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Following Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the Trump administration’s promise to go after the “radical left” a study showing most domestic terrosim is far-right was disappeared.
Archived: https://archive.is/Ow3FE
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On brand.
“The facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd continues to hate facts.
Inconvenient truth.
That book will probably be banned soon and the author will be arrested and sent to a reeducation camp together with all the other liberal disruptors.
Of course it was.
So, hear me out. According to horseshoe theory…
You’re probably being sarcastic here, but just to clarify, horseshoe theory is nonsense invented by centrists. Take Kirk for example. The left hated him for being a terrible human being. Groypers hated him for not being a terrible enough human being. Superficially the same, but trying to accomplish vastly different outcomes.
horseshoe theory is nonsense invented by centrists
That’s just what a person simultaneously on the Far-Left and Far-Right would want you to believe!
The left hated him for being a terrible human being. Groypers hated him for not being a terrible enough human being.
A bit more seriously, it wasn’t “Groypers” who hated him quite so much as a particular set of far-right slacktivists who were jealous of his success and wanted in on his grift. If there is a single person who might have been held directly responsible for the Kirk shooting (other than the shooter himself), it was Nick Fuentes - who just so happened to be front row center filming when Kirk got-got.
I’ve seen conservatives compare Kirk to MLK, but I think the more accurate comparison would be Tupac.
horseshoe theory is nonsense invented by centrists.
It’s not nonsense, it’s an observation that as people become more politically extreme, they become defined more by their extremism than their ideology.
“Centrist” is a logical fallacy anyway. Nobody declares themselves a “centrist”, there are right and wrong answers to political questions and it isn’t going to be “in between”.
You’re going to have to explain how this applicable in detail before I hear you out.
If you go far enough to the right, I’m told that you come out the other side as a Leftist.
And since the Groyper was to Charlie Kirk’s right? And Charlie Kirk was the most far-right figure that was politically palpable to national media? And also, this guy was some middle-class shitkicker from Utah with poisoned internet brain who we can hallucinate any kind of ideology we want onto?
Defacto Leftist. QED.
It feels like you are shoehorning the horseshoe theory in.
If I wanted to shoehorn something in, I’d use Fish Hook theory as its got better leverage.
Horseshoes aren’t circles. The left and right sides are disconnected except for the one path between them, which to me would imply that one must abandon one side to reach the other. In other words, that theory sounds dumb, or alternatively, only sounds smart if you don’t think about it much.
If you go far enough to the right, I’m told that you come out the other side as a Leftist.
So all of these republicans that are doing shitty, shitty, things (like murder and pedophilia) are just far-leftists that took the horseshoe roller coaster? That is fucking hilarious.
So all of these republicans that are doing shitty, shitty, things (like murder and pedophilia) are just far-leftists that took the horseshoe roller coaster?
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world is being satirical, but this is a genuine and dangerous thought process for rightists. Every time one of their own practices what they preach and commits a violent atrocity, that person is automatically a “leftist.” The reason they can never provide any definition for “leftism” is because they have no idea. To them, leftism is “everything bad” and “anything bad” is automatically leftism. It’s a catch-all bogeyman term for political out-groups that can’t be easily sorted into skin color, sexuality, or genitalia.
I recognized the name, but I couldn’t remember which way it went that I remembered it. I really wish they had tags for users on sh.itjust.works. That would solve a lot.
like the assassination of the Hortmans or attempted murder of the Pelosis
One of the funniest moments after J6 was the real-time shift from all the right-wing AM Radio Heads insisting their movement had been infiltrated by Antifa to them cheering it on and calling the rioters patriots.
Shame Biden didn’t put the whole movement in the grave when he had them on the ropes. But that’s Weimar Liberalism for you.
Well, according to the horseshoe theory that (right of) centrists love so much, yes.
go on
This is being done by the “facts don’t care about your feelings” people?
Feelings are their facts.
And they vote in support of each other.
It’s really annoying
A post truth regime.
Wow, what fragile egos.
Someone keyed my minivan over the weekend, probably because of some pro-trans/science stickers. Luckily the paint is not a concern of mine (it had rattle-canned sections when I bought it, I knew what I was getting), but still. I pointed it out to my wife, she just quipped “and they call us snowflakes 😂”. God I love that woman.
All of this shit makes me want to play dirty now. Preach hate, get hate; and all that.
I’ve been simmering on some ‘radical left-wing’ grafitti such as;
Be Kind
Build Community
Don’t Hate
Love Thy Neighbor
But I don’t want to get black bagged for spreading such subversive rhetoric.
“don’t hate” seems like an extremely radical message. I hate lots of things, and I think it is right to hate those things.
I hate it when Nazis gain power. I hate it when children are molested. I hate injustice. Don’t you?
And how productive has that hate been for you? Has your hate fixed anything?
I was molested as a teen. If you walked up to me and asked me “do you hate that guy” I’d be very confused. I’d say that’s very meaningless question.
You think he cares if I hate him or not? I don’t waste my time hating bad people. It doesn’t solve the problem. Use your energy more wisely.
Something I say a lot “I never solved a problem by being pissed off.”
Just my opinion on tho. You do you.
I agree that there are many unproductive forms of hate. I’m not advocating for you to hate the person that hurt you.
But hate has been productive for me. With our world in decline, it is so easy to get depressed and nihilistic, sometimes I have no hope. Hate is a strong motivator to do something positive for the world.
I can’t argue with that. I find anger and hatred exhausting.
Everybody is different though. If it motivates you I have no business judging.
You’re clearly a menace to society! I ought to turn you into the thought police for my brownie points. I might even get enough for a gold star this year!
I would straight up start busting windows out of any vehicle with trump stickers. But I have a family who needs fed and housed, so I don’t.
Yet.
Honestly, it is the behavior of the righwing that is making me edge towards being a militant leftist. If they are going to lie and persecute the innocent, at what point should they be shielded by civility?
I think when the left’s emotional dam breaks, the conservatives would have to face the consequences for their actions.
The word “militant” is interesting, particularly its use as a vague slur. It suggests something extremist or violent without requiring evidence of such (for example 20 years ago the term “militant atheist” got flung around a lot, referring to people who didn’t believe in God and were outspoken and unashamed of it).
It came to my attention when encountering the Italian counterpart “militante” which means anyone who gets off their ass for the sake of something they believe in. Carrying a sign in a protest would be definitely “militante”. And as such it’s not a slur, or suggestive of anything scary. I guess the meaning in English isn’t so different but for the bourgeois fear of activism which it conveys.
So what’s this bullshit called now cause justice is not the correct word.
I got you, fam, the word you are looking for is “jingoism”.
The MAGA DOJ is the Department of Jingoism.
Per Merriam-Webster’s website:
Did you know?
Jingoism Got Its Start in the 19th CenturyJingoism originated during the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-1878, when many British citizens were hostile toward Russia and felt Britain should intervene in the conflict. Supporters of the cause expressed their sentiments in a music-hall ditty with this refrain:
We don’t want to fight, yet by jingo if we do,
We’ve got the ships, we’ve got the men,
We’ve got the money, too!Someone holding the attitude implied in the song became known as a jingo or jingoist, and the attitude itself was dubbed jingoism. The jingo in the tune is probably a euphemism for Jesus.
Their feelings don’t care about the facts
Here is an archive of the DOJ site in question. They had to be sure they took it down before Vance hopped on Kirk’s nazi podcast to spout lies claiming the opposite of objective reality.
Militant, nationalistic, white supremacist violent extremism has increased in the United States. In fact, the number of far-right attacks continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism. Since 1990, far-right extremists have committed far more ideologically motivated homicides than far-left or radical Islamist extremists, including 227 events that took more than 520 lives.[1] In this same period, far-left extremists committed 42 ideologically motivated attacks that took 78 lives.[2] A recent threat assessment by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security concluded that domestic violent extremists are an acute threat and highlighted a probability that COVID-19 pandemic-related stressors, long-standing ideological grievances related to immigration, and narratives surrounding electoral fraud will continue to serve as a justification for violent actions.[3]
Can’t be letting pesky facts get in the way of them abolishing the Democratic party.
Oh wow… Hey I just learned that water is wet btw.
On a comical note, a liquid’s ability to hold onto a solid surface can be considered “wet”.
There has been considerable scientific and philosophical debate on whether “water is wet”, or if “liquids make solids wet on contact”.
There, learned yet a other thing today!
(Yes. The news content has unfortunately become trite. I understood the sarcasm!)
If we delete and hide the evidence does it really exist?
Just stop testing
I was gonna day, this was something they already tried in his first term during covid.
The lack of serious backlash, outrage, or even general coverage of the insanity and facism that’s coming out of the current administration by the media is pretty concerning.
It feels like everyone is just running with it, and I have a hard time beleiving that many people are OK with all of this.
I feel exactly the same. When TACO says he’s going to lower drug prices 1200% and nobody pushes back or he threatens a news agency and they just say ok. Like fitting people for just saying what Kirk said, while he was celebrated for it just blows me away. No fight at all, just rolling over so easy. Only Harvard seemed to put up a fight.
I feel ya, you keep thinking that there is no way this is real, and yet it is
What scares me is that Trump did this with Arctic temperature data
Down the memory hole…
