Plot twist, both options are only paid by in their respective coins. And payment is automatic: it falls on your head from a small portal.
Breathing is at least 150k a year, that’s more than enough, even after taxes and has me covered when I’m old and can’t go for a walk anymore.
I don’t need more, I’d rather enjoy my quiet time and taking an walk and standing still for a while at a nice vista, enjoying the view. I don’t need the constant chase for money and even more money in my life and the stress of having to keep moving to get even more. When I walk at the beach with my better half, I’d rather think of how nice this is rather than how much this earns me.
Consider this: you can become a multimillionaire within a year of the step option, and have even less stress as you become able to live off investments for the rest of your life. You can even run for charity to have a more fulfilling life if you so choose, it stops being a constant chase for money.
Winning Capitalism is all about investing enough to take care of your needs indefinitely. With the step option, you win, and retain the ability to gain more money if you wish. With breath, you deprive yourself of that option.
I don’t care about “winning capitalism”, I care about living a comfortable life and being able to pursue my hobbies. $150k a year is more than enough, and I don’t have to worry about investment bullshit, it’s just guaranteed constant income. As long as I’m alive, I’ll be breathing, that’s 100% guaranteed. Winning the stock market is not guaranteed, and being able to use my legs for the rest of my life is also not guaranteed.
Winning the stock market is guaranteed unless society collapses just by investing in a broad market fund. You don’t worry, you just make money. 150k is not enough in many cities to have a family, unfortunately, and you also can’t run for charity.
You don’t need to use your legs after the first bit. You get in shape, and then you have well over 150k, not losing to inflation with no raises ever again. You’re done.
Someone did the math. It’s $315,000 not $150.000. So plenty to live on and still have some left for investment.
As for winning capitalism: capitalism is a travesty that’s killing both people and the planet. I would rather people stop talking about winning such a system - there are truly no victors. To be the victor in capitalism is to be a cell of a tumor that slowly kills its host; you only live until you finish killing the host or the host fights back. We should kill and consume those responsible for capitalism like macrophages consume cancer.
Oh there are Victors, the only real chance at liberation a Proletarian can have is to either end Capitalism itself, or join the bourgeoisie. At least if you have a ton of money, you can donate to strike funds.
$150k per year for the rest of my life would be way more than enough for me and the lifestyle I want to live. I currently make less than that, but still have enough to invest and donate to charity, so this would be just a straight, guaranteed upgrade with zero changes to my current life.
I understand that I could make more with the steps option, but I’d be thinking about it. Any time I was off my feet, I’d be thinking to myself, “I’m missing out on money right now”, and I don’t want to have that nag for the rest of my life. Give me the no-work, no-change, fully automatic upgrade over the steps option every day of the week.
it’s funny how many armchair money managers we have here who want to give up huge passive income in order to… have more money to invest and eventually get passive income.
how much would an annuity that pays $150k/yr cost for somebody in their 20s or 30s? I can’t imagine it being less than $10 million. probably more like $50 million. so the logic is give up $10-$50 million in value, for the opportunity to maybe make it up in the long run, while hoping you never get injured or debilitated…
3.75 million dollars in a high yield savings account right now pays 150k per year, at a rate of 4% annually. Investing in the broad market pays 6%ish per year after adjusting to inflation.
You can make multiple millions off of intentionally jogging per year, which pretty much debunks your point. Yes, breathing is more passive, but will lose to inflation compared to what you can gain comparatively immediately with steps.
Also keeps you in shape!
Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_year 525,600 minutes per year
Per https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537306/ 12 breaths per minute for an adult (which you should be for the mind cesspool that is the internet)
525,600 minutes by 12 by $0.05 is $315,360.00 per year.
Breathing is at least 150k a year
I decry you as
needs improvementat maths.mf just OFSTED inspected my dude
I am old enough (and was a theatre geek as a kid) to know the number of minutes in a year without needing Wiki…
…Thanks, Rent.
How do you measure, measure a year?
Cups of coffee?
is at least
yeah uh, let me just double check these figures… yes, that’s absolutely correct! 300k is more than 150k, and therefore the person who needs remedial mathematics is not GP.
the IRS is a feeble, gutted institution. it’s task is to collect money from the rich and use it for the public good, but it has become so underfunded and hogtied by the fat cats in power that it can barely do this job.
so, no, the IRS ain’t fuckin watching any of us, and probably won’t have time to ask for your money unless there’s enough of it missing.
and we should start respecting the institution and bring some power back to it so they can at least go for the rich guys not paying.
Its* task is
They just got several billion from the inflation reduction act to actually fix themselves which is why they can finally do our taxes. They are also projected to be able to collect an additional 500 billion from tax evaders into the next decade.
My breaths per minute is like 13 or less. But I get like 12000+ steps in a day. For a really long run I can get in like 50000 steps.
So I know which way the math swings for me
Dude, based on an average stride length of 5ft, 50000 steps works out to over 47 miles.
That’s some long ass running.
This was 19 miles up an down a mountain, so much much shorter stride lengths
You couldn’t pay me to breath. Not. even. once.
Oxygen is corrosive. If it can turn solid iron into rust, just think what it would do to your body!
The average person takes ~12 breaths per minute, so the left works out to ~$ 850 if you do absolutely nothing.
Generally, taking more steps will include taking more breaths, as you increase physical exertion, your breaths per minute goes up. It won’t be nearly as much of an increase to make up the difference for the increased value of steps.
Basically, I see this as two distinct paths. Low risk low reward, and higher risk higher reward. On the low risk side is breaths. Even if you become paraplegic, you will continue to earn. It will be less than the alternative in optimal conditions, but it will be earnings for every moment of your life for the rest of your life. On the high risk side, I see that you can very easily outpace the earnings of the alternative by simply being more active. The risk is that you need to keep active to earn. Any lazy days on the couch are going to cost you. Any days ill, bedridden or injured, will cost you.
This splits most into a more communal vs capitalistic view: where more long term thinkers would likely go with breathing, and more short term and capitalistic thinkers will go with steps.
If steps people take their income from those steps and invest wisely, they can secure more long term income, which is a good move, since it not only secures your position, but you can also pass on those benefits to future generations. People picking breath are going to be earning less overall, but continually and depending on conditions, could end up better for it in the long run, especially if they are faced with a disability that prevents them from walking.
Personally, I’d go with breaths. I want stability more than high earnings. My current lifestyle doesn’t lend itself very well to taking many steps per day, so in my current position, I’d probably make more that way. Also the idea that I can make money while I’m sleeping is appealing to me.
A consistent $600-1000 daily would result in more than $200,000/yr on the low end, which is more than double my current salary… In fact nearly triple.
So you’re telling me I can triple my yearly earnings by doing absolutely nothing differently? Sign me up.
Consider that I could choose steps, and then spend a week of 8 hr days on a treadmill and earn enough to buy a house. It would take a couple years of breathing to earn that much.
I can probably make 20 years worth of breathing money in 1 year of walking. Then I can put that money to work for me immediately. That money earns while I sleep too.
Sure, there’s a higher risk, but as someone who’s already fit and active, I would relish the opportunity to continue hiking and pour myself into it to stack a big bank account, then just get on with life building the sort of business I want to build, immediately, with a few million dollars upfront.
And yes, while one could hyperventilate to cheat the breath count, I could also walk 50km in shuffling short steps to earn 40k in a day if I needed it.
I choose steps.
I probably take 80,000 steps every week just with my job and hiking. Might as well make bank while I do it.
more short term and capitalistic thinkers will go with steps
I’m sorry, so Capitalists are always thinking short-term?
What about bonds you break, or claims you stake?
I’ll be watching you
I’ll be watchiiiing youuu.
My time has come. All that time spent on the Power Pad as a kid will finally pay off.
This is the absolute easiest question. If you ever get this, the answer is steps. Get your 10k steps a day, or even 20k if you’re feeling frisky. Get in shape, buy some nice walking or running shoes, and invest the massive difference between walking and what breathing would get you.
Once you reach a good level invested, you’re functionally able to retire and never even take another step. Your investments will cover everything.
Anyone who says breath doesn’t realize the sheer difference steps can make.
But if you get an unlucky leg injury, you are out of income at least temporarily. So breathing for mea, even if it’s less money
But what if I choose breath n do cardio everyday? Wouldn’t my number of breaths increase a lot during that time while also keeping me healthy?
Yes, but you wouldn’t make nearly as much money. You have to breathe 5 times per step to break even.
*hyperventilates*
As your cardiovascular system improves, you typically take fewer, larger breaths at rest, so improving your ability to breath reduces the number of steps you’ll typically take. On the other hand, most people become able to walk more steps after walking consistently.
Unless you’re handicapped, bedridden, very old, or otherwise prevented by health related circumstances from doing so, you can make more with steps.
breath! I breathe while I am asleep, case closed.
Average 18 breaths a minute 60 minutes an hour 24 hours in a day
$1296
You make more if you walk more than 5184 steps a day. Which you probably do
Nope but you can’t do wheelies so I’ll call it even.
Bold of you to assume I walk that much
Now the melody from The Police is haunting me again.
I looked at my rates. At 17 breaths a minute, I would make $1,224 per day. At around 7725 steps per day, I would make $1,931 per day. I have to go back years to find a month that averaged a step income below my breath income. Hands down (or feet down), I’d choose making money through steps. I would be making over $700k a year. The added benefit is that I can also increase my step count per day and it would make me healthier. Increasing my breath rate generally wouldn’t.
I’m in the same situation, but you also have to consider that your situation may change. I for one after getting money like this would probably quit my job and just stay at home and in general walk less.
I had a small leg injury before Xmas, so I averaged 1-2k steps per day for a few weeks. Given this choice I would not want to risk losing my income due to an accident, so I would choose money for breathing, meaning I get payed as long as I’m alive. Also, not like you cannot make a good living with ~1k per day.
That was a thought that went through my head. In reality, as long as I was able to walk for a few years, I could invest that money and make passive income with the 4% rule. Assuming I could walk just a few years longer, I could retire very early. But yes, theoretically I’ll be breathing longer than I’m walking. And breathing income is safer in that way.
Same here. Also, if you exert yourself in any way, your breathing quickens. It’s bonus pay for exercise. A win-win either way.
The more you walk or run, the more breaths you make. What’s your pulse/breath while walking? What about “any other form of activity” that could introduce sweat? Skimming, cycling, skiing, fucking… hell even hopping wood and lifting weights make you breathe faster if you strain yourself.
I’ll be take breaths
walking doesn’t increase your breath count, maybe by 1 or 2 per minute, so it’s rather insignifacnt, if it does more then you really, really need to walk more and get into better shape.
You’re not taking 5+ breaths per step even when running, and as your cardiovascular health increases you take fewer breaths.
That’s the kicker. You work out to breathe harder and faster, but as you work out, your heart gets more efficient, meaning at least you exert yourself slower, requiring more work to get the same heavy breathing.
Steps then hike the Appalachian Trail
Billionaires make 10000x that, and the IRS can’t afford to check them.
I don’t really care what makes more money, id just take the walking one to incentivise me to walk more. id rather be healthy than slightly richer
You only need 4-5k steps a day for it to be more money, which is pretty doable for most people. Of course, that would make getting your 10k steps in per day worth about $300k excess, which is a pretty compelling incentive
How are we even defining steps? If I shuffle around my living room like a penguin for a minute, do I earn $20?
As you accumulate more money the personal value decreases and the incentive is gone. Which is the root of money addition. Once you make decent money you need more money to get your dopamine hit.
With the passive breathing income you can just automatically give to charity when you get to a certain amount. Stop caring and thinking about money and do whatever you feel like. Do the sport you like because you like doing it. Its the best kind of incentive.
You can donate far more with steps, though. That can be your new motivation.
Like i said doing something you like is the best motivation you’ll ever need. The biggest benefit id receive from a magic deal like this is that I could stop having to consider money even exists and that to me is heaven.
And when i get old i may no longer be able to walk but as long as i live i will breath.
You can do that with steps, though. You get in shape for a year and you invest that money, then boom. Free money for the rest of your life, without worry, plus the ability to make a ton of money quickly if you wanted. You can’t do that with breaths.
I dont think you get my point. I want to live like money doesnt exist the last thing il spend thinking about on is investing.
Breathing is passive income and i am no big spender, its more then il ever need or Earn in real life. Plenty if for some unthinkable reason i want to play adventure capitalist irl.
I’ll Just build a system that any money over half a million (takes less then 2 years with just breathing) gets forwarded to my favorite charities and and then il get fit doing whatever sport i fancy.
Why would i want more money quickly lol? Looks Like your already addicted. Once you make enough money people get obsessed with “making” more. Either the money did not exist and your causing inflation or it did already exist and your just a middle man. Whats the point?
You don’t have to think about investing. You can just buy a broad market ETF and you’re done, you take the distributions and you have stable income for the rest of your life even if you don’t take another step.
Breathing is exclusively passive, meaning if there’s a big emergency, you can’t make more money. You have to be far more careful about budgeting than you would if you had the big investment from steps.
Following, you can run for charity if you want. Donate to good causes and gain fulfillment. The breathing option requires you to budget for this, while the step option doesn’t.
