• Striker@lemmy.world
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    Wtf. Why didn’t you mention the cringe lord emperor striker?!

    Edit: using my mod powers to get attention.

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    There’s a lot of other shit but it seems that it’s organically sorting itself out over time.

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          Liberal or not I think we can all agree more unseriousness is needed on Lemmy.

          The top voted comment on a shitposting post amounts to a “WELl aCTcTUAtLY” for X’s sake.

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            Well, actually, “well actually” comments under shitposts usually add ironic value and aren’t too serious, at least most of what I’ve seen

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      @SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world is a maga troll that loves giving the Jan 6th traitors kisses on their little traitor faces

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        She’s more of a Devils advocate. Just stating the wrong opinion for others to explain what’s right. There’s never any clever comeback, so I kind of think that’s the reason for her to shitpost so heavily.

        I’ve blocked plenty of trolls here, but not her, yet.

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      I’m glad I’m not the only one. That account is truly bizarre (from the point of view of how they write and express themselves). I’ve engaged with them a few times and it’s like a weird loop. I know it’s a real person, but it feels like talking to a script or dialog tree because it always goes down the same 1-2 dialog paths

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        I think it’s a bot assisted human. The amount of spam they output is inhuman but they do interact like a human at times.

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      Ok, so I’m not the only one who noticed that their spam has a weird taste to it. It’s got that vibe of some agreeable left-wing content but then feels likes it only there to mask authoritarian narrative building.

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    SMCF is one of the comfort usernames that I’ve seen around ever since joining Lemmy

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        He’s just a notorious genocide cheering guy. He got site banned from Lemmy.world but since kbin allowed you to keep replying locally and he would boost himself to be on the top of the conversation he’d be a general annoyance for us.

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    The tragic thing, though, is that if lemmy ever “takes off”, there’s nothing about it that will make it any more resistant to bots and trolls.

    It’s kinda like back when Macs had no viruses, because nobody bothered.

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      I disagree. Lemmy is more resistant to bots because there’s no perverse incentive to boost user activity numbers to please investors and advertisers. Reddit for example doesn’t really care if most comments are fake on a post. It’s still interaction and it pumps numbers. Lemmy is built and run by us. It serves no other masters.

      Given that users naturally self-sort into instances, your trolls are also more likely to congregate on instances and communities that can be blocked. I don’t want to name any names but I do block some instances from my view for a reason. The Russian bots congregate in places that are amenable to this, and the design of Lemmy encourages this self-sorting into places where you’re accepted.

      The problem is still significant, but there are advantages to the fediverse.

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        I think it would be more likely bots would flood instances with posts at a level that was unrealistic for the small scale admins we currently have to combat.

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          There is a bit of a chain of trust, however. Instance fills with spam bots? Defed.
          Spam bots start making their own instances? Go to whitelists.

          And as henfredemars says, because there is no financial incentive to grow the userbase, instances can slow things right down if the spam starts.

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      nah, descentralisation is what help, i already read as article explaining exactly that, lemmy problem is that one of it first instances are full of trolls lol

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      Not only that, but it’s actually a much easier target because of the relatively sporadic moderation.

      Compared to reddit, the Fediverse’s ability to moderate propaganda and advertising is puny and uncoordinated.

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    Me as an instance admin sitting here reading about how Lemmy doesn’t have trolls and Russian bots, while I’m in a chat with other instance admins and mods where we need to actively coordinate to fight the trolls and Russian bots 😐

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        That’s honestly pretty amazing that you’ve been here a year and haven’t seen a troll! Though you’re on an instance with a very active and determined admin, there is definitely a difference in how much you see between instances because of how removals work.

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        You guys are pretty proactive about blocking and defederating bad faith instances, or even ones not doing enough to deal with bad actors. You were one of the first to defederate Hexbear, and I think you even defederated world at one point?

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              Here’s a good reddit thread over on r/asktransgender.

              Chasers are dangerous to the trans community and turn people into fetish objects, rather than recognizing them as people. It ignores the desires of trans individuals who wish to be seen as the gender they identify with and explicitly chases trans individuals for their being trans.

              Ie, a transwoman is pursued for being a transwoman and not for being a woman.

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                Hey that was me back when I had a kbin account. I’m the account in the screenshot.

                That was a direct response to someone asking if I would have sex with a trans man. I got accused of being a chaser for saying “sure, I guess, pre-transition” (the first part) and being a transphobe for saying “but I’m not sexually attracted to dicks” (the second part). Note those two accusations are more or less mutually exclusive, but it doesn’t matter because they’re both deeply, incredibly stupid accusations. The mods and admins of blahaj pointed out how incredibly stupid the accusations were, and some people didn’t like being called stupid, so they went back to hexbear. And continued to be stupid.

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                  To use an analogy, imagine you’re fat and trying to lose weight. Someone admits they are attracted to you, “sure, as long as you’re still fat”. Can you see how this would not be a good basis for a healthy relationship?

                  People are sensitive because being denied full/legitimate relationships is a frequent pain point for trans people (esp trans women). The classic trope is the boyfriend who will take you on dates but refuse to introduce you to his friends/relatives.

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      Yeah… OP is blind to the massive Kremlin and CCP propaganda problem here in the Fediverse.

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        After hexbear got defederated from most of the major instances, the fucking losers just make alts on different instances so they can continue defending that propaganda filled shithole. Now .ml seems like the new worst, no matter what you do these no-life losers will find a way to spread their bullshit.

        Takes much more effort to try and stop them than it does for these losers to make alts unfortunately.

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          I was under the impression that the .ml admins actually promote them because it’s run by people from Hexbear.

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            Ml is run by the creators of Lemmy, and hexbear is well… Not. Hexbear made their own fork of lemmy a long time ago and only in the past year or so have they been actually able to federate at all. I don’t see the creators of Lemmy going through all that effort to hide their identities if they were actually running hexbear behind the scenes

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            It’s a bit more mask on, and there’s a few legit communities there, as opposed to Hexbear where the entire instance has a stated goal.

            But it’s pretty bad.

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          They’re not just some losers sitting on their mom’s basements, they’re paid or programmed to spread disinformation and division.

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          Hexbear wasn’t federated to begin with many instances, and Lemmy.ml hasn’t really changed as a result of Hexbear getting defederated by servers like Lemmy.world and Lemmy.ca, because Hexbear has a more secluded user-base.

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        Somewhere in Moscow, there’s a big red phone that connects to its counterpart in Beijing, where Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping discuss the latest attempts to influence an indie reddit spin-off with an elaborate network of Markov Chain LLMs producing comments like “I wish y’all wouldn’t be so nakedly racist towards people from other countries.”

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      Welcome to IT. If everything is on fire, they ask why you’re even here, and if everything is ready for the fire and there’s nothing left to do, they also ask why you’re even here

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      same here, i really hate all this neo-liberal drivel about how everything they don’t like is a CCP/Kremlin sponsored propoganda

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    Hard disagree. I’m already spending less time here because the Kremlin and CCP propaganda ruins the experience for me. I don’t even consider recommending it to people I know for the same reason.

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        Just because I’m not seeing these comments and posts doesn’t mean other people aren’t. And if they’re seeing it, then they’ll get seduced by the evil tankie mind-control rays. That means I’ve got to start blocking them, too.

        Pretty soon, I’ll be in this shrinking walled garden of fewer and fewer people who say things I approve of. And then what?! I might begin to question my own self-righteousness or engage in some degree of critical reflection of views. That’ll be it. They’ll have gotten to me, too!

        The whole Lemmy.world community needs to be severed from any instance of heresy. Otherwise, my personal views might be put at risk.

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          Wow, for some reason tho you tankies are on the margins of society. You have to hide in some small holes like rats because no one takes you seriously or bans you.

          And yet you claim that we are the ones hiding and protecting our fragile views…

          No. We just want to skip the second hand embarrassment when we see your content.

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            you tankies are on the margins of society

            It’s funny to see a police officer in an MRAP drive down my street, while a guy on the internet insists my problem is that I’m too much of a militant.

            we are the ones hiding and protecting our fragile views…

            Why else invoke admins and mods to protect you?

            We just want to skip the second hand embarrassment

            If you’re feeling shame because you hear someone assert that genocide is bad, that’s not second-hand. That’s your conscience screaming at you.

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              Keep coping but you are incredibly small minority and any sane person just laughs at you so you hide in some niche web communities like hexbear and yet you are still defederated from en masse

              There’s a sign there ‚hidden’ to reevaluate your life. If there’s smell everywhere you go…

              Have you ever considered that maybe… you are wrong? That maybe your idols Marx and Lenin weren’t such visionary geniuses?

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    i seeked lemmy world out, so glad to be here. what finally made me NEED to get away from R****t was the manufactured outrage, clickbait to an incredible degree. people purposely putting up content that reinforces the status quo by encouraging people to get mad about situations that challenge the status quo.

    also ridiculously stupid questions, way too many people posting photos of shit and asking “whats wrong here” like come on what the fuck. i’m so sick of it.

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    It’s an egregious error to not have The Picard Manuever as our Supreme Ruler