Donald Trump announced shortly after that he too would never pardon his son Eric. He was quoted as saying “I never liked that kid.”
“I don’t care for Eric.”
Not sure about Eric, but he has assaulted Jr over wearing a sports jersey.
it was a yankees jersey though so that makes sense
I would pardon him just to piss off the right.
Not pardoning him would piss them off more and gives them zero firepower on the topic…
Edit: legitimate firepower anyways…they would still claim some bullshit about he’s a bad dad and doesn’t protect his son or some garbage like that.
Honestly, there’s a contingent who would dislike him less if he used a pardon to protect his son
See those people don’t actually like corruption, they just like winning. If they lose then corruption is bad, if they win then it’s just being clever. So they’d still hate him, probably moreso.
Just pardon one hour or $1 off whatever he has to do, just to flex.
I would just commute the sentence so I didn’t technically lie.
Republicans will attack him either way.
Pardons Hunter:
“Biden is abusing the legal process for his son! Biden crime family! Reeeeee!!!”Refuses pardon:
“Biden doesn’t even love his son enough to pardon him! Reeeeeee!!!”Nah, they don’t want to draw attention to Biden not abusing the justice system for personal gain, because it undercuts the whole “he’s abusing the justice system for personal gain by prosecuting political rivals!” It would absolutely be a counter productive strategy.
You think the average GOP constituent is capable of making that connection? Lol
Yes. But more importantly, the ones steering the ship know they aren’t aiming their talking points at the faithful, but trying to convince people on the fence.
Which is why there is no dialogue with people arguing in bad faith.
And we as a society need to recognise that, and act accordingly.
Debating with a MAGA person is literally like arguing with a toddler. They react impulsively, with only feelings, and disregard logic and facts. The difference is a toddler still has a chance at growing up…
Baseball bat to the larynx?
He won’t need to. They’re in the wealthy class so the son won’t get much jail time if any. Nobody interested in hiring him would give a fuck about this conviction.
We have a two-tier system. It has been obvious for a while, but Donald getting $1,000 scoldings for sending Trumpanzees after the court’s staff and family has shone a spotlight on the discrepancy.
Pretty sure the judge had his hands tied for the max fine he could dole out to Trump. Still a problem that should be fixed but it’s not cause of the judge.
How on earth are trying to both sides this lmfao
Learn to read
A leftist that points out inequality inherent in the system? What a strange thing to encounter on Lemmy. I’m positively flummoxed as to how this came about.
If you ask anyone from .ml, I’m not even a leftist. I am pretty dead set against Donald, whereas they (and Bibi) want Donald elected.
Theu dont want Trump elected. They want Biden to actually do something to stop the genocide.
I want that. The ones telling people to vote for Jill Stein don’t want less genocide, they want Donald and more genocide. They want Ukraine to lose all support also.
Jill Stein wants no war. your accusation is pure bad faith.
Jill Stein is not going to be president. Your assertion is in bad faith or ignorance.
Leftists carrying water for fascists? Definitely not a strange thing to encounter both on Lemmy and in history.
Some of us have moved beyond team sports and are now questioning the game.
I sympathize with being sick of bothsidesers, but I don’t think that’s what I’m doing here. The justice system is unfair as it is. Dems aren’t doing enough but Repubs want to make it even worse. If youths came out to vote in every election we wouldn’t be stuck with these two choices, but there is very clearly just one sane choice.
If youths came out to vote in every election
They did, and their candidate lost anyway. Too many olds spread across too many districts.
Maybe if you can convince a few hundred thousand Youngs to move to Wyoming…
Every election. The parties cannot count on the youth vote. They both seem to be acting like they don’t care what youths want. I am assuming a correlation there. Unfortunately it’s correlating in both directions.
The parties cannot count on the youth vote.
The youth vote isn’t a specific set of people. Its a continuous cohort of new voters entering the pool. And the parties are deeply wedded to the youth vote, in so far as they need to get their hooks in early in order to guarantee consistent turnout in later generations. Big investments in social media by partisan groups - from TPUSA to Joe Rogan sponsors - are predicated on winning over young people to right wing ideology. And Republicans consistently have some of the youngest elected party members because they aggressively recruit young people into leadership
What can’t be counted on is the liberal party to engage with younger voting cohorts. You don’t see Democrats engaging with youth activist movements. You don’t see Democrats courting the college vote. You don’t see Democrats attempting to seat ideological 20-year-olds in city councils or state legislatures and build up the back bench. You don’t see the national party investing in professional party workers under the age of 30. Liberalism is the party of stoggie old dinosaurs telling their grandkids to shut up and vote for them, then getting mad when they only win 60-70% of the youth vote and still lose.
When liberal democrats burn out in their 30s and 40s, because they’ve been lied to and betrayed over and over again, all we get from the liberal party is “The other guys are worse, though!” As though that shit was ever a winning strategy.
It isn’t a “both sides” thing, it is a class thing. The wealthy never face consequences unless they personally perform some heinous act, and even then it isn’t guaranteed.
Maybe you shoukd, Please re read his last paragraph
There’s always been a 2-tier system, through all nations and all times.
One of my favorite parts of Noble House, set in 1840s Hong Kong, was a Chinese guy disgusted with the English notion of “equal under the law”. “Of course there are different laws for the rich and poor! Why else would I strive to be rich?!”
I think on that now and again.
“Some day I might be rich, and then people like me better watch their step!”
I tried many, many times to read Noble House, but it was too long for me to get through it.
Anywho, if I remember, wasn’t it set in the twentieth century?
It’s like a 100-tier system. Society is hierarchical.
Eh, I’d do it on the last day for grins.
Day after the election.
If he loses then he definitely should, one last fuck you to Trump since our boy Joe won’t get another chance.
This. He should have said, “I’ll only pardon my son if I lose the election. Voters, it’s in your hands now.”
Bidens pardons are reserved for Netanyahu.
Literally the only answer to this question, though. He can’t say he will pardon him, politically it would be terrible and it might impact the trial itself. And he can wait until after the election and pardon him then, even though it will mean he was lying now.
I don’t think this comment is particularly newsworthy.
It’s newsworthy when Trump is out here saying that he’s going to go scorched earth on anyone who has ever wronged him.
“Breaking news: Old man not entirely senile yet”
“Old man’s PR staffer has half a brain”
As a semi competent politician its obvious 1) you have to say this and 2) you do your upsetting pardons after the election
Check out the brain on Brad
Does he need to for what is likely to result in the standard well-to-do white guy punishment of a small fine and community service?
And when he does, watch a bunch of other rich white guys complain that he’s only being let off because he’s the president’s son.
He was only investigated because he’s the president’s son
I feel like if the shoe was on the other foot (Don Jr in trouble) Trump is bitch and moan that it was politically motivated and a witch hunt and then pardon him.
One of the few cronies he didn’t pardon was Cohen, and look how that worked out for him, lol.
Feels like he’d only act if was Ivanka or something that would also cause trouble for him. Trump isn’t afraid of dumping anyone
Like a real crime boss, Trump never, ever dumps on family. No one else is safe, but the wife and kids are sacrosanct.
Now that I think on it, the man does indeed seem to have a single moral. How odd I’m just now seeing it.
Just like that moron did with other criminals that should not have been pardoned. BTW now that that piece of shit is a convicted felon, we should start to undo anything he ever touched while in office. All those pardons he did, send them the fuck back to prison. Just like how crooked cops have their previous cases under scrutiny.
Yeah! Time for Afghanistan 2! /j But for real, we can’t just broad brush this thing. While most of it was shit, probably several things were decent things that got through in spite of the administration’s ineptitude.
You realize the office of the US President is involved in important things in the world, and isn’t just a vehicle for revenge against a former President?
isn’t just a vehicle for revenge against a former President?
Trump is the one who needs to learn that lesson
I’m sad it’s news when a president/presidential candidate announces something totally reasonable.
He probably would’ve announced this anyway, even if politics were much more normal than they are now. The thing is, it wouldn’t have been so newsworthy. It would’ve just been a normal, reassuring statement that we all expected to hear.
He probably would’ve announced this anyway, even if politics were much more normal than they are now
If politics were “more normal than they are now” it wouldn’t have been a statement he would need to make.
It’s a pretty low bar that a politician shouldn’t be assumed to be abusing their power.
I’m always disappointed hearing news about Biden. So boring and normal. Where did my emotional rollercoaster of reading the news when Trump was president go?
Dark brandon better beat that facist dumbass come november though.
doubt
The dude bought a gun while high off his ass on crack. If it were anyone else, the Dems would be up in arms about the person not being arrested while the Republicans would be defending his right to bear arms. I’m not seeing too many people saying Hunter should be let free.
From what I’ve read, we routinely arrest people for drug charges who turn out to be longtime addicts and who have “legally” purchased guns. It happens all the damned time, there are rarely any significant repercussions, and nothing about this stands out about this case except who the guy’s father is. And I’m not saying he shouldn’t be held accountable for a crime, in just taking accepting to your “if it were anyone else” line.
I’m not saying he should be let free, but I am saying they’re clearly seeking a disproportionate penalty than what most people get, because it’s politically motivated.
That could never happen in America, come on now
I’m finding it hard to find any useful statistics for sentencing on the specific crime he did. Do you have any way to back up that claim about the penalty being disproportionate? All I can find is sentencing guidelines that seem to be pretty much written into the law so those would apply to everyone.
Fox News: “Biden weaponizing justice department against own son!”
Why does Joe Biden not simply say the Deep State arrested his Son and then Pardon him and Blame any and all NEGATIVE Media on the Deep State too?
Biden’s voters aren’t dimwitted cultists.
