Fine the CEO, not to the company. He has to take responsibility.
Fine the company. Take the capital (which will have to serve the community), fine and jail the executives!
Companies are as accountable as the executives.
And put him in jail
When poor people put others in danger and/or exploit things for financial benefit, they go to prison.
Stop giving fines for big companies and actually start putting people in fucking prison.
Don’t be poor, problem solved!
Government can’t be too hard on Boeing, critical space and defense programs are at risk. I wish it was sarcasm.
In my opinion, the US federal government can/should be able take over Boeing temporarily in cases of felony or federal offenses perpetrated by executive personnel for the duration of the criminal investigation and trial.
Fine? Arrest and jail.
Quick, prepare the wrist-slapping fines!
These fellows are going to get slammed and blasted by Congress, it might spoil up to a few minutes of their time on the yacht.
Maybe even Torched!
The total energy of the strong finger wagging that follows this admission will be enough to power a flashlight for 2 milliseconds.
United States Senate be like pull those sleeves up slightly, bad boy!
Much too harsh for this gold-domed “too important to really hold to account” CEO. Perhaps a mildly stern, yet askance look (or two, if the crowd rumbles for more)
Do you mean “award them more fat defense contacts??” Cuz that’s what we’re gonna do!
No real investigation. No punishment. Same Shit Different Day.
Of course they relieved themselves of the resource (human) that negatively impacted the share price.
Same way they relieve themselves of a resource (bolts) that negatively impacts the share price.
“You have a duty to demand the highest safety standards… and [ensure] that ‘speak up’ in fact means speak up, not shut up, as it is meant all too often.”
Tell that to Snowden, Assange, Manning etc.
Obligatory fuck Assange, no protection for Russian Agents.
yawn. The 2016 media ops are really paying dividends.
Haha no. He selectively edited Manning’s stuff to frame the US Army long before 2016.
“Frame” the US Army…? Bro the great satan doesn’t need any framing, its sins are dripping from its fangs and claws.
Then why did he edit videos he used to accuse the Army of war crimes? If they don’t need to be framed, why fuck with the evidence?
Idgaf, death to America
Fuck Snowden too, no respect for him running to Russia. If you think it’s your moral obligation to break the law, you should be willing to take the consequences. You can’t run off to an enemy state that does much worse things than what you were willing to break the law to expose. I have zero doubt Snowden is a traitor and gave Russia whatever they wanted. It’s possible he started off well meaning, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he did it for Russia all along. His original intentions don’t matter now either way, he had a high clearance and Russia now knows everything he learned with that clearance beyond even the scope of his “whistleblowing”.
Fuck the US and any other governments that are doing this dodgy shit that requires whistleblowing in the first place.
Maybe don’t throw your whistleblowers in a jail and let them rot for life, and you will avoid defections to another country.
Can you blame the guy to not want to die in a dark cell for showing the world that your own government is keeping a lot of tabs on you without your knowledge?
He tried to go to other countries, but none of them wanted to take him in except Russia because of what he knew.
So it’s either die in a cell in the US, or live a somewhat free man in Russia.
The choice is clear.
So demand that your government do better and get behind the people that shows you how your government fucks you over.
There would have been a lot of pressure to get him released and would have kept what he revealed talked about and more pressure to end that as well. He’s just a little bitch that wanted to play hero and or a Russian agent.
Spoken like a true keyboard warrior.
Guys I found the gatorade abuser.
He didnt run to russia you moron, his passport was canceled by the USA while he was in russia. And his only demand for giving himself up to the US and go to trial was that he was allowed a public interest defense.
FUCK THE USA. You are licking the boots of a surveillance state, and snowden has more backbone than your entire familytree
Ok keep garbling Russia’s dick.
I have noticed that if you say anything bad about snowden on reddit or now the Fediverse, you quickly get down-voted a lot. I am starting to think this is coordinated somehow.
It’s not coordination when sheep decide to bleat the same thing based off headlines. Most people want to believe he wasn’t a mole because that fits the little guy hero narrative better.
Most people want to believe he wasn’t a mole
This sheep has never seen anyone provide any kind of evidence for such claims.
He could not have gained access from his position to the data compiled. His story on how he did doesn’t add up to anyone with security clearance. The real way it was accomplished isn’t going to be divulged either. The NSA isn’t going to publicly explain whatever avenue was found.
You see that this is trust me bro, no matter how correct you may be, right?
He’s a whistleblower. Corrupt corpos/countries hate whistleblowers. Reddit/Lemmy users hate corrupt corpos/countries. There.
It’s as easy as that, no need to bring out conspiracies.
You are probably right. It’s just the speed and amount that got me thinking otherwise. Lemmy is a lot more popular then I thought.
No, it’s just about the dumbest thing I’ve read today. So far.
Deploy our great bot army!
For what purpose, Sir?
Downvote any post on any social media platform that is critical of Snowden!
As you command, SIr!
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Replace the boot with a dick and you have you and Russia
Haha yeah imagine sucking dick like some kind of GAY.
Snowden is one of the bravest and most heroic Americans alive today, and he is alive because he was smart enough to take precautions instead of letting himself get Epstein’d in some blacksite, like you want. What kinda idiot gets himself killed or imprisoned when he could be free? What the fuck kind of logic is it that says you have to submit to the judgement of a brazenly unjust and oppressive regime? Fuck that shit.
It’s thanks to him that we’re at least aware of the movements of the enemy of the public that is the US state. Braver than any troop. Die mad about it.
There is nothing inherently gay about sucking dick. Snowden is a traitor, nothing heroic about him. Ohh so brave running to papa Putin after stealing US Intel. Brave would be facing the consequences of his actions because he felt what he was so important it was worth it. All this blacksite bullshit is a strawman. It’s far more likely he’s a Russian agent than it is he would have been disappeared and or killed.
There is nothing inherently gay about sucking dick.
Oh, excuse me.
Haha yeah imagine sucking dick like some kind of WOMAN.
Snowden is a traitor, nothing heroic about him
The traitors are the people in government brazenly violating the law and persecuting the heroes who reveal their crimes to the people. Real treason is treason against the people, treason against a government that is oppressing the people is heroism.
All this blacksite bullshit is a strawman. It’s far more likely he’s a Russian agent than it is he would have been disappeared and or killed.
Lol.
Unlike you, Snowden was actually intelligent enough to know what would happen to him if he didn’t make arrangements for his freedom. I have no idea how it’s possible to be as naive as you, but I guess when you’re completely focused on licking the boot, you don’t have much awareness of anything other than that. In fact, your main problem with Snowden is that he made you aware of uncomfortable truths, you’d rather remain in comfortable ignorance so you don’t have to worry about the fact that you no longer have civil liberties. Just don’t move and you’ll never notice the chains, right? You’re too cowardly to face the truth.
I thought he was trying to go somewhere with no extradition treaty with the US and was laid over in Russia when his passport was suspended. It’s kind of outlined here but I could see how that could be concocted and I just want to believe he was better than a Russia mole.
I mean, if I felt morally obliged to disclose illegal or immoral practices to the public, I’d be sure to run so somewhere they can’t get me. If there aren’t proper whistleblower protections, you gotta make your own.
What kind of a cruel world do we live in, where the CEO must apologize in public to the families of the plane loads of people their product killed, in literal crashing planes?
Apologize and then say “I’m proud of our safety record”
I can’t belive I’m saying this but Josh Haley fuckin grilled the fucker
You spelled assassinate wrong, dude
You are invited to a meeting Agent X/Whistleblower Coffee chat.
Going? Yes/No/Maybe
Could this just be an email? I’ve already got enough on my plate.
I don’t know
Can you repeat the question?
You’re not the boss of me now!
And you’re not so big!
My indecisive ass would still hit “maybe”
Location: outside 7th floor
Retaliated against is a funny way to say killed
Imagine killing a man and then saying this…
“I may have committed some light murder.”
Not a big deal, he was kinda asking for it!
Look what he’s wearing!
Points to whistle
Prolly let his other CEO hit it without any complaints!
Big fucking yikes - wonder what the play is here?
Trying to get in front of the train instead of roped into it ?
Either way, more evidence of the psychopathy that is big business in the states, and a byproduct of late state capitalism
wonder what the play is here?
Sometimes even the sociopaths slip up and accidentally tell the truth.
How the f do you even start killing people for this? I mean the PR crisis that follows an assassination makes everything way worse doesn’t it?
You only kill a whistleblower if you’re confident that they would have said something worse in court. It’s almost guaranteed to be front page news.
Exactly this. Whatever those whistleblowers knew must have been so damning, that committing two murders was better publicity.
It’s what he’s paid for
Bad PR comes and he takes the fall of stepping down with an exit package then everyone is happy
Nobody’s fucking happy about any of this. They killed a person for speaking up about something that affects almost everyone.
I suppose I am a bit more cynical than you
There are people who have a lot riding on the line going up (often the same people in high positions in the organisation)
All these whistleblowers make the line go down
Of the people psychopathic enough to accumulate enough wealth to have a significant stake in Boeing, there’s going to be a percentage who are full-psychopath.
It’s what unabated greed looks like
Let’s also not forget those lucrative NASA and Military contracts. A lot of private and public money riding on this.
David Calhoun apologized to the families of Boeing crash victims, saying the manufacturer was “totally committed” to future saftey improvements, as he began testimony at the committee on Tuesday.
Cue South Park investment banker apology.
Also, “saftey”? Seriously, Independent?
That’s the… first… thing… that’s… ever gone wrong.
Do you mean South Park’s BP apology? The investment banker is the “…and it’s gone!” thing.
I did mean the BP apology, good catch.
People have died due to the greed and corruption of the leadership of Boeing. The people at the top have in fact gotten huge financial rewards by taking actions that were likely to kill people. There is no mechanism in US society to hold these people accountable. Are they going to get put in prison? Nope! Are they going to be PERSONALLY fined? Nope!
I really dislike how in Chinese society people are not able to criticize the government. I hope one day, everyone everywhere will have free speech. It’s unfortunate to say this, but in China, this would be dealt with severely and and with impact. I am not saying their mechanism is right, but the US has no mechanism at all. We all know nothing will happen, especially because most of the deaths were foreigners. It’s disgusting and makes the US look bad.
This is why ancient humans invented mob justice. When the laws don’t work, order still needs to be imposed.
Exactly this. In ancient Roman times, emperor Caracalla was infamous for having many of his enemies outright killed. One of these was the brother of a soldier who was assigned to his personal guard at the Rhine border regions. When Caracalla got off his horse for a piss, he got a gladius thrusted between his ribs. For all his might and power, he very much brought that on himself.
Sometimes people like that soldier are the last line of justice in the world.
And yet, still CEO I see…
And apparently NOT in jail at this time
Military-industrial contracts… I doubt he will ever face consequences that he does not choose for himself. :-|
No they fired him, but he’s staying on till they find a replacement. (He did get millions of dollars to boot though)
Oh… I thought they had someone already and this was him, sorry - I edited my comment to apologize for misinformation, thanks for the update!:-)
well anyways he will probably become CEO of another company or find another way to float to the top. his greed might even be seen as a positive trait by other companies.
This just shows you how much of amateur this guy. If he doesn’t know you just lie lie lie what’s he doing being a CEO?
Seriously! Maybe he’s trying to play the honesty card in hopes that people see it as being transparent and we should trust him, but this is admission of guilt and willful negligence that lead to death. The guy should be charged and locked up.
He is not lying because his counsel advised him that trick won’t here. They are doing damage minimization.
This clown should be prosecuted for murder tho
