It’s so fucking annoying when a popular sub has or gets compromised mods, for any type of propaganda.

Also, fuck Putin.

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      That sub, or at least one of the mods, loves to remove verifiable info or posts with included reputable sources as misinformation. Then without warning issue a 8 year ban.

      The place is starting to look like r/politics echo chamber

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        The 8 year ban thing was a problem in Boost which has been fixed. You’d enter a 1 or 3 day ban and it mis-calculated the seconds to miliseconds thing and… poof. I had to fix more than a few of those.

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      They’re definitely not immune, they’re just not nearly as bad as .ml

      .world is more subtle about it but it’s there.

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      OP is likely talking about !politics@lemmy.world, given the modlog of that community showing many of his comments being correctly removed, and then he was issued a one day ban.

      This is not about liking Putler or not. He was behaving like a wild monkey.

      (I’m totally stealing “I mean, more importantly, please wipe your mother’s cum off your chin before speaking to me” as an insult though.)

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        I don’t know what drove OP, but .ml has a tendency to take moderator or even admin action against anything containing the word “tankies”. Many of those admin actions weren’t warranted, in my opinion. It doesn’t help that the admins taking this action can be the devs behind Lemmy. I think it’s no secret that .ml and lemmygrad used to be hosted by the same people on the same server, though they seem to have split off these days.

        In the end: their server, their rules. I tend to avoid .ml communities because I disagree with them, but they’re free to police their server as they wish. I do wish they would make their pro-communism stance more visible, though.

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          What I’m going to say is probably biased after I’ve cracked some tins because I’m a communist, but.

          lemmy.ml is a case aside; the issue with its admin team is not “tankiness”, but lack of transparency and willingness to gaslight users, Reddit style, to believe that they’re enforcing a small set of rules, when the actual rules are wider, and full of hidden rules. Three examples:

          • criticism against either the Russian Federation or the People’s Republic of China - two governments - gets silenced as “rule 1”, i.e. xenophobia. This is specially bad coming from communists that were supposed to understand the difference between a population and a part of an abstract structure of power.
          • you can’t fucking hold a decent conversation with lolbertarians¹ without the lolbertarian getting “magically” banned as “rule 2”. If you don’t get the difference between a disagreement and rudeness, why did you even leave Reddit, you bloody spez wannabes?
          • the whole fiasco handling ani.social. First one of them lies² that ani.social hosts CSAM (it doesn’t), to justify defederation and removing it from the join-lemmy page³; then as c/anime users were talking about migrating the community to ani.social, wrecking two discussions about it under the bullshit claim that it was “doxxing” said admins⁴. (It’s actually a bit worse.)

          If it was just “their server, their rules”, it would be a-OK. Except that it’s more like “we have rules lol. We won’t tell you all of them lmao. And if you break the hidden ones we’re going to gaslight you and other suckers = users into believing that you broke one of the stated rules.”

          I think it’s no secret that .ml and lemmygrad used to be hosted by the same people on the same server, though they seem to have split off these days.

          It’s more than that. Without saying who’s who, the admin teams of LG and lemmy.ml overlap.

          And… frankly I used to be a lemmygrad user, a lot of those actions (such as getting rid of people criticising communism) wouldn’t be out-of-place in LG, because it’s transparently an instance for us commies. lemmy.ml is not.

          [Sorry for the rambling. I’ve been with this shit in my chest since the ani.social fiasco.]


          1. By “lolbertarian” I mean those muppets who claim that capitalism will solve social issues. Sure, I disagree with them; but it’s a mistake to lump them alongside the alt right as “BIGOTS FUCK OFF”.
          2. I’m being kind by saying that they’re just lying. The alternative would be worse.
          3. To be fair with the same admin team: another of the admins reverted the decision regarding join-lemmy. Props to that admin.
          4. Worth noting that all lemmy.ml admins use pseudonyms. It gets worse for a specific admin that uses a pseudonym that implies a shared account.
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        lmfao gotem

        I’ll give OP that removing the comment “you sound like a Putin shill” is kinda borderline but it seems to much more be the straw that broke the camel’s back. Dude clearly broke rules several times going back months and got given kid gloves treatment. Homie got like 12 strikes til you’re out and “out” ended up being a 24h ban LOL

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    To me, instances are like countries. c/Politics@lemmy.ml is not the same as c/Politics@lemmy.world because lemmy.ml culture and policies are different from lemmy.world. In this case, go to c/Politics@lemmy.world.

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    I love that OP got bored arguing across many different threads, so just invited everyone here to comb through his mod log and start all the arguments over all over again, in one place.

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    Dude. All you need to do to stop getting comments removed is to stop going for insults as a method of argument. Your modlog would make a Drill Sergeant blush.

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      The flood of Putin worshipers trying to sell the idea that everybody except for Russia are white supremacists who have to be killed by Russia is pretty obnoxious.

      They don’t even write to the topics they are responding on, they just leave 5 page copy paste essays on the CIA, a group that isn’t elected or representative of the American people in any way.

      I tangled with them in one of their subs and they scrubbed all my questions about what part of executing Navalny secretly in prison was justice.

      They say he said bad words so secret state killing was justified but also there is no proof it was a secret killing as Russia is perfect.

      It’s exhausting to have to share space with these people.

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        Wonder how they excuse Putin arresting people for attending the funeral. Wait I can already predict that: It’s all NATO propaganda that is all a lie.

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          No response removed my comment lmao.

          Yes I literally asked about this.

  • a lil bee 🐝@lemmy.world
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    It’s the Fediverse. Go make/run your own. I’m no tankie fan, but if somebody puts in the work to set up and moderate a sub, they kinda get to own that space.

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    Not sure what you’re on about, but I can’t help myself but upvote a “fuck Putin.”

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    Just stay off of .ml and you’ll have a way better experience. Too much wrongthink policing going on over there to have any meaningful conversations, you just get DAE capitalism bad or TIL everything wrong in the world is because NATO. It’s boring.

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    Is this the lemmy.ml politics community? I’ve stopped short at blocking that server, but I don’t sub to communities there any more. Most of those communities already have alts on other servers.

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      Blocking all of .ml as if they were lemmygrad would kick out a rather large amount of Lemmy users who don’t know about all this.

      I would avoid political communities on .ml, though.

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        Any community in .ml is dangerous, got a 3 month ban from asklemmy answering a question. The ban actually proved my point.

        Defederating from .ml for their moderation and idolizing of totalitarian regimes would be better for the rest of lemmy… The people that run that instance are no better than MAGAts.

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        Blocking instances through your settings will only block posts and communities from these instances, not the users from these instances. You’ll still see their comments in other communities just fine.

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      All of em. Some worse than others.

      Except for the Nazi ones, I guess, but that’s no better.

      The mild infuriation prompting this post was a shadow ban on .world for calling out a tankie. All my posts removed, all his stayed up.

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      .world, the mod log is posted elsewhere in this thread and it’s just comment after comment of OP hurling abuse at people.

      Ops just a whiney little shit.

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        Just checked and they are, indeed, a crass sort. I don’t necessarily disagree with everything they said buuut I can see why they’d get the day of time out. Modding’s easier sans hostile users.

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    My ideology is the minority for the first time no :(((( how coukd this happen

    Im not being supported by the dominant political establishment

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      Nah. Your instance has trash mods.

      People shouldn’t get comments removed for saying Russia is the clear bad guy concerning Ukraine. Or that Russia created any number of issues their propaganda attempts to project back on others. If stating objective reality isn’t allowed, .ml is no better than what right-wing assholes have been doing on Reddit since 2015.

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        I have been critical of russia a number of times even on hexbear and never had anything removed. Its about the way you criticize not the criticism itself

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          That’s good. Maybe since your account is there such criticism is viewed differently.

          But that’s not the case for others. And that reality is being shared right now by multiple people in this thread.

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      There’s a huge difference between having an opinion that is unpopular in a community and having your opinion silenced for wrongthink.

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        That’s why I’m glad we now have a normal community. I was on Lemmy before and it was a totally different place.

        I remember asking if everyone on Lemmy if there was a communist free area before I was removed.