.

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              When the Allies where shelling the shit out of Berlin in 1945, it’s possible that a few hoped for no civilian casualties.

              The allies didn’t say they will do a genocide against German unlike Israel. The real point of comparison is Israel being similar to Nazi Germany

              You can keep saying the dumb war is hell and collateral damage BS, it doesn’t change the fact that israeli intent are very clear about causing harm to civilians. A genocidal state caring about limiting the number of civilians causalities how does that make sense?

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                Of course it wasn’t a genocide: many Germans had blond hair, blue eyes, and fine Aryan features. I’m sure many Allied soldiers were a little sad about killing those handsome young men and beautiful Christian women.

                Gaza is different. The victims have darker complexions, speak incomprehensibly, and many are Mohammatens. Talk of genocide is less verboten.

                That’s probably one reason why the Allies, particularly 70-80 years ago, didn’t talk as much about genociding the Germans compared to what Israel is doing to Gaza.

                In either case, if you want never to (greatly) risk harming or killing an innocent civilian, then you should probably participate in neither war nor armed struggle.

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                  Of course it wasn’t a genocide

                  Yes but you was comparing israel with the allies .

                  In either case, if you want never to (greatly) risk harming or killing an innocent civilian, then you should probably participate in neither war nor armed struggle.

                  Don’t tell any person in occupied land not to fight a war that they didn’t chose to but was forced among them

                  You would tell the same thing to Indian, Tunisian, Algerian etc? You would tell Nat turner to not oppose slave owners?

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                    Yes but you was comparing israel with the allies .

                    in regards to shooting Hamas punks and active supporters of the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran.

                    Don’t tell any person in occupied land not to fight a war that they didn’t chose to but was forced among them

                    I don’t and wouldn’t.

                    You would tell the same thing to Indian, Tunisian, Algerian etc?

                    Again, no, but wasn’t Gandhi a pacifist?

                    You would tell Nat turner to not oppose slave owners?

                    no. However, FWIW:

                    wp:Nat Turner’s Rebellion

                    The rebels killed White people without discriminating by age or sex.[16][17] Turner’s slaveowner and his family were the first to be killed. The rebels then traveled from house to house, freeing slaves and killing Whites.[15] Historian Stephen B. Oates writes that Turner called on his group to “kill all the white people”.[18]

                    According to the Richmond Enquirer, “Turner declared that ‘indiscriminate slaughter was not their intention after they attained a foothold, and was resorted to in the first instance to strike terror and alarm.’”[19] A few homes were spared “because Turner believed the poor White inhabitants ‘thought no better of themselves than they did of negroes.’”[18] The rebels also avoided the Giles Reese plantation, even though it was en route, likely because Turner wanted to keep his wife and children safe.[20] Turner confessed to killing only one person, Margaret Whitehead, whom he killed with a blow from a fence post.[15] The last house to be attacked was the Rebecca Vaughan House.