Former President Donald Trump on Saturday stood by his 2019 statement that writer E. Jean Carroll made a “totally false accusation” against him, despite similar claims resulting in him losing a defamation case in January.
Campaigning at a rally in Rome, Georgia, Trump referenced the $91.6 million bond he posted on March 8, three days before his deadline to pay $83.3 million in damages to Carroll for defaming her in statements he made as president after denying her accusation that he’d raped her in a department store dressing room in the 1990s.
Carroll first came forward in 2019 with sexual assault claims against Trump before another civil trial in May 2023, where a New York jury found that the former president sexually abused Carroll but didn’t rape her.
What a beautiful web site! Thank you for sharing.
If I was his lawyer I may try arguing his mental state prevents him from understanding the words he says. I’m not a lawyer, but that’s the only explanation I can think of as to why he keeps this up. There’s a lot to say about his base, but honestly they can ignore things as they do with the rulings. He’s got plenty of other people he can go after, plenty of hate he could spend time on. He just keeps sticking his hand in this piranha bowel. He’s an idiot.
Being mentally unwell rarely keeps someone out of jail.
his mental state prevents him from understanding the words he says
What a delightful precedent that would set
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Is your position that sexual abuse cant occur to an adult, that when it occurs it can and should be laughed off (what other physical abuses should be treated the same) or a third position entirely?
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Absolutely sociopathic response.
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Look bud, I don’t know what kind of mental illness you have, but I recommend three things:
- Stop being chronically online
- Go outside and touch grass
- Exercise
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Do you really think it’s prudent to openly defend sexual assault in this manner, or to make blanket statements that victims are faking their trauma?
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Found the rapist.
Jesus fucking Christ dude
Trump literally put his fingers inside her in a dressing room according to the deposition. But sure. Let Trump put his fingers inside you bruv, I’m sure it won’t be traumatizing.
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Charging him to do it implies consent. This wasn’t consensual. The entire conversation has been about non consensual sexual contact.
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How much would you charge for letting him do the same thing to your daughter?
Murder.
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Ah hah! And there it is, ladies and gentlemen, the root of BaronOfHair’s bizarre stance: plain ol’ misogyny!
Lol. Nice troll.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t you say that meekly taking any abuse, violence, assault, harassment etc without standing up to the perpetrators would be the weak thing to do? Today we ain’t taking shit from people who think they can exert power over us and the people who used to get away with it don’t seem to like that much.
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The irony of the GOP going bankrupt because they have to donate all their money to women’s charities after selling the party out to this buffoon is so think I could choke on it.
“I just posted a $91 million bond, $91 million on a fake story, totally made-up story,” Trump said, adding that the judgment was, “based on false accusations made about me by a woman that I knew nothing about, didn’t know, never heard of, I know nothing about her.”
What a dumbass.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
Yet, more than half of the US are prepared to elect him as their representation.
Hmm…
Yep. Here we go again.
He cannot control himself. He truly can’t help it. Hit him again!
FWIW the New York jury found that she didn’t prove he forced his penis inside of her. They found he did force his fingers inside of her vagina. In New York state law, that is sexual assault but not rape. It is rape according to federal law, and most colloquial uses of the term “rape.” Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll, that is what was proven in court.
He wasn’t charged with rape in either state or federal court, because the statute of limitations had expired when she went public with her story.
So it’s important to be clear, the jury did not find him innocent of rape. They found he did commit an act that is widely considered rape. It’s inaccurate to say that they found he didn’t rape her. They found that the act that had been proven did not meet the narrow New York state law standard for rape.
Juries never find you innocent of anything. They find you not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. That is a big difference.
Anyone who claims that a court found them innocent is lying.
And no one is innocent if you count original sin. Boom!
BTW, ‘guilty beyond a reasonable doubt’ is the determinative threshold for criminal litigation. It’s less strict for civil.
This was a civil case, not a criminal case. They were deciding liability not guilt.
Fine, but they also did not find him “not guilty” of rape because he wasn’t charged with rape. He was sued for making defamatory statements, and the jury found that he had forcibly penetrated her with his fingers and then claimed he didn’t.
That is rape. In New York, it would not be enough to convict him of rape, but he wasn’t on trial for rape so the New York State legal definition is irrelevant. He was not found “not guilty” of rape.
Maybe, but the judge also clarified that he would be guilty of rape had the statute of limitations not run out.
The judge said exactly what I said. He did not say that Trump would be guilty of rape, he said that Trump raped Carroll. There’s a difference.
They found he did force his fingers inside of her vagina.
I thought it was that he put something inside her, but she was unable to clarify if it was his penis or finger.
Either way, it would have been tiny and malformed.
“His fingers went into my vagina, which was extremely painful,” Ms. Carroll said. Then, she said, he inserted his penis.
-NYT (see below)
I’d never seen it specified exactly… horrible to read.
And the part where he sicced the goon squad on her while claiming the whole story was made up?
Just put this one on his tab.
The idiot that fronted him that money is, well, an idiot.
They are all betting he gets elected again in which case none of these cases matter
He probably got some decent collateral for the effort. That may not have been that dumb of a move. For everything Trump has done, I think it will be wonderful if the thing that destroys him isn’t the fraud or the insurrection, but his inability to shut the fuck up over what was originally a minor financial inconvenience to him. I just hope he keeps spending RNC money faster than it can be donated.
Court records filed Friday show that the bond was guaranteed by the Chubb Corporation, an insurance group. In 2018, Trump appointed Chubb’s CEO Evan Greenberg to a White House advisory committee for trade policy and negotiations.
When you have more stupid in your head than money in your bank.
I knew he couldn’t shut the fuck up.
The year is 2065. E. Jean Carroll is the richest human alive. She rules a business empire that stretches across the globe and even to Mars. This empire does not charge for services, sell products or even take investor funding.
Its only source of revenue is suing the immortal cyborg that is Donald Trump, who even after 40 years of taking Ls is still pathologically unable to keep his fucking mouth shut.
Black Mirror has been too on the nose lately.
Love it. Every time he can’t help himself, he’ll get a larger and larger financial slap. Next ones gonna be pretty big.
I wonder if this is a legal strategy so he keeps getting sued in the hopes of finding a judge\jury that finds in his favor, then he can challenge the other cases based on the last case?
The first case was the finding of fact that he did, in fact, sexually assult E. Jean Carroll.
In order for that finding of fact to be overturned, an appeals court would need to rule on that for that first case. Appeals courts overturning a finding of fact is incredibly rare. I believe that, because that fact has been found, the burden of proof is now on the appellant (Trump) to prove that the finding was incorrect.
The additional defamation cases rely on the finding of fact, and Trump’s big fat mouth. Unless and until that fact is overturned (Narrator: It won’t be.), Trump will lose every one of them. Even if he doesn’t, that wouldn’t change anything about the remaining cases where he was found to be defamatory.
Defamation requires that a reasonable person would believe the claims he is making. At some point, it will be completely unreasonable for anyone to believe anything he says, at which point he can never defame anyone ever again.
I thought we were there when he ran against Hillary…
Defamation requires that a reasonable person would believe the claims he is making
Ke stoll has crowds paying to hear him speak, while they wear hats and t-shirts with his name on them.
Of course there is the whole issue of determining if any of them can legally be considered “reasonable persons”…
Nope. It doesn’t work like that. You can’t just lie so much that you can say whatever you want because no one will believe you. Wtf lol
It does, actually.
For example, if I were to tell everyone in this community that Randomgal is a pedophile, that would constitute defamation. It is a false assertion presented as fact, and a reasonable person could believe it to be true. Randomgal’s reputation would be damaged by such a statement.
If I tell everyone that Randomgal fucks three headed aliens from the planet Morgonne XII, that does not constitute defamation, because no reasonable person would consider that to be a true statement. Randomgal’s reputation is not damaged by such a statement.
Some “reasonable person” has to believe Trump’s claims for those claims to constitute defamation.
Bro, who hurt you?
A three-headed alien from Morgonne XII.
Exactly my point.
He is completely incapable of keeping his big mouth shut.
Seems like a great attribute for a president, no?
I mean didn’t he tweet classified satellite photos to prove a point once? The question was rhetorical, he did.
Donkey, you HAVE the right to remain silent. What you lack is the capacity.
And people want this dumbass to lead the USA?
They love a bully
