Donald Trump on Sunday proposed a new policy that many critics said is equivalent to legalizing “The Purge.”
Trump spoke at a rally in Pennsylvania, where he admitted that his attendees were “falling asleep” at one of his earlier rallies. Vice President Kamala Harris’ campaign noted that, as Trump was still speaking at the swing-state event over the weekend, rallygoers placed directly behind the former president started to funnel out of the building.
One comment Trump made drew condemnation on social media, as well as numerous comparisons to The Purge, a film series based on a dystopian world in which the government makes all crimes legal for a 12-hour period.
Every time I think this motherfucker can’t surprise me by going any lower…
He will say absolutely anything to get in power and avoid the catastrophe that awaits should he fail.
With all the crimes he’s committed that are well documented and easily proven and thus far only some convicted but not sentenced, he’s walking a tightrope. If he falters the consequences are dire.
At best his debts catch up to him and his family legacy is in tatters.
At worst he is in prison for the rest of his life from a treason charge.
If he wins no judge will sentence him until he’s out of office, which he may never be with all the GOP groundwork being laid to create a puppet dictatorship controlled by conservative oligarchs.
I half expect him to go running into Putin’s arms at some point.
I expected that on Jan 7, and for a long time afterward.
I don’t anymore, because I realized something: he’s literally too narcissistic to be able to comprehend the concepts of failure and consequences. He will never run because in order to make the decision to do so, he would have to admit to himself that he lost.
I would expect him to ask Putin for help in controlling ‘the mob’ in exchange for Alaska and the rest of the North Pole, so Putin can rule the world.
I really don’t see the problem. This country was founded on genocide. For everyone horrified by this and says we’re a different country, it’s not like we gave back the land we murdered 40 million people for so we’re not really sorry for what we did. The purge worked here before, it’s working in Gaza now, it’s proven.
there it is people.
the most retarded take on this event that you’ll ever read. even more retarded than the event itself.
idiot.
Everything I said is true though. This country wouldn’t be as wealthy and strong if we didn’t genocide all the natives and steal nearly a continent of land. What is that “retarded” as you say?
at any given moment on any given day, with a little bit of covert communications, any group of people could rise up against another in a Rwandan style genocide. we are all connected via our phones. all you have to do is have a willing population and the right person to give ‘the signal’.
which group are you going to be?
Purge works both ways, Donnie.
Sadly he’d have his little safe room to quiver in until the dust settles. Like the rich people in the movies that would drop security shutters and party through the holiday.
Wouldn’t even be in a safe room, he just wouldn’t be in the country.
Unfortunately the press and the peanut gallery have it very wrong on this one.
He’s not calling for the purge.
He’s calling for krystalnacht.
Unfortunately the press and the peanut gallery have it very wrong on this one.
Deliberately. Comparing it to the Purge rather than the Kristallnacht gives the majority of people who only read the headline the wrong idea about what he actually meant, which derails the discussion towards “crazy old man says another crazy thing” rather than “crazy old fascist says another fascist thing”.
That was a purge though. Also the night of the long knives.
Yeah the message is getting across.
When people are using the the term “The Purge” they mean like in the movie series. Very different concept.
Which isn’t what he said. He said let the police loose for one “very rough” hour. Not everyone gets to do something for a day. He did not describe the movie like the media is suggesting. That would involve people shooting back at him. Which he’s not a fan of. No he described something altogether darker where he and the police get to kill people with no accountability.
You literally just explained my own point back to me.
I see what happened. I didn’t see the entire thread and assumptions got made. Sorry about that.
All good 👍
You two are great, it’s nice to see people not get all chest thumpy online.
Getting way too real but those movies are actually well worth watching. No, not the first one where Ethan Hawke and Lena Heady are rich white upper middle class people who are betrayed by their neighbors because they didn’t own enough guns. Like… every other Purge movie
The reality is what we already see. The Holy Second Amendment is supposed to let people defend thmselves but it results in rich (predominantly white) people owning forty ARs and heavy body armor whereas lower class ethnic folk MIGHT have a pistol for self defense. And when shit hits the fan? Fat white kids cross state lines to mow down some protesters with their assault rifles.
And every movie (except the god awful first one) addresses this. Bubba Gump’s convenience store lost their purge insurance so he is forced to try and defend his livelihood. Hispanic women are openly told they will be raped when the clock hits 6 (?). Impoverished black neighborhoods have klan members bussed in to murder them all (its cool though because Y’lan Noel goes John Wick on the nazis). Totally Not Hilary Clinton gets the biggest target ever painted on her head on purge night (its cool though. Frank Grillo is mostly only a dumbfuck that Chris Evans will never talk to again but damned if he isn’t an awesome white guy with a pistol). And the rest of the rich white fucks just hang out in panic rooms with the poors they bought the rights to torture and murder.
Because that is the reality. Privilege is everything. If you have enough money you can avoid the consequences of anything. Whether it is the decades of horror because people were too busy looking at Marisa Tomei’s ta-tas to realize she should not be allowed to write legislature, the fucking idiocy of wanting a heavily armed populace, or just driving drunk and running over a few kids in a car.
It’s an outrageously idiotic idea if you put more than 3 seconds of thought into it. It’s cool they were able to make some kind of allegory for the lowest common denominator to understand classism or some shit, but I don’t know how anyone could suspend disbelief given such a ridiculous premise
I mean, I dont disagree that the concept is insanely idiotic but all they’ve done in the purge is take the concept of a pogrom and applied it to modern day america. The premise isn’t that rediculous. It has happened, in real life. Yeah they’ve leaned into it, and dialed up the crazy fevor a bit, but its not so removed from real life accounts of pogroms.
To stop crime, you need one really violent day.
Yeah someone tried that at one of his rallies, but he missed.
The Purge, Period checks, no overtime, mass deportations. The future looks bright. Thank you for bringing so much joy to the world GOP.
Don’t forget to vote third party or not at all because the Democrats aren’t perfect or because electoral college or voting day is a Tuesday…. s/
Dont forget to not hold democrats accountable for anything so they can move 6 more steps right and normalize all the Republican corporate shit you claimed to be against 10 years ago.
This comment made around 8AM Saint Petersburg time. Morning comrade!
Let me guess: you’ve been calling your representatives, demanding voting reform and an end to “first-past-the-post” and holding your votes hostage at all times, not just in an election year… Right!??
I know you think you have some big gatcha here, but I actually do those things. Go on and keep rewarding democrats for sprinting further right and dumping whatever scraps they promise on Day One.
Which candidate that has a chance of winning the election in November do you think Americans should vote for?
I mean, I’m gonna vote for Kamala, but Dems ain’t movin’ left, let’s be honest.
Wanna bet their answer is “no”?
Not them but I think the answer is very obviously “not Trump”.
Everyone should vote for “Not Trump” and it seems that more people agree than not when even his own party wanted a guy with former brain parasites than him.There is really some lamenting though that the bar is set so low and the Democrats seem to be happy to not even try to jump over it but take the win on not being Trump.
It could be an amazing strategy to run on a platform of helping and pushing change instead of telling tired people they will keep things the same.
Its obvious it needs to be “Not Trump”. But I wouldn’t expect people to be happy about voting for the equivalent of the 2000 Republican Party in spirit here in 2024 when people not wanting that anymore is how the Republicans got Trump in the first place. People are gonna get burnt out and disenfranchised on no change.
It doesn’t mean they are right to burn it all down but people commit suicide for shitty reasons too.The only “not Trump” that has a chance of winning is Harris.
Voting for any other “not Trump” actually helps Trump. You might as well just not vote.
Well only true if they weren’t a Trump supporter voting 3rd party.
People walking out of his rallies and falling asleep at them does not help Trump.
I get that Harris is the only person with the current backing up there to win properly against him this election but if you literally take a look at your math there and say someone that votes third party would be better by not voting at all you are just trying to silence people that disagree with you rather than let them have any voice.
Voting for third party when they wouldn’t have voted at all is not the same as helping Trump and you need to stop being so scared of Trump you keep bullying those that would with that false equivalent.
I am not trying to silence anyone. People are free to do what they want. I stand by my position that voting for anyone but Trump or Harris achieves nothing.
Voting third party in modern history has never achieved anything and there is no one anywhere close to the popularity of Ross Perot, who came closest.
“Vote for my candidate or your worse than Republicans”
Much democracy, so freedom. If y’all spent half the time working against Republicans that you do attacking anybody left of Biden maybe we could have meaningful change.
Why are you putting words in my mouth? That’s highly dishonest of you, especially when I said nothing even remotely like what you’re putting in quotation marks.
Normally when I see a headline like this it is taking Trump out of context or giving a very uncharitable take on what he said. Every once in a while, though, what he said is truly as ad as the headline makes it sound. This is one of those times.
He is literally calling for either The Purge or Kristallnacht! This man is calling for mass murder as a way to solve crime.
I remember when I first heard the “we will build the wall and Mexico will pay for it”. I thought, “oh they must be taking him out of context that makes no sense”. Nope
He is pretty consistently advancing absolutely batshit insane things. I don’t think he actually gets taken out of context that often, not because the media is fair, but because the shit he says is so goddamn insane there’s no need.
Is there something in recent memory where you think there was a headline that misconstrued what he said?
Actually, an example of this just popped up. This article states that Trump admitted to stiffing his employees by not paying overtime. If you listen to the video at the bottom, though, he said that he hates paying overtime and would “get different people in”.
He didn’t require people to work, then fail to pay them overtime. He would send the workers home and bring in a new shift.
I wouldn’t call that stiffing his employees. I wouldn’t even call that controversial. This article twists Trump’s words to make up a story about him rather than focus on the very real threat that he poses. It dilutes the negative press against him and makes it look like the left are liars, just out to get Trump.
This kind of journalism needs to die. Trump is an awful human being and says plenty of awful stuff. We don’t need to bend the truth or like abiut him. We just need to report the actual shitty stiff he says.
Yea that’s fair. I agree, it’s shitty to work someone until they are about to get overtime and then swap them out to avoid paying overtime.
I would agree that to “stiff” someone of something is to deprive them of something they’ve earned, like not paying out overtime once someone has worked it.
I wonder why they bother, it’s not like the thing he said isn’t already shitty.
Thanks for the example, have a cool day
I don’t have anything at my fingertips. I thought I had some comments on articles that bothered me in that way, but maybe I never finished those comments. I had problems with lemmy not letting me post with my von turned on…
I’ve had several times recently where I felt that an article was making a mountain of a mole hill to make Trump look worse. I wrote, but apparently didn’t post, comments saying, effectively, "Trump makes himself look bad enough without exaggerating or lying. Tell the truth about what he says and he looks like a fascist maniac. Exaggerate and you make people wonder if you’re always stretching the truth.
This is all you really need to know about any of this
University of Texas law professor Lee Kovarsky said, “People confuse telling hard truths with just being a total f------ idiot.”
Not enough people are shamed into keeping quiet these days, they think they’re being politically incorrect or edgy or owning woke libs. They’re really just letting everyone who knows how things work that they don’t know
The regular process would be:
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have idea for easy solution to known problem
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think it through
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realise that there more factors at play that would lead to other problems
Trump reaches stage 1 on a good day.
He has the concept of an idea.
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Also total f------ Nazi. That bit’s important too.
Is this one of the stupid things he says which are hyperbole, or one of the stupid things he says that he kinda means?
Yeah this is one of those hope-for-the-best-but-plan-for-the-worst kind of situations. Hopefully he’s joking, as his supporters will undoubtedly claim; but if a potential president tells me he wants to damage our country in any way, I’m just going to take that shit at face value.
Let’s not play with fire inside our thatch hut of a country.
Oh he means it. He may claim it was a joke like he often does when he’s confronted with this shit, but he absolutely meant it.
Depends who’s asking.
The uncertainty you’re expressing is why the 2nd amendment exists. Trump is exactly the type of person the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote it.
No he wasn’t. I despise Trump, but the second amendment was about keeping well regulated militias to protect the colonies from attacks by natives and other potential outside enemies. These militias were disbanded when we created a standing army.
It had nothing to do with fighting back against your own government. Sorry.
I think you forget that “fighting back against your own government” was exactly what the people who wrote the Constitution had literally just finished doing.
The Purge has been central to Q Anon.
It was supposed to happen 4 years ago but trump lost.
Had he won, the trucker convoy would have been a part of it.
(I was witness to some chatter and had this directly communicated to me.)
Also, see: the turner diaries a book. A horrible violent racist book. There’s a theme throughout.
“The day of the gun and rope”
One of the organisers of the convoy in Canada loved using the phrase, “day of the rope” in reference to hanging our prime minister. (Also see “diagolon”)
The threepers/ 3 percenters ara group that believe it would take 3% of the population to bring about an ethno state.
They operate in Canada and the us and were VERY visible in Ottawa.
The Turner Diaries are what inspired Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols to blow up the federal building in Oklahoma City.
It’s super dangerous. But at this point, the genie is way out of the bottle.
I read the Turner Diaries. There is not the slightest shred of preaching or ideology in the book. The book automatically assumes you are 100% on board with white supremacist ideology and also are willing to take action.
The book, fundamentally, is a call to action.
BTW the reason why the book doesn’t bother explaining it’s ideology or tell the reader why they should believe it is because the book was originally published in serial form in a far-right magazine in the 70s. The only people who read that magazine were already full blown Nazis, and thus did not need convincing.
That isn’t where the 3% number comes from. Also they were very up-their-own-ass, but were ultimately benign. Then they got turned into another terrorist mlitia by maga. So, while you are right in calling them out as the enemy of the people now, that still isn’t what 3% stands for.
I don’t in understand how these people really think they are the only ones capable of violence.
What do they think “the opposing side” will do… lie flat and wait for a bullet to the head?
They think anyone who owns a gun necessarily agrees with them
They fully expect to roll into a city in a fleet of lifted F250’s and drive a herd of fleeing vegans before them without having to lift a finger. The fact that liberals can and will defend their homes isn’t an idea that’s crossed their mind. The things that “country folks” believe about “city folks” would boggle the mind.
To defend a place, an invisible high power UV-Laser does more damage to a crowd than a M16 if you know what I mean… city folk are creative. You don’t have to worry about getting shot when the opposing force is practically blinded for life.
If this conflict happens, it will shape the life’s of many in ways they can’t imagine. Like really REALLY bad maming of thousands.
They expect that. They also believe that any violence committed by their opposition is 100% unprovoked and due to their monstrous irrational nature.
And if they aren’t white people they are automatically terrorists.
from what i’ve seen in most liberal circles, we are not prepared to defend our homes and loved ones from a roving band of rednecks. they’re not all old fat gravy seals. many of them are young, have lots of experience with firearms, and know how to coordinate.
You hang out in the wrong liberal circles, then. We may be pacifists but we are not helpless. I won’t throw the first punch to someone else but if they bring it to me you can be damn sure that I’m going to throw the last one, or die trying.
many of them are young, have lots of experience with firearms, and know how to coordinate.
So emulate them. A threat is on the horizon. Will you see it coming and lay down for it? Or will you prepare yourself? Your people may need you.
Time to gear up and match their abilities. Leveling the playing field with weapons banned for actual warfare would not be off limits for me in that situation. They attack, so theoretically preparation is key.
Coordinate the attack when automated laser turrents permanently blind their squad… (and no, goggles won’t help) because that would be easily in my ballpark of skill to build. (Eye Tracking is a basic function of Open CV, Galvos and UV Lasers are easily obtainable… I don’t need guns or ammo… theoretically speaking of course)
i like your style. i used to take comfort in knowing that the left was far more tech savvy, which i felt was going to be key, but these days i’m not so sure.
I wouldn’t say I’m left. Just… not a Nazi? And I don’t like Billionaires / Power Accumulations.
Much more interesting would be what side the military would pick. They decide. Everything else is just toys wielded by children. And as of now, they are not so fond of Trump as it seems.
this is correct, which is also an angle that would need to be played. the right has to look like the aggressor, or at least has to be tricked into making a move that the military would have to take action over.
Everyone here thinking Trump is saying the quiet part out loud… but as the senile old man he is, I think he just saw the movie and is confusing whatever his handlers told him to say with that he fell as sleep watching on TV
“Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.”
Except when someone is a proven fascist with a long history of proposing the violent oppression of women, non-whites and minorities, and affiliated with a large political party that shares this aim. Then it’s probably malice.
Or… both? Yeah, it’s probably both.
Unless you have proof of malice.
Him, the evening before: “Oh yes, you’re a bigly big mac aren’t you, let’s just curl up on the couch and watch my stories…”
This is magas new Jesus. They worship this felon regardless of what he does or says.
Naw this is a case of the media tiptoing around him and preferring easily digested headlines.
He’s clearly not describing The Purge in the actual quote. He doesn’t want to make crime legal.
He’s describing Kristallnacht. He wants the cops to be able to punish anyone they want with as much violence as they want. He wants a massacre of anyone they declare a criminal, aka minorities and dissidents.
It’s so much fucking scarier than the bullshit headlines and it’s so fucking frustrating.
This is my take. I’ve never watched the purge.
It sounds to me like he’s just saying the police need to be able to dispense “justice” with impunity, and in his mind that can be tempered be saying you’d only need to do it once.
It’s just the latest in a long line of really concerning attitudes that the right seems happy to support.
Honestly i feel like this current lurch to the right, as we try to manage climate change, AI, and wealth concentration, is the great filter. We have some big problems and the right is just so determined to double down with all our current shitty plans.
It’s crazy we are going to be alive to see the great filter take place
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You’ve misconstrued the comment you’re replying to because you either misunderstood or didn’t read my comment above it.
I’m not saying Trump’s latest brain fart is “the great filter”.
I’m saying the great filter is populations all over the world having a propensity to vote for people like Trump, who actively plan to make all the problem’s we’re facing much worse to further their own ends.
I’ve never been an alarmist, but I will say that as a species we don’t seem to be on a trajectory towards prosperity, and global leaders don’t seem to have a plan to correct that trajectory.
He’s more and more openly using fascist rhetoric right out of Hitler’s playbook too. That the only book we know he owns is one with Hitler’s speeches is just conincidence I’m sure. (Not that he can read, but maybe the Saw puppet reads it to him now before going down on his mushroom.)
I’m sure he’s talking about giving police carte blanche to be as violent as they want for an hour. Which is obviously batshit. But it honestly makes me wonder…is he trying to lose this election?
I’m not all that surprised. Is anyone else surprised at this? Like, The Purge is the Republican wet dream.
The Purge is a metaphor for eugenics based on wealth. It’s a libertarian’s fantasy of what a genocide would be. Ofc they love it.
It’s kind of ironic that libertarians are too stupid realize that you have to be stupid to be a libertarian and that the world they profess to desire would leave them victims of their stupid libertarianism.
Outsider here, why is that?
It’s a subset of the party, but there are vocal members that are sure they can save the world guns blazing, and live in a fantasy that all the bad people are just bad people and if allowed, will kill each other off. Many of them drive trucks with really big flags on them, which is handy, because it shows who you have to watch for cutting people off violently in traffic, or ignoring crosswalks.
Same reason as the Nazis. For any more details, you have to ask them.
It’s not. But it certainly is a wet dream for extremists on either side.
the police are 0.6% of the population.
including their families they could be wiped out very easily.
i think that trump wants to use the police to incite a class war to avoid losing the election.
i have no idea who would side with whom in the US.
Unrelated to the content, how does a self respecting journalist start an article’s title with “Omg”?
Like I feel dirty even giving them a click when I have no obligation to society, it’s just depressing to see them presenting as a credible news source
It’s a quote, dumbass
Oh my god, is that what those funky-wunky little lines around Omg meant?
Before I just thought it was just a sensationalist garbage headline, I had no idea someone ACTUALLY said “Omg” in relation to the article, mind blown, thanks
Quote the quote!!!
Unrelated to the content, how does a self respecting journalist
The fact you lack respect for other living beings does not indicate that they necessarily lack respect for themselves.
how does a self respecting journalist start an article’s title with “Omg”?
Probably the same way we don’t start them with “VERILY!” or “FORSOOTH!”. Language evolves and makes old people mad. Tale as old as time.
Omg word using person uses word that you understood to communicate idea.
Get over yourself, mate
