Summary
China condemned JD Vance on Tuesday for calling Chinese people “peasants” in a Fox News interview, where he said, “To make it a little more crystal clear, we borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture.”
The Chinese Foreign Ministry labeled the remarks “ignorant and disrespectful.”
The backlash exploded on Chinese social media, garnering 140 million Weibo views.
Critics mocked Vance’s own “hillbilly” background and pointed to China’s advanced tech and infrastructure, highlighting rising tensions amid Trump’s trade war.
They have to be Russian plants or smt right? Nothing they do make sense otherwise.
If Putin is supposedly a Xi servant, why would Trump, who supposedly serves Putin, engage in economic war with China?
I don’t think it’s Russia anymore, I think they are just Americans. Russian gov is probably laughing at the free clout they are getting from this ordeal.
I don’t think America is what people think it is. Now or 20 years ago.
America has always had a skewed view of itself
It’s dark. From my own life experiences I think it’s much darker than people could ever imagine. Once your see past the veil America becomes something horrific. I think there is a greater force in control and they own America outright at this point, and are working to overpower other nations the same way they did America. Not a group per se but and ideology that is toxic to human life. What some might call an evil force.
We are living in a new age of war beyond governments, surrounded by people that misunderstand life and existence and want desperately a savior to bring them back to their old lifestyles of privileged materialism and existential escapism. They want others to fight their battle for honest genuine life and because of that they will lose. People need to find the role they play. Scholars, teachers, “good” criminals, fighters, warriors, lovers, and spiritual leaders …honest human beings need to stop clinging to the old lifestyle and live like we are in a psychological war that pushes against true respectable genuine humanity.
These people are so stupid, I cannot. I wish I was as blitzed as they were so I didn’t have to pay attention either.
…I hate laughing at the downfall of my own country, but we definitely had it coming. I guess Chinese is the new lingua franca. Anyway, can someone help me understand why “Ma” in Mandarin means both weed and mom? How do I buy weed in Beijing?
You can’t. At least not legally.
U can ask Mom for weed by saying ma ma
Make it a question with a third ma.
So “ma ma ma?” (妈麻吗?)
Mandarin has 4 (technically 5) tones so “ma” could be any one of those 4 different pronunciations. Furthermore, there are many completely different words that have the same tone/pronunciation. You just learn through context (same way as you do with English homophones)
Mom in mandarin is 媽 (mā) whereas weed is 麻 (má). Colloquially you can also say 大麻 (dàmá) for weed.
How legal is weed in China? I bet the impression the regime is anti drugs
Just spit balling here but probably execution level legal.
take this as you will, it is copy pasted from a site. most other sources i saw up to reading this said the same shit, so it is probably fairly accurate
The Punishment for Marijuana in China
Possession & Use: Individuals caught with marijuana or using marijuana will face administrative detention between 10 to 15 days, as well as fines of up to 2,000 yuan ($280 USD). Trafficking and Distribution: Selling or distributing marijuana is a crime. Punishment for those found guilty of handling over 50 grams includes a minimum three-year prison sentence, with life incarceration or death being possible penalties for larger weights (or in special cases). Marijuana Cultivation: Growing cannabis is another criminal offense, no matter how many plants. People arrested for growing marijuana could spend five years in jail and pay a hefty fine. For larger amounts, the punishment is even steeper.Thanks!
Possession is much lighter than I was expecting.
There is probably a lot of pressure to give up the supplier.
you also use ma at the end of the sentences to form a question, to make it more confusing
Also, even before you go into the nitty gritty, there are homonyms in English too, so I don’t get why OP needs an explanation.
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Not to mention Chinese is quite the endeavor to learn, Esperanto would make way more sense.
Just Dumb is a fucking numbnut.
JD Vance is such a little bitch.
Hopefully china will sanction JD Vancer.
I never thought I would say, “You Go China!!” (Is that bad?)
No. Considering present-day America and China, one of those nations is far more reliable and far more stable.
ML, grad and hexbear are patiently waiting for your apologies. Sad that the line the US had to cross wasn’t imperialism and genocide, but losing decorum and imposing tariffs on treats…
I’m an anarchist. I have always been at odds with the American state. I have been arguing against genocide apologists since the Palestinian genocide began. China is not a perfect state. They are authoritarian. They are at odds with me ideologically, and I have many criticisms of their past and present state. It’s possible to both acknowledge the extent of anti-china propaganda output by the American state, and also that China is a country that has its own history past and present of human rights abuses and workers rights abuses.
This is basically 1:1 with my thoughts, would it be cool if I paraphrased/copy paste this for future use?
Sure, by all means.
Thank you, I wanted to at least ask first.
Sure, you just mentioned “present-day”, and I thought maybe you referred that things have changed somehow. The US has always been imperialist and genocidal in nature, that’s why I got triggered by the “present-day” part of your initial comment and to what I was responding.
I had a longer comment typed up initially but opted for something shorter since it was likely falling on deaf ears anyway. Yes, America was founded by genocidal colonialists. Genocide and Western imperialism are foundational American institutions.
Cool, good to see that we’re on the same page, sorry for the aggressive tone in my first comment.
wtf dumbass attacks asian face
Coming from the hick from Appalachia.
The stereotype at that. A dumb hick from Appalachia. Which isn’t really fare to the people from there anymore. I’ve met serveral people from there who were fair minded and of reasonable intelligence. Just not that waste of breath.
I knew a girl from China and this is a huge insult to them. Being seen or labeled as rural is very embarrassing in their culture. She was ashamed because she grew up on her uncle’s pig farm.
I think the shame is on the part of all Americans as this is on them sadly even the good ones.
Farmers should be respected, they are feeding the world.
I agree. I was just providing a cultural perspective as to why this would be such a big deal for them.
But then they vote republican…
You have a point US farmer voted Trumpican.
Republicans seem to have changed a lot over the years. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/09/reagan-trump-republicans/679746/
Many jobs are equally essential, I don’t get why people lose their asses over farmers specifically. It’s not like they feed the people out of charity, it’s their job to do so, and they get paid to do it.
I respect farmers as long as they aren’t ignorant and conservative.
I respect farmers as long as they’re not abusing migrant labour at illegal wages… So, I barely respect farmers.
exactly and they should be equally respected like other workers.
Well, in as much as they’re workers, yeah. When instead they’re landowners who illegally employ immigrants in order to pay them misery wages under the counter, fuck them. Farmers can be extremely reactionary and exploitative too, in a way that say, a supermarket cashier, simply can’t be.
you are right but if you compare landowner you should compare to other owner like supermarket owner, store owner, there are also store owner who hire illegals worker/casher paying them miserable cash wages.
Exactly my point: many farmers aren’t working class, they’re petit-bourgeois, which explains why there are so many reactionary tendencies among them. The farmers who are working class deserve praise, the ones who are landowners don’t.
Yup that is true.
Meanwhile they all can be gulag’d at any time by their cruel dictator. They are all serfs in that aspect.
Man yeah, a country where you can be sent to an extra territorial jail with no due process and absolutely no recourse because the Man said so.
That sounds scary!They are victims, not “peasants” or “serfs”.
Serfs were victims, it’s roughly equivalent to slavery to be a serf
Right but it’s a nicer word to use imo.
Why are we softening the image of slavery? A spade is a fucking spade
Why do you think the article is upset at Vance? He should have said “We borrow money from them to buy the things they manufacture.” Mentioning ethnicity or the word peasant is clearly racist. Even if he wanted to drive it home, he could have said “We borrow money from these victims of slavery…” but it wouldn’t have made any sense of course that way. It was racist.
What’s the incarceration rate in China? You guys are so fucking racist by swallowing the Anti-Chinese propaganda I swear to god.
What’s the youth unemployment?
The answer is it doesn’t matter, its a dictatorship that curates the truth.
Have you not looked at western media during the GENOCIDE in Gaza? All of them collectively talking about “war in Israel and Palestine”, playing both sides, and curating the truth. For fuck’s sake, the average Republican in the USA lives in a completely different world of covid denialism, and thinks Elon performed an accidental Roman salute.
Does Bernie Sanders get arrested and put in a reeducation camp for speaking out against it, as he would in China?
Those are just two examples from the past month. Edward Snowden? Julian Assange? Do those names ring a bell?
Also, Bernie is openly not against the genocide in Gaza. He openly talks of “Israel’s right to defend itself” and consistently talks of the “war” (not the GENOCIDE) using bothsideism
That’s just because all the development happened in cities. It’s easier to educate people when they live in a place with more funding.
In 2020 or so the income inequality in china was equal to that of USA. Meaning that rural places didn’t have sufficient funding.
But now the gini is down to 0,36. Meaning that there’s more widespread funding.
China seems to be willing. While the inequality in USA is by design to attract capital
Rising tensions with China? I was told that’s what the Democrats were going to do if they won. 🤷♂️
Maga said that Biden was under CCP control.
Now looks who is under Kremlin control.
Projection.
Wait, I thought Trump is Putin’s puppet and Putin is Xi’s puppet?
They did.
They don’t say thank you and they do not wear suits! Send them directly to Venezuela.
Don’t take it personally, China. He feels the same way about the majority of Americans including his own family. He’s got a chip on his shoulder bc he grew up among the peasant class, made it to the Ivy Leagues and has desperately been trying to claw his way into a social level he’ll never be accepted to bc he wasn’t born into it.
From his POV you’re either a peasant, or you’re an elitist. Unless you’re part of the 1% of billionaires and generational wealth. Somehow that makes you an average Joe, and that’s why you benefit the most from Vance’s policies and “beliefs” (whatever he may need them to be in the moment).
Vance is not dumb, but he certainly acts like a useful idiot.
How is he not dumb? I’ve seen his texts in private chats. That’s not meant for the public. And god damn does he seem dumb
He can get there despite being dumb. Plenty of really dumb people end up on top. Not because of their intelligence but because of their complete lack of regard for others.
I mean isn’t Trump’s penguin tariff plan to make American peasants instead?
hillbilly not smart, chinese angry, me have to read this bs day in day out
