So the takeaway is that when we take power we should do the bad things the previous group in power did?
Seems like that’s the agenda these days.
Yeah, kind of sucks.
It sucks terribly.
It’s not the same thing.
Judging behaviour and actions is entirely different to judging people for who they are.
People are compiled of their actions and behaviors so I am not really getting what you are trying to say.
Some traits are inherent / congenital, historically these were used to judge and “cancel” people
Still are at times
I dont recall the religious right cancelling people due to their inherent characteristics. On the other hand, the left actively discriminates against people for the same thing.
Oh really? I wonder if a religions have ever used gender to define what roles a person can have and who gets a platform?
I’m not sure if we’re just definitely terms differently or you’re lacking an understanding of history here.
The religious right has always given a voice to a small number of people and cancelled everyone else
Index librorum prohibitorum
Burned heretics
Why yes, cancelling, shunning, etc is bad.
Literally every accusation from a right winger is a confession
A perfect meme!
Decades? Try centuries.
Just 2 centuries around here having inquisition in place made sure no other alternatives exist nowadays. Genocide is effective kids. Learn from History.
“Ikr?” - Galileo Galilei
Galileo Figaro
Cancelling, try torture and butchering.
A god damned millenia.
Two god damned millennia.
All of written history TBH. Other religions did the same thing before Christianity.
why is god damming us for so long?! /s
Because of the Original Sin. He is a fricking jealous and petty god.
Because of the Original Sin. He is a fricking jealous and petty god.
Never mind Christians- long before this “cancel culture” bullshit started, Republicans were perfectly happy to censor the Dixie Chicks and basically destroy their careers because they dared to criticize George W. Bush.
I’ve never heard any of them say that was wrong of them, just that cancel culture is the worst thing ever.
Decades? Millennia!
Actually, everybody complains about cancel culture. And Christians.
The campaigns to ban video games by Christian groups is one of the biggest examples of cancel culture in modern times.
That’s a long time ago. Didn’t that happen in the 90s?
The 90’s weren’t that long ago to some of us. But yes, in the 80’s and 90’s they rallied hard against music, and in the 90’s and early 2000’s against video games. Something positive did come out of it though. Music albums and video games didn’t have maturity ratings before all of that campaigning from the Christian Coalition. As a parent it’s nice to have a rating flag, so you know to check the content and see if you think it’s appropriate for your children.
My brother in Christ, I don’t know what planet you live on, but here on Earth, that was 30 years ago no matter where you live. And to my knowledge, none of the games and/or bands actually got cancelled because of it except on an individual basis (i.e. if you parents forbid you to have them at home). But in that case, we simply went to a friend’s house to play or listen to them there, so I’m not sure that this is really something worth getting all worked up over.
1990 was 34 years ago, but 1999 was only 25 years ago. When you get older, 25 years doesn’t seem like that long ago. I’m not sure if you’re implying that I’m getting worked up in your last sentence, but I’m not. I simply stated an observation. As far as the Christian Coalition, yes, they got really worked up.
Tons of albums were banned. 2 Live Crew had almost every one of their albums banned at one point or another. License to Ill by the Beasty Boys was banned. Everything from Too Short was banned. Tons of music was banned either from the radio, the record stores, or both. People went to jail over it. It was a big deal. Thankfully a lot of those bands sued and appealed, and moved the meter for artistic expression considerably, from then forwards.
You know you’re old when young people confidently explain to you things you witnessed first hand. Like Dee Snyder testifying in a Senate hearing.
So tone deaf.
how so?
See also: man gets shot, how could he do this.meme
Wait until they go broke buying trump bibles only to bemoan the lack of social welfare and health programs they continually try to kill.
If there’s anything Suzerain taught me over the last few days it’s that sometimes you have to pull an Urdnot Wrex and drag the ignorant forward before their own short sighted self interest gets everyone killed.
Yes I really enjoyed making two video game references lol
“Christians”
- Attend Churches where pastors and preachers proselytize about anything “Sinful”
- Call themselves Christian proudly
- Wears crosses
- Says its forbidden by God to do something that the Bible says is bad
- Uses the words of Saint Paul to expand on those words
Damn that sounds like they are Christian, but you know, I guess they’re “not true Christians” because they happen to do everything on Saturday instead of Sunday, or don’t wash the feet of the poor, or something else that caused a schism 200 years ago.
Jesus: Love thy neighbour
These people: act in ways that is the opposite of loving their neighbour
Sure as fuck sounds like they aren’t following the teaching of Jesus. Going to a church doesn’t make someone a Christian any more than going to my garage makes me a mechanic.
Weird. None of that actually mentions Jeeeeeeesus or the things he supposedly said and did.
Weird how all the hate comes from things the apparent Son of God didn’t do, but they chose to believe in those things instead.
It’s like they’re hypocrites. False shepards.
Fake Christians.
This staunch denial of any responsibility for other shitty Christians is why nobody likes or respects you. Do something about other hateful Christians, don’t just fucking deny that they exist. Pathetic
Lol, because I’m a Christian. Good spot, Sherlock.
I definitely don’t consider all theists basically non-sentient.
Oh, so you’re just a troll who wants to piss everyone off. You were kinda doing an OK job, but now it’s way too obvious. I hope this shit gets tired for you some day💖
Sure bro. Because there aren’t atheists who have noticed the discrepancy between the messaging in the Gospel, the rest of the Bible, and what parts bigots love to point to and what they love to ignore, and they can’t possibly think some kinds of theists are worse than others
Ya clown.
Never fails, Christians (ostensibly “”““real””“” ones lol) always go to this, such a convenient out for rancid, unserious, responsibility denying dingdongs
If I call myself a Scotsman, despite not meeting the definition of a Scotsman (never been to Scotland, have no Scottish heritage) then it would be fair to call me not a “True Scotsman.”
If the definition of “Christian” is “someone who follows the teachings of Jesus” then someone who spreads hate does not meet that definition.
If the definition of “Christian” is “anyone who calls themselves a Christian” then the definition is so broad it is useless as a descriptor. It includes someone who is loving and caring, and someone who abuses and murders anyone they disagree with. It tells you nothing about the individual or how they behave.
Incredibly convenient thing for “polite Christians” (read: enablers) to say while the overwhelmingly powerful structure borne of their freely given money, time, and prejudices ruins the country.
Replace the word “Christian” with “American” and your statement is just as valid.
If the definition of “Christian” is “someone who follows the teachings of Jesus”
If that’s your definition then there are no Christians.
Dolly Parton
I don’t think Dolly Parton hates her family.
If that’s your definition then there are no Christians.
Ok, so you’re going with the word is useless as a descriptor.
No, I’m saying that christians are people who claim to be christian.
No, I’m saying that christians are people who claim to be christian.
As I said, useless as a descriptor. By that definition the word “Christian” includes someone who donates time to charities, as well as someone who spreads hate about immigrants, wants them sent back to their own countries, and wants to bomb those countries.
The word “Christian” could be applied to a person that wants to take away a woman’s right to medical care, and to a person that is pro-choice.
Hell, the word “Christian” could apply to someone who has never set foot inside a church, has never seen a Bible, and has no idea what’s even in it, as long as they “claim they are a Christian.”
By that definition if I tell you someone is a Christian it doesn’t tell you if that person loves Trans people or hates them. As I said, a useless descriptor.
Why is this getting upvoted? OP is using irony. The No True Scotsman fallacy requires refuting a counterexample as well as “The modification is signalled by the use of non-substantive rhetoric such as “true”, “pure”, “genuine”, “authentic”, “real”, etc.” Check out the “Occurrence” section.
Why is this getting upvoted?
Because there are people who really don’t like how right wing conservative Christians behave, but also for some reason hate when other Christians agree that the behaviour is unacceptable and call them out on it.
You’re not calling out shit. You’re refusing any responsibility by claiming they’re not even really Christian. They are, and until you admit that, nobody gives a fuck about your claims to the contrary. Christians can be shit, that doesn’t make them not Christian you absolute dingus. If you’d actually read the Bible you’d know that slavery and homophobia and sexism are as fundamentally Christian as any love thy neighbor shit
Republicans: Act in hateful ways
Guy: “That behavior is contrary to the book you claim to follow”
Everyone: cheers
Christian: “I agree!”
You: “nO tRuE sCoTsMaN!!!1!”
???
You suck at telling stories like this lmao, you’re the one no true scotsmaning shitty Christians to try and avoid any flak for being associated with them. Legit this comment is utterly incomprehensible, tf is your point? Who’s guy? Who’s everyone? I assure you far from everyone thinks that republicans aren’t real Christians
Let me simplify it for you:
The argument that everyone who claims to be a Christian is a Christian, and also every Christian belongs to the same group and is responsible for the actions of everyone who claims to be a Christian, is patently absurd.
You can have two people with wildly different beliefs, but if they both use the label Christian somehow they are both responsible for the actions of each other.
Real
