• Happytongue@lemm.ee
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    The really funny thing about this article and about the comments is that some asshole wrote “sends MAGA into meltdown” trying to equate just a few people’s opinion as that of an entire “movement’s” (if you could even call it a movement, I think the term MAGA shouldn’t even refer to any group of people - it’s simply an expression that people can have without referring to anything else at all. But whatever) opinion. That not just wrong, it’s incredibly lazy opinion writing under the guise of journalism. To read that and not just ignore it does not applaude one’s judgement when it comes to information that needs to be shared. This is made worse by taking it seriously and then reflecting its lazy judgement towards a large portion of the population and further claiming that they are racists. Believing in a false claim of a meltdown, then arguing its validity AND throwing in racism is so absurd in its duplicity, that’s it comes across like a claim that a 6th grader might make. And that is a serious take. Anyone with any reasonable adult intelligence should be able to critically judge what is written as news these days, but that, unfortunately does not seem to be the case.

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    FUCK MAGA. Every single one of them can fuck right off. They are babies, snowflakes, mouth breathing morons. They can’t think for themselves, they have to be told how to feel. I wish these lemmings would walk out into the ocean and feed the sharks.

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    Wait. I thought the black national anthem was that From the Window to the Wall song.

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    What doesn’t send them into a meltdown? It’s almost like they’re the things that melt easily that they’re so fond of calling everyone else.

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        Old enough to remember when they went berserk over florescent light bulbs.

        Old enough to remember when they lost their minds, because Obama suggested they check their tire pressure.

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            LEDs are definitely an improvement on an improvement. But I’ll never get why people got angry at bulbs that were cooler, brighter, and cheaper by life expectancy than their old filament bulb counterparts.

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                Reactance. They didn’t feel like they had a choice.

                Only because they weren’t a sizable market share.

                CFLs were different and buzzy and the color was off.

                Engineering problems that were solved within a few iterations. But by then LEDs that were better and cheaper were hitting the market and the argument became moot.

                Now my biggest problem with modern light bulbs is the absurd market-ups relative to what they cost everywhere else on the planet.

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      Just like their bigoted positions on LGBTQ+ rights. Like, nobody is forcing you to identify as one. It’s literally as respecting someone to be called John instead of Johnathan.

      Then righties go, “bUT I dONt lIkE tHaT nAMe!”

      So much for individual freedumb I guess.

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    My favorite part was how they kept mentioning the sign language interpreters and then never showing them again. Like, give them a picture-in-picture or something. Otherwise, what’s the point?

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      I’m old enough to remember when shows used to have ASL interpreters in a little window. All the time. But I haven’t seen it much since the 80s.

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        We switched to closed captions over the course of the 90s. Irl events still use terps but using then on screen is now a specific choice. Usually the only times you’ll see ASL on screen these days is presidential addresses and shows that make a point to cast signers for Deaf characters

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          I have a question about this, if anybody can help me out. Are Deaf and Hard of Hearing people generally fluent in English (at a similar rate to the general population)? I’ve heard anecdotes about Deaf people who only know ASL, little to no English, but I don’t know how common that actually is. Mainly curious about the US.

          I know ofc it’s more complicated than that (ASL isn’t the only sign language used here, and English isn’t the only spoken language, not all Deaf/HH people use sign language, etc.), but I’m just trying to get an idea of the big picture. Like when it comes to TV, are closed captions generally considered ‘accessible’ by the Deaf community?

          Apologies if that didn’t make much sense, I had trouble wording it.

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            So it depends a lot on age, location, and severity of hearing loss. First Deaf and deaf aren’t the same thing. Capital D Deaf means culturally Deaf regardless of severity of hearing loss. Someone can be hard of hearing and Deaf and someone who hears worse may not be. Hoh and deaf people who aren’t Deaf usually are either late deafened or were mainstreamed (basically given hearing aids and usually not taught sign). Little d deaf implies hearing loss severe enough that it would require yelling to have an unaided verbal conversation (not precise but it’s generally accurate).

            So for starters, if you grew up with the internet you’re probably fluent in written language, probably English. Unless you’re from a time and place where hearing people weren’t literate you’re probably literate as a deaf person. And to my knowledge there are no widely adopted sign language written forms beyond all caps words in language common to area with sign syntax. That’s why when you see Deaf people struggling with verbal languages it’s usually issues of spelling or syntax not vocabulary. But there’s also fingerspelling. There are a lot more words than signs. Common words quickly get a sign, but shit you don’t have to express face to face often to another Deaf person like professional jargon, you just spell it out.

            But think about the 80s-90s in America. People who didn’t learn to read in school were still around. Especially if the system didn’t really care and their parents were illiterate. Even now there are people who can read but not at speaking speed. Captions are fine now, it’s like English to the Dutch. You’ve been using it in entertainment at least partly your whole life. But when it was a language someone half bothered to teach you at ten not so much

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              Thank you for your response!

              Wow, yeah, I hadn’t even considered what difference the internet would have made. Way too often I forget to think about history in its greater context.

              And to my knowledge there are no widely adopted sign language written forms beyond all caps words in language common to area with sign syntax.

              Not as far as I know, either. About a year ago I learned about a ministry group that translated the entire Christian bible into ASL and made an app where you could watch the videos. I don’t remember the name, but it was cool to learn about. (IIRC, that project was what got me caught up on this question in the first place, lol.)

              When you say ‘sign syntax,’ does that mean the same thing as gloss? For example:
              YESTERDAY, HOME IX-me STAY

              I see it used all the time as a tool for English -> ASL students (of which I am one, lol), but it’s never crossed my mind to wonder what ways it is (and what ways it isn’t) used by the Deaf.

              If you don’t mind me asking, are you or someone in your life Deaf? Just curious, since it sounds like you’re more informed than the Average Joe. :)

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                Yeah there’s a thing where Christians like for their texts to be in every language. It’s probably a lot more of that than anything. ASL was developed by nuns IIRC. It’s definitely not like Plains Sign Language which began as a trade language and eventually developed for the deaf. For as long as modern people of European descent have had sign language we’ve had access to Jesus in it.

                I’d give more context but my asl is shit. I don’t really sign beyond insulting the hearing. I’m third generation mainstreamed. (Yeah my great grandparents, grandparents, and parents were all convinced not to teach their children sign language by the experts of the time). And yeah that more or less answers two paragraphs. I’ve been wearing hearing aids since childhood and my mom, grandma, and sister all also have my degenerative hearing loss.

                I grew up with captions on the tv in the 90s except when my father was watching with us (he hates captions, and I’ll acknowledge they did suck 25 years ago, just less than not hearing sucked). And in early adulthood I went on a journey of self discovery and community discovery of embracing my deafness but I still need to find the time and energy to commit to asl learning

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        I imagine widespread adoption of closed captioning has reduced the need for ASL interpreters on TV.

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    I bet none of these dingbats complained when we were playing “God Bless America” everywhere after 9/11. MAGA shouldn’t be the gatekeepers of patriotism.

    • They aren’t. They think they are patriots, but in fact they are just nationalists. Nationalism is a gross perversion of patriotism. Under the guide of loving their country, it really just stands for hating everyone else.

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    Why do you morons keep granting the MAGA premise by calling at the black national anthem? I swear to God what is it with with liberals leftist Democrats whatever accepting right wing terminology? It’s never a good idea.

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      Premiered in 1900, “Lift Every Voice and Sing” was communally sung within Black American communities, while the NAACP began to promote the hymn as a “Negro national anthem” in 1917

      Moron

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        Oh well if someone said it over 100 years ago then clearly it’s still exactly as accurate it is today. I mean there’s no way I could sit here and show you multiple proclamations by groups in 1917 that I wouldn’t think hold true today but we could play that game. Surely in 1917 the age of Woodrow Wilson there were no uncomfortable disturbing proclamations made about America.

        Also can someone please tell me why the NAACP has the ability to declare a national anthem? I must have missed that in the Constitution.

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          Also can someone please tell me why the NAACP has the ability to declare a national anthem? I must have missed that in the Constitution.

          Dude, you can hear a song that moves you tomorrow and call it the njm1314 national anthem if you want to. And if enough people like what you have to say about it, they might start calling it that too. I’d hope none of those people think that means you have the ability to “declare a national anthem” because it would be about the stupidest thing to complain about.

          I mean there’s no way I could sit here and show you multiple proclamations by groups in 1917 that I wouldn’t think hold true today but we could play that game.

          You incorrectly implied the origin of the phrase and were corrected. No one has to call it that. You don’t have to call it that. No one is forcing you to call it that, nor demanding you stand when it is played, nor will be angry if you don’t call it that. Some people, not just maga, still call it that. So you can rage at 100 years of some people voluntarily calling it that, or you can just exercise your freedom to not call it that and move on.

          Any chance you are as angry about the maga tantrum as you are about this song?

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          Who decides what is the “correct terminology”?

          It’s a phrase coined by the NAACP, not MAGAts.

          Just put your shovel away.

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    Former Arizona Senate candidate Kari Lake responded to a picture showing her sitting down during a performance of the hymn at last year’s Super Bowl. Lake said on X, formerly Twitter, on Sunday: “I’m STILL not standing for this divisive garbage. One nation. One anthem.”

    If she really thought that she’d stand the fuck up.

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    Was this sung instead of the national anthem or was it sung in addition to the anthem? The article is garbage.

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      They sung it before the anthem. It might have been after Post Malone did America the Beautiful. So it’s not even like Lift Every Voice was the only additional patriotic song they did.

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        So a bunch of people sang songs before the anthem and one of them happened to be a song that black people like. Sounds about right.

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        It’s literally just a way for the NFL to fill air time before the game starts and get people tuned in longer for commercials.

        It’s nice for Lift Every Voice to have been sung, but if anyone thinks the NFL gives a shit more than selling ad time and tickets, they’re lost in the sauce.

        It’s not worth getting upset over one way or the other.