• half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    It’s Illegal to say something like, “I want to kill the president.” Like crazy illegal. It’s ok that I just said it because I was just telling you it’s illegal.

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          Shame everyone got on a hardcore vindictive streak against every perceived ‘microagression’ a decade or so ago.

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            I have no idea what you’re talking about, but I think what happened was that mean dickheads with money started running everything.

            I think John Oliver is still having fun. Maybe some sports panel shows, too. Offhand I can’t think of anyone else, although I don’t watch much TV.

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            There’s thousands upon thousands of famous people. Why waste your time following or supporting someone that you feel is not a good person? Turns out a lot of people feel that same way, hence someone being “cancelled”. No one went on a “hardcore vindictive streak” to get these people cancelled.

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              Oh please. People were swinging that stick around blindly. Sure there were some legitimately bad actors hurt, but the damage it did to society as a whole has been incalculable, as every random idiot with a grudge felt empowered to wield it as a weapon against everyone around them.

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                  I totally have a great example but the Cancel Police deleted their name from my brain with their flouride lasers or something

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                  How about the random people harassed/shamed for the great sin of… spreading their legs on the bus? People were absolutely psychotic in their zeal to attack anyone they could for any reason they could conceive.

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                It is just public shaming in an age where it is almost impossible to control information getting, and/or being spread, around at a scale that wasn’t thought possible until my lifetime.

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                the damage it did to society as a whole has been incalculable

                Ok, that’s hilarious 😂. A few edgy comedians had a rough patch and now Rome is burning!

                I think society will survive any misapplications of cancelling. There is no need to worry.

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                This guy is a bad example. Can we have this debate when it’s someone with the effort? This guy is a huge asshole and I’m willing to ‘no contest’ his cancelling.

                Fight the next one. I beg you.

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                  I’m responding to the person saying they miss when people had fun on TV. That doesn’t happen anymore because too many vindictive assholes feel empowered to ruin people’s lives without a second thought in our current culture.

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    Just arrest his ass. Clearly conspiracy as he’s encouraging others to attempt it.

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        Yeah. It doesn’t really get any less ambiguous without adding “I really mean it in a legally actionable way!” or some such nonsense.

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          I ask because the article says nothing about him encouraging others to do it. I was hoping someone would link or explain more.

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              Did you read the article? The full title of the livestream was, “Will the Deep State Assassinate Biden If He Refuses To Leave?”

              As far as I can tell, the title was clickbait and he did not encourage violence, but I would love to be corrected. Look, I hate defending this guy, I’m just doing this because I hate sensational headlines.

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          I hate Alex Jones but I don’t follow your logic. Can you be less ambiguous to help me out? What did Alex say? The only articles I can find only admit that his stream title was asking if the “deepstate” will off Biden. To be clear, deepstate doesn’t refer to his listeners.

          The reason this matters is that Alex has done many bad things, but if we cry wolf when it isn’t warranted, then it becomes fuel for Mr. Jones to tell his followers about fake news.

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      The idiot is begging to get raided, it didn’t happen when he was saying he might get locked out of his studio and that was one of his most pathetic moments And as a side note, I don’t think he really appreciates what would happen if biden was a martyr.

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    The full title of the livestream was, “Will the Deep State Assassinate Biden If He Refuses To Leave?”

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      This will feed into his narrative that people take his words out of context. It’s playing his game. He constantly claims to be attacked and plays up the victim/martyr card to gain sympathy just so he can sell more supplements.

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    Ya know he may be working angle here. His whole life is over and he knows it. I’ll bet he figures if he goes crazy all in on Trump that maybe he could land some political support in getting his conviction overturned if Trump wins the election. Considering his current situation its probably the only chance he has.

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    Ironically, Biden assassinating him would be cool and legal according to SCOTUS.

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        Yeah, and the current traitor majority would make up whatever bullshit to not do that, regardless of how tight a corner they’ve tried to paint themselves into with the decision.

        But Biden could just assassinate them, too. And then there’d be nobody left to object.

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          Not really, controlling the military is very explicitly an “official act” as stated in the verdict. Biden could literally seal team 6 him with no legal consequences

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            The other recent catastrophic decision, the one overturning Chevron deference, flushed stare decisis right down the shitter.

            When I say they “make up whatever bullshit,” I mean they really make up whatever bullshit!

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              At this point they might as well just say, “any Republican president who toes the party line is immune from prosecution because we say so. Yeah, we’re blatantly partisan, what are you gonna do about it? We’re appointed for life, and you’ll never have enough Democrats in Congress to impeach us. LOL!”

              I’d still hate them, but I’d also appreciate the honesty.

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        No, it just has to be within the duties of the president – official business – How could POTUS doing a military order not be official business ? Whose business would that be other than the leader of the military?

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          Yeah, but if he does it and gets charged for this abuse of power, it will probably be tried before the Supreme Court, meaning they’ll get to ratify whether it actually was official business.

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            Except no it wouldn’t because he wielded power exclusive to the office of president therefore it is considered an official act and his motives cannot even be investigated to find out if it was an abuse of power.

            The degree to which the Supreme Court has fucked the US with this ruling is hard to understate.

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        That can be easily solved by first assassinating any members of SCOTUS who would rule the assassinations to not be official business

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      🤓umm, excuse me, the SCOTUS rule doesn’t make things legal; they stay illegal, but the POTUS will not be held accountable for them.

      isn’t that SO MUCH better‽

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    Look, fuck Alex Jones, but the title of the Twitter Space was “Will the Deep State Assassinate Biden If He Refuses To Leave?”

    Which is some crazy conspiratorial nonsense, but it is pretty far from a call to assassinate Biden. It does technically have the words “assassinate Biden” in it, so the headline is correct on a literal level, but this is some serious click bait…

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      More hack journalism, they don’t even mention the actual title until the very end of the article. I’m pissed I even clicked on that garbage.

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      You make a good point, but I still think that this is more stochastic terrorism from the right. They’re putting the notion of assassinating the president out there into the weak minds of their listeners, who will take that information and do with it what they will. It’s so indirect that Jones and co have plausible deniability.

      Note how they don’t ask if the derp state will assassinate Trump, even though he’s supposed to be its enemy.

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        He’s implying that Biden’s assassination would be good for the left, so it doesn’t seem like that would motivate his base.

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        They’re putting the notion of assassinating the president out there into the weak minds of their listeners

        While I don’t think you’re wrong, AJ has been talking about the president being assassinated for more than a decade. He was sure Trump was going to be assassinated almost constantly during his administration (poisoned cokes and hamberders were popular options).

        People should stop giving that coked out drunkard any publicity, that’s literally all he wants. Well, that and to sell you all kinds of InfoWars Dr Jones Naturals supplements THAT ARE IN NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH INFOWARS, even though his dad owns it and sells all the same products and his mom is talking to him about his dad retiring.

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          People should stop giving that coked out drunkard any publicity, that’s literally all he wants.

          Well, someone was apparently awake during wonk class. Spot on comrade.

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      If you’re always giving people who don’t play fair, the benefits of the doubt, you’re going to end up with fascism.

      Never help vipers survive, they’ll only end up stinging you.

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        If I don’t give people the benefit of a doubt, then I am the one playing unfairly.

        Alex Jones may be a liar, but I’m not.

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          Yes you are, you’re pretending the title doesn’t contain the words “assassinate Biden”, when it clearly does. Now you’re pretending this was ever about truth and lies, when it never was.

          It’s about perception, conveying the quite accurate perception that Alex Jones aids a politically unhinged and destabilizing political atmosphere.

          He should be painted as such, instead you’re out here pretending like he’s a good honest man, that is being lied about.

          You’re lending your honesty and labour, to a side of politics unworthy of the honour.

          You have fallen into the trap of telling the Nazis there are Jews in the basement, thinking it will prove that you’re a good person, when it in fact just makes you culpable for the success of fascists.

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      I think he’s saner than Trump. Because Alex Jones doesn’t really believe the shit he says. But Trump is narcissistic to a level where he would take down the world him if he has no more options to “win”.

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    “news articles” that just showcase tweets should be banned from this community

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      Also anything Alex Jones. This right here, is EXACTLY why he does what he does. No PR is bad PR for him. The dumbest move is trying to tell people about how dumb this guy is. It’s only feeding him. This is how Trump won. Keep your name in the Zeitgeist. Keep gaslighting your victimization and the victimization of your constituency. Gish. motherfucking. Gallop.

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    This guy really likes to dig himself into the stupid hole any chance he gets, huh?