• circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Twitter is not a utility. We really need to stop treating techbro services like utilities. If we feel they actually are utilities, the government can step in and make that claim and the appropriate changes.

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    Fuck Twitter for doing this shit. Musk should just jump in a hole with all his money as we bury him with it, Sunset Riders style.

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      It’s not about the campaigns not using Mastodon, it is about the voters. They are on Twitter still so that is where the campaign wants to meet them.

      Mastodon needs to be more widely known for that to be a realistic option.

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        …but these people just use it as a way of talking to the media. As long as people of power and influence shift, so will the press, and then so will everyone else.

        Home many times do you hear “Trump, on his platform truth.social, said…”? They’ve gone there because he’s gone there.

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            Yeah but because Wikipedia articles, to an extent, ephemeral it is good practise to use the sources at the bottom of the article as your source, rather than the Wikipedia article itself. It makes finding the origin of the information easier.

            If it is something more permanent like a paper or a published article, then that doesn’t suffer from the same issues

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          We’re not doing a research paper. We’re commenting on a internet post. Calm down.

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          You can argue the veracity of looking the user count of the platforms on wikipedia, but it is a source.

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          Musk started removing links and even references to Mastodon from Twitter.

          If a high profile politician (particularly one Elon disagrees with) promoted Mastodon, they’d have an account ban lickety split.

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        Makes me curious if you get more attention on mastodon though. Like if I pitched something on Lemmy there’s a good chance I get the same number of eye balls compared to Reddit, not counting ads. (Although if Kamala posted about Linux and/or Star Trek that’s front page, no ad money needed! Lol)

      • RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world
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        It pisses me off how twitter went to fuck. People cried that we need something not owned by some rich cunt. We told everyone to join mastodon so that wouldn’t happen again. What did people do? Wait for another rich cunt (mark suckerberg) to start a clone and the original creator of twitter to make another one and join that…

        People are dumb as shit… I’m sick of it.

        • ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє@lemmy.sdf.org
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          Yeah, I don’t get it.

          Kind of unrelated, but a parallel I experienced recently.

          Yesterday I was annoyed by SplitWise. We had a small trip over the weekend and we’re adding expenses to it, and it turns out that there’s now a limit to how many entries you can put in per day. Even with ads. So we decided to find another platform, and a friend suggested another closed product which is probably gonna get as shitty as SplitWise soon. Anyway, I was able to convince them to use Spliit instead. If the hosted service goes to shit, at least I can self host it and keep all the data.


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      I’m childish and downvote anyone who refers to twitter as “x”. It’s like you’re on your knees licking Elons bum, right after he told you to call it x, you did what you were told lol.

      Also I never got on the twitter bandwagon as it just didn’t appeal to me. My social media addiction was reddit.

      Twitter sucks. X is a letter. Or a variable in algebra.

      • مهما طال الليل@lemm.ee
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        Oh dear. If I were I wouldn’t be advocating for the government to effectively seize Twitter. I hated the nepo apartheid baby before it was cool.

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          Oh I’ll give you that, I’d love the gov to seize it and make it a public utility. First order of business is put the name back to twitter because duh. And bring back the little blue bird cuz it reminds me of birdie sanders.

          Ain’t gonna happen though lol.

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    What are these fucking people doing on Twitter anyway? Why they hanging out with the Nazis? You’re still on Twitter this point I have some healthy suspicions about your character.

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      Not all parts of twitter is chick full of Nazis. The parts I follow probably won’t ever move over to Mastodon, so I’m stuck with Twitter. The good thing is that part barely has any Nazis.

      Good job on brushing everyone on Twitter with the same broad stroke, though. Really shows how progressive you can be.

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        It’s a website that purposely and specifically endorses Nazis. Yes you are tainted by association. Stop using that or I’ll assume you’re okay with them. That’s what I think of anyone who hangs out with Nazis. Why you doing that? Why you hanging out with Nazis? What do you like about Nazis? If you find these questions uncomfortable you should stop hanging out with Nazis.

        By the way do you know my favorite part of my progressivism is, dead Nazis. Nothing makes me happier than the idea of a Nazi rotting in a field somewhere.

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          It’s a website that purposely and specifically endorses Nazis. Yes you are tainted by association.

          And this is a site run by developers that purposely and specifically endorses Tankies, yet it’s still stupid to call everyone on this site a Tankie.

          That’s what I think of anyone who hangs out with Nazis. Why you doing that? Why you hanging out with Nazis?

          Because we don’t, we kick them out of the circle, that’s why there’s few of them amongst those I follow. The fact that you can’t comprehend such a simple concept is the problem.

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            And this is a site run by developers that purposely and specifically endorses Tankies, yet it’s still stupid to call everyone on this site a Tankie.

            The software is partially written by Tankies, but most instances aren’t run by Tankies. Since it is free & open source software under the AGPLv3, anyone can freely use it. Lemmy also uses ActivityPub, an open standard, and is fully compatible with other Fediverse software like Kbin/Mbin and Piefed. Using lemmy.ml or other instances means that you’re associated with Tankies, but using Lemmy the FOSS software doesn’t. Since Twitter is proprietary, the only option is using twitter.com which is run by a Nazi and actively supports Nazis.

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              The main dev is a Tankie, so not just partially written. And you’re missing the point. Even on lemmy.ml there are plenty of non-Tankies. There are reasons for people to be there other than to support the Tankie devs. In the same vein, there are plenty of reason for people to be on Twitter other than to support the Nazis.

              Being this pedantic in an effort to defend broad brushing groups of people together when they don’t have that much in common is, frankly, pathetic.

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            Wait your argument is that you follow nazis? No man I think I understand the concept fine you’re purposely hanging out with Nazis.

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                I can read fine maybe you don’t know how to write. You said “there’s few of them (nazis) amongst those I follow”. Did you not understand that that means that some of them are? I mean I already knew you liked hanging out with Nazis and now you say you’re following them? Again why you love Nazis so much?

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                  No, I meant that amongst the community that I follow, there are few Nazis. At the end of the day, you cannot be sure that there are 0 Nazis in any community that you follow, that’s just unrealistic.

                  You’re just being pedantic and making so much mental gymnastics in order to call me a Nazi. That shows just how fucked up your mindset is. You’re pretty much trying to demonize a group of people using broken logic to justify your hate. Why are you trying to emulate the Nazi thought process?

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        The good thing is that part barely has any Nazis.

        What was that saying about letting a few nazis into your bar as long as they stay on the side and don’t cause trouble?

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          We don’t let them into our bar, that’s why the part has so few Nazis. The Nazis are running rampant in other parts of the site, but not on the part that I frequent, from my observation at least. That’s why it’s stupid to group everyone using Twitter as Nazi adjacent.

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            Maybe you’re just not identifying them as Nazis? What part do you hang out on where there aren’t insane propagandists and bots?

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              Does a Nazi infested group calls out whenever people is being racist or openly makes fun of Elon Musk?

              I’m sure you can always just argue that they are being Nazis secretly or something, but to call out a group of people to be suspicious of being a Nazi, I would prefer if you have more proof than just conjecture.

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      They are on Twitter because nothing has displaced Twitter for what it is. That’s tricky because people follow the content, so the content generators, the heavy hitters, have to choose en masse to go somewhere else.

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        I think that’s what that Dulles brother said about why he kept doing business with the Nazis even into the 1940s. Even when the rest of the heads of his business said you should stop doing this we don’t need to be invested with the Nazis they just invaded Poland he said no money still there I want to hang out with Nazis.

        Cuz here’s the thing if everyone who wasn’t one left that site it wouldn’t be a problem anymore, a different site would be used.

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      I’m on Twitter because all the OSINT people who track the invasion/war in Ukraine basically only use Twitter. I like following OSINT info to get a real perspective on what’s going on.

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        Maybe it would behoove you to remind those people that they’re on a website run by someone who has a material and vested interest in the destruction of Ukraine. That they should change to another website.

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        I’d like in on that perspective but I’m not going to twitter for anyone. Shit is toxic and stupid.

        On Ukraine, got any non twitter suggestions for perspective? Also, not familiar with OSINT. Care to enlighten me? Open source intel tools?

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          On Ukraine, got any non twitter suggestions for perspective?

          not familiar with OSINT

          Exactly what you said! Open Source INTelegence. Basically people taking publicly available data and using it to confirm attacks. Things like NASA FIRMS data can be used to verify where fires are; and when combined with videos of a fire in the direction of an airfield, for example, can be used to confirm that yes, on this specific date, these parts of an airfield are on fire.

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          Understandable, I don’t know of anyone off of Twitter but maybe some of the people I follow are on Mastodon. I’ll try and find out sometime and get back if they are.

          And yea pretty much, just stands for open source intelligence, people just use publicly available data (mostly drone videos, and paid satellite imagery) to analyze progress from both parties in the conflict giving a real, semi live perspective on advances on the ground, what kind of equipment and quantity of that equipment that have been destroyed.

          This site by oryx is the main one I know of that tracks destroyed Russian equipment that’s confirmed through imagery, so the numbers are likely fairly lower than reality, and the destruction numbers are still staggering.

          Ops I see someone below already linked oryx and some other good sources!

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      People go where they think the people are. X is still the closest thing to Twitter since Elon came along. I deleted my account, but feel like I’m in the minority.

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        You know I once read this really amazing book called They Thought They Were Free. It was written by a journalist right after World War II who went to Germany and talked to normal Germans just German citizens. About how they allowed Nazis to take over how they lived in a Nazi Society how they were okay with it how they kind of joined in on it. A lot of the things they said being said in this thread. It’s all the same fucking logic.

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        If they choose to support Twitter, they must expect to take the consequences. It’s a known cess pit. Being active on a centralised network does harm. You can’t grizzle after drawing innocent people in to such a bad place.

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      Unfortunately Twitter is the absolute best source for the most up to date breaking sports news and nothing that I’m aware of comes close.

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      Can’t believe Biden let the world know his decision first on Twitter, even before the White house Press office.

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    wtf is this journalism??? one guy on twitter said that so now its confirmed. Just tried it and works fine. Do people just upvote this because they hate Elon Musk and want this to be true?

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      Yeah, turns out it was an automated response to the account getting too many follows in a short time. There’s enough genuinely bad things about the platform that we don’t need to get mad at some speculation.

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      Over all I upvote posts if its something I would like to know about.

      In this case its good to know that there was some limit issue that (as on the page say) is already resolved.

      If it was intentionally done or not we will never know, but its good to know if it would happen again that there is some limit.

      I upvote because:

      • even if it was some wrongly implemented limit in this case, the shadow banning/hidding posts (or like in this case blocking follow) will happen in the future on all large platforms, it’s human nature to abuse it if you can get away with it
      • I dont like big central platforms, I rather would like to have a transparent/open platform but I know it will never happen as servers costs money and people like “free” and convenient stuff so platforma will keep monetizing people activity
      • if it could be even slightly true I rather have as many (affected) people know about it that there was an issue with follow and now it is resolved so they can retry to follow
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      Weird right? You’d think they might check. Then they would be able to write something like this.

      An initial search for KamalaHQ on The New Republic’s X account also found that the campaign account is limited. The campaign account showed up in repeated subsequent searches, seeming to suggest the issue is being resolved.

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    Imagine trying winning chess when the board itself plays against you. Twitter/X must be dropped immediately, it’s a censorship-propaganda machine which is now only works for those who control it.

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      Wasn’t that the case when progressives controlled it? Either way, fk X and all other social media services.

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          Anything left of “pretend minorities don’t exist” is progressive to certain people.

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          Dunno, but echoes of it were sounding like Tumblr 2.0

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          Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey: I ‘fully admit’ our bias is ‘more left-leaning’

          Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey said on Saturday that he “fully admit[s]” Twitter employees share a largely left-leaning bias after facing accusations that conservatives are discriminated against on the social media platform.

          In an interview that aired Saturday on CNN, Dorsey said his company has a responsibility to be open about its political viewpoints, but to operate without bias when applying content policies to users.

          ”We need to constantly show that we are not adding our own bias, which I fully admit is … is more left-leaning,” Dorsey says.

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            Ah.

            So you’re a “Libs of TikTok” guy. Conservatives call themselves Liberal and you believe them.

            Jack Dorsey is Libertarian, which is Republican-leaning.

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              lol… Libertarians are classical liberals. They don’t align to a specific side.

              Libertarians nominated a degenerate Democrat.

              And why the FK are we talking about Jack anyway? I said Twitter was controlled by progressives… as in the majority of the org were leftists operating biasedly against their opposition.

              And yeah Libs of TikTok is amazing. Hope more and more exposure continues until the filth is ousted.

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                Defending the Libs of TikTok isn’t the flex you think it is.

                I’m only responding in the hopes you recognize this eventually and grow a bit of self-reflection over this situation. Good luck man.

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                  I support anyone and everyone that exposes any and all facets of evil. So should you and any other sane human being.

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    Sigh. Not surprised… given that Musk is a hypocrite on free speech completely. It’s getting wild. I use this place now because after years of no issues… suddenly I’m shadow banned on Reddit. Instead of getting mad I just left. Screw those who would stifle others but pretend to believe the opposite.

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    Because the butthurt south african shitstain wont let them. Crybaby cannot abide differing ideas