Shoot at the problem then deal with the consequences later, it’s the American way
Some of these wackos dream of someone trespassing so they can finally shoot someone, but I’m sure their dream doesn’t include the trespasser being armed too.
I can’t imagine this happening in the Netherlands… Wtf…
…or really anywhere in the civilised world
It absolutely does happen here. Like this one for example: guy chases young girl with an axe after messing with his doorbell.
https://nos.nl/artikel/2438126-man-wordt-boos-om-belletje-trekken-en-verwondt-man-met-bijl
Don’t mess with the wrong people. You never know what’s going to push them over the edge/
That girl would have 100% been shot and killed if this happened in America.
Ja, Limburg. Vandaar. ;)
Edit: the axeguy was stopped by visitors of a local bar while pursuing the little girl. Noone got seriously injured and the unhinged moron was left in police custody.
Now, in the US these kind of stories have a different ending. In the US this guy would’ve shot the girl and rampaged through that bar.
This is why I’m glad in Canada guns have to be stored locked.
Not everyone does this, but you have to go through training and and there are serious consequences if you don’t.
If you did this here you would be charged with murder and improper storage of a weapon.
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… By which time the kid may have been gone, or at least far enough away that he would have been hard to hit.
Or, you know, this violent, impulsive sack of shit may have had 10 extra seconds to think about what he was doing and be like “oh yeah, I don’t want to go to prison”.
If you can go and unlock your gun, load it, get to the door, and shoot this kid then you’ve confirmed to every jury in the country that you murdered them.
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The kid was shot in the back You know, cause he was running away and all.
It is wild to me that someone hears their doorbell and their instinct is to grab their gun. I cannot imagine losing your child this way. I know school and mass shootings are awful and kill many more children. The difference is the intent; on some level Americans are aware existing means we could be the victim of gun violence. We do not expect idiots to shoot at us with no intent to go on a killing spree and especially not at our children outside of schools.
I almost don’t blame parents for not wanting to let their kids play outside anymore
It is wild to me that someone hears their doorbell and their instinct is to grab their gun
Seriously, my first instinct (like any normal person’s) when I hear my doorbell is to pause whatever I’m watching or playing, turn off the speakers, and slowly and silently creep towards the door to peek through the peephole and see if whoever rang without scheduling first has already gone away and I can go back to my normal life.
What am I going to do with a gun, shoot the bastard and cause even more people to come to my door‽
Child homicides and violent crimes are lower now than they were 40 years ago. Around 1992 was when it was the worst in the past 45 years. That’s not even per capital either. Just number per year. In 1980 the population was 226 million. Now it’s 340 million, so even though there’s over 100 million more people, there’s still less violent deaths.
Kids are safer. It’s just blasted all over the news and internet anytime something fucked up happens.
While that’s all true, I think it’s a worthwhile exercise to examine if the number of people being shot for ringing a doorbell or turning around in someone’s driveway has experienced a statistically significant increase over the number of instances 40 years ago*.
It could be argued that the media (and the fascist scum running the country) blasting stories about made-up or exaggerated crime are directly responsible for any increase in insanity by chicken-shit gun-fetishists.
* Of course, you’d also need to factor in the reality that 40 years ago, in some areas you could murder someone for ringing your doorbell, and depending on the skin tones involved it might not even be reported.
You also have to factor in that parents these days don’t let their kids go outside and do anything by themselves. My aunt won’t let her 10 year old grandson walk by himself 150 ft from her son’s house to hers, in broad daylight while she is at the door watching out in the safest suburb of a small city.
Fox news fucked up this whole generation.
Why is this article not framed as if this was a crime? They never mentioned the shooter or his consequences. It’s not illegal to ring a door bell.
The Houston police department have not released the identity of the boy or the occupant of the home, but said a middle-aged man has been arrested and several weapons were later recovered from the home.
It happened on Sunday; that’s all the consequences that have happened thusfar. There will likely be a trial, but the justice system moves a lot more slowly than it would have to for there to be anything more than that yet.
Fair enough.
This just in: https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/02/us/houston-ding-dong-ditch-shooting-arrest
He’s been charged with murder
You sure showed that 11 year old boy! What a real man’s man. Super tough guy. No one is going to knock on his door now!
No one is going to knock on his door now!
Because his new door has bars and is locked from the outside.
What a shithole country. Total no-go zone.
Are you trying to be ignorant?
Are you trying to defend a shithole country where kids get shot for ringing doorbells or going to school?
You could’ve just said “yes.”
How is what they said ignorant? I’m asking as an American.
Any country that goes through a Sandy-Hook style shooting and doesn’t amend their gun control regulations, is a shithole country.
QED.
Trump famously referred to other countries as shithole countries. People often darkly mock him and the us by referring to the us as a shithole country. Not really sure how ignorance plays a role in their comment, but it’s possible you’re ignorant to that context so just adding that here.
Even if he had stood his ground he wouldn’t be let off
“Why don’t kids play anymore”
Once saw a mother with kids in her car, drive past another group of kids playing soccer in the street. She’s sped past them yelling, “next time I’ll just run you idiots over!” (not a busy street at all!) maybe one car every 10 min. Those kids don’t play soccer any more.
There was more violent deaths in children in the 70s, 80’s, and early 90’s, than there is today, even though there’s over 100,000,000 more people in the US than there was in 1980. Kids are safer. People like you just think it’s worse because now it’s blasted all over the news and internet for you to see anytime something like this happens.
Not only was there more child murder back then, but they were less likely to be solved. Do you remember the whole missing kids on milk cartons? It started when a paperboy was abducted and never seen again. Also whoever did it completely disappeared, too. The police didn’t have any leads or suspects.
In the 90s it was the same thing. You know the Amber alert? It was named after a girl who was kidnapped and murdered. Her killer was never found. Not a single suspect interrogated, either. Some DNA did surface in 2022 or so, but that didn’t lead to any suspects either.
While there was more violence and crime then, normal people seem entirely unhinged now. Maybe it’s just the news but back then I would have trusted neighbors and feared crime whereas today the neighbors seem scary (at least in certain parts of the country. That doesn’t generally happen here)
Statistically, it is just being blown out of proportion by the media. No one sells ad space by reporting that nothing terrible happened again today.
Ignore the stories you’ve heard about things happening “somewhere”, and think about what’s happened on your street.
Your neighborhood may be a cesspool of violence and death, but the smart bet is that it’s just as peaceful and boring as mine.
Didnt the media report on crime in the 80s and 90s, too? I mean with the incredible amount of crime happening back then (at one point New York City had 2000 murders a year, while today it is closer to 200 or 250) they could have made it a fuckload more sensational. How the fuck did greatly reduced crime translate to more media sensation?
News reporting was different then.
In the 80s, most people got their news from broadcast network news shows or newspapers. CNN only just started in 1980. The Fairness Doctrine wasn’t eliminated until 1987. Fox News didn’t start until 1996.
There wasn’t ever a need for a 24x7 news channel. There still isn’t, but we have multiple 24x7 news networks. They have to blow things out of proportion like never before to try to get viewers.
You answered your own question with your last sentence.
People like you
You know nothing about me.
I’m aware that violent crime against children is down significantly over the last few decades. But have you considered that the same news reporting allowing us to see these stories, also allows parents and children to see them? Could that possibly have an effect on children’s behavior? You’re ignorant and overconfident. Blocked.
Yeah. I definitely mean people like you.
I used to knock doors back in the 1990s raising money for Jump Rope for Heart. Not once did I have to worry about being shot. And that was in Texas! Also in 1999 I was a door to door sales man for Orange Solve. Again never had an issue For fuck sakes my grandfather sold life insurance door to door. We used to have door sales man and not mention religious people who would go door to door. Not once did you hear stories like this.
I blame fox news. They have made these people so fucking scared. Life was more dangerous back in the 70’s-80’s for a kid.
Guess that’s what they want to go back to. I hope this man gets life in prison. Goddammit I am sick tired of these fucks ruining and destroying our world. Fucking piss baby.
In Louisiana in the early 90s a Japanese foreign exchange student was shot during a Halloween party when he accidentally knocked on the wrong house in costume. When he walked away, the home owner came out with a revolver and yelled ‘freeze’. He didn’t understand what that meant since his English was poor and he walked towards them and was then shot. He probably also thought that he DID go to the right house and as it was Halloween it was probably a gag.
The home owner was acquitted, but it caused an international incident.
Never heard of this. Of course I was kin the early 90’s.
Thanks that sucks, fucker got away with it. And his house brother killded himself in 2023. Fucking monsters still have not paid out the judgement they owe. I hope they had a rotten life after that. Living in a trailer park to good for them.
It’s crazy to me they can just not pay a cent of the judgement. As of a 2022 article, the only amount paid out was by insurance
Couldn’t find anything about their lives
My mother told me about an incident where a ethnic Chinese man (or woman? can’t remember what I heard) in the US was going through the trash looking for those bottles/cans that you can sell for money (you know those that says 5 cent / 10 cent if recycled?), so there was a kid in the house who their parents left alone at home armed with a fucking gun and he started shouting at the man to leave, but he didn’t understand English, so the kid shot and killed the man, claiming to “feel threatened”. The shooter being a kid means there were no charges.
That conversation basically set the atmosphere (as in, the mental picture that I have) of what America was like. Its probably one of the reasons why I (as someone who is also ethnically Chinese) have this self-imposed restriction of never going to a republican area or any racially homogenous areas (particularly those all white suburbs / rural places)
I never looked it up, but let me know if you found an article that matchs what I was told.
I canvassed door-to-door in Ohio in the mid-80s for a public interest org and I also never feared for my life. Although one time I had knocked on one door and was actually leaving the property when the homeowner opened his door and let his doberman out. This thing barked at me and seemed to be trying to bite me but I was able to keep my clipboard in front of his head. Anybody trying to defend themselves from a dog should try using a clipboard.
However, I’m white. I had a friend from Sri Lanka who was working the same job and his experience was a bit different. One time he was walking down a road and heard a noise behind him, turned around and saw a car approaching him with a guy sticking out of the passenger window holding a baseball bat.
Holy shit that crazy. When I did door to door always had an uneventful experience. Even when I canvas here in Oklahoma it was meh. Guess other benefit ot being white.
I hope they’ll lock up all of fox news, oann, etc as well as these lying fucks are the reason for people’s minds being so fucked up
My ex-wife once took a part-time job helping to register voters during the run-up to the 2020 election. I decided to drive her around for these visits to make sure she was OK. The amount of people opening the doors brandishing firearms was insane. Around 15-20% of the doors she knocked on. One time she walked up to a nice looking house, but came back really quick, turns out there were a couple of children (8-10 years old) in the garage that were holding rifles as she came up, and as she did, the leveled them in her direction.
That was the last house. Never again. Conservative americans are (and I say this with only love in my heart for people born with an extra chromosome) fucking retarded. I hope for them nothing but the worst.
That’s scary and so fucking crazy. We can’t fix these people. We need to one cut off Fox News and any right wing media, then we need to pump billions into education.
We also need to lock all these people up in institutions until we can deprogram them.
Should have called the cops and said they were brandishing.
What state was this?
This is different from just ringing doorbells. The article doesn’t say it and glosses over the fact that this kid was doing it for TikTok. The fuckin stupid ass TiKtOk ChaLLeNgE is to go up and kick the shit out the door as loud as you can, then run away after terrifying whoever is inside.
It’s no excuse to shoot, but it’s not a simple “kid rang the doorbell”
What color is your skin, though?
I’m white but I worked with people of color knocking doors we never ran into these issues in the 1990’s.
i dunno. I have a friend who’s asian, sold door to door in DFW in the 90s and regularly had guns pulled on him.
Really? What was he selling?
Protection.
i legitimately don’t remember. it was 30 years ago.
Ooooo boy, prison loves them a child killer.
Ding dong ditch used to be a staple of kiddie pranks… for fuck’s sake! Do none of these idiots have any real threat assessment? Or are they so desperate to shoot someone that they just wanna blast some kid and say they feared for their lives?
Do none of these idiots have any real threat assessment?
More that they’ve got a house full of guns, an ear full of “crime wave!!!” media, and a not insignificant amount of mental illness.
“If someone rings my doorbell and runs away, they’re targeting my house for a burglary” is a thing lots of people unironically believe.
Or are they so desperate to shoot someone that they just wanna blast some kid and say they feared for their lives?
Definitely elements of that, too. But in the sense of feeling like they want to be the hero of a story they’ve heard on Talk Radio.
A lot of these people are legit delusional.
“If someone rings my doorbell and runs away, they’re targeting my house for a burglary” is a thing lots of people unironically believe.
Is this really a commonly held belief? The fuck? Makes no goddamn sense whatsoever.
“If someone rings my doorbell and runs away, they’re targeting my house for a burglary” is a thing lots of people unironically believe.
God help me, I’m going to lose it with the next idiot that I hear this shit from. My parents constantly regurgitate simulacrums of that line. Somehow we’ve moved on foolish grans mass spamming the emails about people putting tags on your car at the gas station to follow you home… but it’s ‘moved on’ to the insidious new middle-aged twats on facebook losing their minds about shit like kids being kidnapped from their school by secret russian/chinese/iranian/democrat black-ops teams.
None whatsoever. They’re bloodthirsty savages. Itching for any excuse to murder someone.
I give it 2 weeks before the shooter is being interviewed on Fox. Whinging about how he’s really the victim of some nebulous “woke mob” that drug him online for murdering a child.
There is something ingrained in certain people I’m finding. I’m a big dude who can handle himself if need be, but I also have guns cause the state does too. Moved from a more liberal area to this purple pearl in a very red area. Had a girl over one night and heard some rustling outside the door. I put on pants and went to go check it out and she asked me why I wasn’t bringing my gun. Jackie, my sister in Christ, we are outside the downtown area of a fairly safe little tourist trap. At the absolute worst it could be is a small black bear that I just scream at. But I’m not going to jail for firing a gun near downtown(although that doesn’t tend to stop anyone else around here).
Or are they so desperate to shoot someone that they just wanna blast some kid and say they feared for their lives?
It is exactly this. These are deeply violent people who are actively seeking any reason to hide behind the excuse of self defense.
Or are they so desperate to shoot someone that they just wanna blast some kid and say they feared for their lives?
Too many people are kept in check by fear of getting caught by the law and will turn into savage beasts at the slightest opportunity.
As someone raised by conservatives, it’s #2. They fantasize about being in a scenario where they have to defend their home with a gun. It’s a core component of being a conservative.
I think they are just stupid, scared people who watch Fox 24/7 and really think bad things are happening everywhere. Or to put it more succinctly, they are little bitches.
could you imagine the danger they were in by a 10 year old ringing a doorbell?? NO YOU CAN’T!
At 11PM?
Well maybe not for an 11 y/o, but sure, high school boys are rarely any more grown up.
Who cares? They rang the doorbell and ran.
You only know that after the fact, from outside. I assure you the homeowner absolutely did not think of that at 11PM. Get real with your “who cares” nonsense.
You’re right, the correct response is to just start blasting
Bro I used to be out doing shit on the streets at sleepovers at like 3-4 am. 11 is not the justification that you think it is.
11 PM? So what? Is that when ‘the purge’ starts in that nasty rat hole state or what?
It’s when kids, traditionally, are in bed. But you do you if 35 year olds do the ding-dong ditch in your holler, sounds like you’re a good fit.
When school shootings arent enough
There’s always someone way crazier than you think, right in your own neighbourhood. And you never know what tiny thing will push them over the edge to do something like that.
So yeah, parents really need to teach their kids not to do annoying things like that. It can get them seriously hurt - or worse - messing with the wrong people. Us adults know that, children need to be taught that.
I know what you are saying, and i agree, except i don’t think the root of the problem is addressed. Those crazy people shouldn’t have access to guns.
Clearly this individual shouldn’t have access to them. We don’t know the guy’s history, but there certainly have been cases where people had known mental issues and still retained access to guns. That’s definitely a particularly scary thought.
Those few and rare cases… Looks at daily scrolling list of school shootings… So very rare.
Oh but gun control laws are not needed are they America? But an old irrelevant document from 150 years ago says otherwise so clearly the matter is closed.
Try 234 years for 2nd Amendment…
Actually, the document doesn’t really say that, it’s just that we love murdering children so much, that we pretend that is what it says.
Even the “old west” had gun control.
But they need them for when the fascist government takes over! Oh, right, all the 2A people are on that side…
I’m not saying anything whatsoever would warrant this, but were the kids at least, like, throwing eggs? Knocking the mailbox over? To fire a weapon at someone for ringing your bell is just so unhinged that how could he even make it that far?
I don’t care if the kid threw a brick through my window, murdering a child is completely unforgivable and there is zero justification for it.
Imo, the only time shooting someone is even remotely justified is in the defense of someone’s life or as a very last resort when there are no other options.
Simple really. Guns are treated like kids toys in the good ol’ USA, and “every single mentally deranged psychopath absolutely HAS to be allowed to own one, 'cause that’s the only way to stop fascism” - The National Rifle Association 1871-present
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