France uncovers a vast Russian disinformation campaign in Europe::undefined
These dudes look like we’ve just walked in on them kissing
So we are doing the Russian thing again? An easy scapegoat to blame for everything. Western propaganda like this is more dangerous to society than fictional the Boogeyman
JFC, choose to be better.
Here you are, presented with facts and you just ignore them and start spouting more right wing garbage, truly worthless
Russia Russia Russia
I was about to tag you, but your username is rather apt
literally get fucked you russian piece of shit
Joseph Mccarthy wants his Red scare propaganda back
i’m from europe, you cum nugget
Same red scare propaganda
Yes, we’re doing this Russia thing again, because, like last time (though it’s never truly stopped) we are confronted with evidence of a wide-reaching disinformation campaign. Yes, it’s an easy scapegoat because Russia is actually the one at fault here. Crazy, right?
Try to make sure not to make yourself look like a complete idiot the next time you sit down to write a comment.
Rightwing idiots are already drooling to swallow up everything they say.
Russian propaganda is big on the left, too.
Uncovering these rings, publicizing them, and shutting them down needs to be a top priority. I think a lot, if not most, of the bad decisions made by voters stem from these kind of bad actors. We’ve let it go on for long enough.
You’d have thought publicising them would involve not only saying they exist, but also educating people about what the misinformation is. As far as I can tell from a quick scan, the article doesn’t talk about the message the proganda is pushing. I’m just as clueless as before about what I should believe and what I shouldn’t.
Are the public just meant to know when they’re being lied to?
Yes this should have been done better. I remember when they did the same thing in the USA they at least listed all of them so you could to see what they were up to.
Not only voters, also politicians. Everyone can be influenced, even those in power :)
Shocked Pikachu is Shocked
I really prefer the Israeli and the USA disinformation campaigns /s
Fucking neoliberals… decades of neoliberal economic policy, imperialism and media conglomeration allowed this fertile ground in the first place.
Add to that, that every news is owned by someone, makes a minimum of 50% of its revenue from ads, and gets the rest of its revenue from paying customers from a class with expandable income who don’t want their worldview challenged or destroyed… It is really scary, how easy it is to manipulate public opinion by simple strategically choosing how facts are reported (pictures of humans vs. reporting numbers, wording, etc.), which facts are reported in the first way and where to position the information (top of page vs. footer). It is fun to call out Russia, instead calling out the ruling class, companies, the western governments etc. They all lie and they all try to control/direct public discourse.
Without paywall. (Initially posted the same link, but then I noticed their comment. Leaving mine up since theirs doesn’t explicitly say what the link is)
Oh, are we all on the “Russia Did It” train for this election cycle? Can’t wait to see what other regurgitated meaningless talking points people are gonna dig up to convince dumbasses to keep playing the political game.
Slava Ukraini
Blue Hitler over Red Hitler
The world must be a pretty small and scary place for binary thinkers like you. Hope things start looking up for ya!
It’s about to be tiny and horrific for everyone regardless of their stances, but you can keep pretending voting for Biden will help at all. Meanwhile, I am going to just vote No Confidence and then not worry about it anymore. Deal with it.
Can you detail for me how voting No Confidence (which would be a write in, at least for presidential elections) works in the US? Additionally, how does this vote impact decisions any way more or less than voting for any candidate?
You’d think an agent would do better than to out themselves with things like that, but i guess Russia isn’t exactly known for competence.
how are you going to vote in an US election with your russian passport, you absolute nonce
And now we’re onto the “Russian spy” talking point as if that hasn’t been beaten to death already.
You’re really, really not convincing me to go along with your charade. And you need my vote far more than I need anything from you.
i need you to shut the fuck up, since you are not, let me say it in a language you’ll understand: Иди нахуй, сука.
How is this meaningless, dumbass?
Because it’s the same regurgitated talking points that haven’t worked and have done nothing since 2016.
Retard.
get fucked, you russian piece of shit
Out of curiosity can anyone point out to me some of this russian disinformation? There’s so much western propaganda around that i really can’t find any
Here’s a great book on the subject: https://www.amazon.com/Putins-Trolls-Frontlines-Russias-Information/dp/1632461293
Turn of FOX News. If you can stand it.
It doesn’t really air in Europe though.
What would you say is your version of a media company run by fascist Russian sympathizers used to destabilize populations where you’re from? You can just substitute that.
Ya I gotchu, fam. https://www.washingtonblade.com/content/files/2017/11/Bernie_Sanders_in_speedo_460x470_courtesy_House_Intelligence_Committee.jpg
They moved mountains with this one.
Right now, France is gripped by a large labor revolt in the agricultural sector being driven by the state’s effort to increase agricultural imports from North Africa and Eastern Europe while reducing state price-supports for down-year crops. This threatens to lead to large scale real estate consolidation and foreign real estate purchase. Nationalists, agricultural owner-operators, and farmers exposed to rising interest rates (basically all of them) don’t like this very much.
However, claiming the heartland farmers of rural France are angry at Macron for selling out the agg sector to financial interests in Brussels and Zurich isn’t going to be too popular as we approach the 2024 EU Parliamentary elections. So we’re getting an earful about how all these local yokels are hoodwinked by anti-EU Russian Propaganda.
If you’re not in favor of truckloads of exported Ukranian agricultural salvage ending up competing with fresh French produce on store shelves, then you’re a secret spy for Putin and a traitor.
A perfect demonstration of how Russian indoctrination works right here.
Original reporting: A major disinfo attack against Europe being prepared by Russia is uncovered through diligent investigation and published and reported on.
The response:
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- divert to farmer’s dissatisfaction with several policies
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- cast disinfo reports as underhanded attempts (by politician Russia wants gone) to arrogantly brush off farmer’s concerns (which the report never even related to)
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- claim Macron is selling out to EU (here, have a serving of anti-EU sentiment, too)
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- vaccinate reader against the disinfo being countered (“everyone who tells you otherwise belittles you and hates you, join us in our righteous anger”)
Emotional framing:
Nationalists, agricultural owner-operators, and farmers exposed to rising interest rates
“truckloads of exported Ukranian agricultural salvage” vs. “fresh French produce”
we’re getting an earful about how all these local yokels are hoodwinked by anti-EU Russian Propaganda
Macron for selling out the agg sector to financial interests in Brussels
“If you’re not in favor of (insert supposed evil acts described in lurid way), then you’re a secret spy for Putin and a traitor.”
Result: The reader comes out the other end an angry person, outraged about the plight of farmers, outraged again at disinfo reports supposedly serving to silence them, outraged once more at a France politician selling them out to the EU, EU painted as high-and-mighty villain, automatic anger against anyone who tells them a different viewpoint ready to trigger.
A major disinfo attack
The question was “What disinformation is being circulated?”
And the answer is “By answering this you are doing Russian propaganda”
Result: The reader comes out the other end an angry person
Isn’t that the same result as the original “Russia is doing an evil propaganda” headline?
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Russia Today comes to mind
I’m expecting a really nasty autumn this year. A big chunk of Russia’s campaign against Europe is held up by Ukraine and they badly need a stooge US president again.
Musk also opened Twitter’s doors wide for state-sponsored manipulation and agitation campaigns. All protections are offline and the teams are gone, under the guise of free speech.
To add: Twitter under Musk also complies with all government censorship requests since Musk took over. News on Twitter has been hugely influential in the past in protests in authoritarian states, but that’s clearly a thing of the past now.
Full compliance with government censorship was 83% in may last year, up from the 50% it was before Musk.
And partial + full compliance was at 98.8%, up from 92% before Musk. And the remaining 1.2% were not denied, just status unknown, so it’s basically 100%.
I wonder what the current numbers are and how the full/partial takedowns are geographically distributed. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if partial compliance was limited to some western countries and it’s full compliance everywhere else.
Elon Musk, the self declared “free speech absolutist”, what a shithead.
Why even fund uncovering these. Just build your systems with this as a consideration. If it’s not Russia it will be someone else.
‘Just’
Yeah I hear you
Just make sure all information is correct. How hard can it be?
To prove that they’re real. Without proof it can be seen as a conspiracy
How do you defend against something without first uncovering it and seeing how it works?
Reason number %large_number% + 1 why support for Ukraine cannot falter. Russia cannot win its offensive there and continue to spread its poison across the world.
No shit .
finally?!
