Voters approved sick leave mandate by 58%, but lawmakers are caving to lobbying by the state’s chamber of commerce

Being sick is a costly business for Bill Thompson, who worked in the fast-food industry in Independence, Missouri, for more than 30 years, and recently worked at Guitar Center until early July, when he was laid off as.

“As an older worker, I have health issues from working on my feet and with my hands for many years with no breaks for eight to 10 hours a day. I have done it for 38 years now, living paycheck to paycheck,” 54-year-old Thompson said, noting in Missouri, workers are not mandated breaks of any kind during work.

So when Republicans in Missouri repealed a paid sick leave mandate that the state’s voters approved by 58% after an aggressive lobbying campaign by the Missouri chamber of commerce and industry and other business industry groups, he said, “It was a literal gut punch.”

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    I’ve never understood this. Even from the viewpoint of an extremely selfish person; do you want someone with COVID, the flu, or a cold making your food, or even just interacting with you in a retail environment? And as for employers; how shortsighted are you that you don’t realize that while one sick person coming in may be better for productivity than them staying home, that quickly becomes five sick people working much less efficiently instead of four healthy ones and one person out sick?

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      I used to work for someone who prided herself on never missing work. My first day back after catching bronchitis from her, she called me into her office to berate me for taking time off when she was there working with a 104 degree fever all week.

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        I don’t know what’s worse, those dipshits that never take the time, or the ones that come in sick because sick days are for impromptu golf days.

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        Yeah but that’s not an answer. It also makes no sense.

        Get people to think through the fact that that does not help them.

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          Yeah but that’s not an answer. It also makes no sense.

          Sure it is. You want people to suffer. This policy does that.

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    I was talking with my brother about how republican state congresses tend to overturn voter initiatives. I don’t understand this cuck attitude that keeps so many people voting for them.

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      They’ve spent decades demonizing the left so thoroughly that any idea that they dislike and can associate with the left hey do so ad nauseam.

      So any idea that would help those on the right just has to be called liberal and they’ll vote against it even if it hurts them too. It’s literally an unthinking knee-jerk hatred and reaction at this point. No thinking required.

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        Still. They vote for something and then their reps reverse it. I mean you would think something would seep through there.

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          you would think

          I live in Missouri. This is the first mistake you make when attempting to reason with these fucking idiots.

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          You’re still assuming these people arent all literal cult members. We are in nazi germany fam, those people wouldn’t vote for democrats even if they were thrown into the concentration camps. There’s no amount of abuse they wont accept for the privilege of being a fascist.

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            Unfortunately I agree here. I, like many I think, have wondered how nazi germany came to be and I really did not mean the musing to be fulfilled as some sort of wish to experience it personally but here we are.

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            There’s no amount of abuse they wont accept for the privilege of being a fascist.

            Spot on. Seeing some of the people who previously relished in Trump’s evil, eventually have their lives ruined by it, will be one of the few truly enjoyable things for me in the coming years.

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      Because the Democrats aren’t running on those platforms, because they are also opposed to thise initiatives. The Democrats COULD run on a platform of guaranteed sick leave, mandatory holiday pay, rent control, and other wildly popular pro-worker policies, but they don’t ecause they want to “appeal to moderates” or some other dumb bullshit. So you end up with a useless Democratic party in states like Ohio, Missouri, and Wisconsin who refuse to help people because they don’t want Republicans to call them socialists. Then come election time they get caleld socialists anyway who support " illegals stealing jobs and giving abortions" or whatever and and shocked Pikachu when they keep losing elections. Until Democrats start openly campaigning on things that immediately benefit workers, they will continue to lose ground to the Republicans.

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        thats all fine but when the folks you vote for are reversing he specific thing you voted for. I mean its not hard to realize you need to not be putting these people in power. At the very least they could just not vote actively for the ones doing this. I don’t see how the dems not good enough plays in. If Im dying of thirst and I have a choice of drinking from a sewage pipe or a stream. Im going to risk the stream.

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          The people have been so deeply brainrotted, that they will never vote for someone with a ‘D’ next to their name. Many of them would literally rather die.

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      Yeah, screw the people who can’t afford to leave! Their neighbors are morons so they deserve to eat shit as well!

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    NOTE: Not a literal gut punch.

    Thank you for your attention to this grammar.

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    This is what happened in Ontario. Our premier took away mandatory paid sick days right away and guess what happened next? …Ontario voted for him again 4 years later with a majority. And then they did it again earlier this year.

    Never underestimate how stupid the voter base is.

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      It’s because they do these things strategically. They passed these corporate centric laws that hurt voters in the years when there’s no election. Then they spend the rest of the time pumping social issues that their conservative minded voters care about like abortion and immigration totally overshadowing the thing they did to screw over the voters. And the, now conservative controlled, media helps them to cover it all up.

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    They’ll forget about it when the petrolum they’re dumping in the water hits the memory centers of their brains

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      So when Republicans in Missouri repealed a paid sick leave mandate that the state’s voters approved by 58% after an aggressive lobbying campaign by the Missouri chamber of commerce and industry and other business industry groups

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        But the republicans are in power and have campaigned for years on a clear platform to support capitalists and not the working class.

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          I understood 2 of those phrases but the rest sounds like commie bullshit.

          • Republican voters
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            “Even on a day where Missourians sort of overwhelmingly voted for Donald Trump, Josh Hawley and Governor Kehoe, they also overwhelmingly voted for an increase in paid sick days,” von Glahn said. “Any notion that there’s really a Republican party, that is a party of workers, Missouri shows just how much of a stranglehold corporate interests still have on the Republican establishment. I think that’s a cautionary tale for working-class people.”

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              oh silly people, they think they can have thier slice of the pie when they vote for the gop that would do something like this. they cant have both, its either one or the other with republicans.

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      In this instance, they voted for paid sick leave. Yeah, these people should have the day they voted for.

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      In this dude’s defense, no where does it mention him being a Republican or supporting Republican politicians. It does say:

      Thompson helped gather signatures for the paid-sick-leave and minimum-wage-increase ballot initiative

      So I don’t think this is a leopards eating face scenario.

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        I don’t think it necessarily needs the victim to have voted for them - it’s more about the majority supporting the referendum and also the incompatible representatives. The LEPF party were elected and are doing what they do.

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      In the US votes don’t actually matter. The democratic and republican party work for corporate donations. So, if everyone votes for issue A, but corporations lobby against it, sometimes for as little as $10,000, then issue will not happen. What are you going to do? Sue? The judges also work for the corporations.

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      It depends on the state. Many states have no means of direct voter legislation. Some do, but the result is a new law, which can be repealed by the legislature as easily as anything else. Some states treat citizen ballot initiatives as more powerful than basic laws (eg, as an amendment to the state constitution) which are generally way harder for politicians to roll back.

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        Missouri is one of those states that does have direct voter legislation. Able to even get things put in to the state constitution.

        Trouble is our chucklefuck idiots will vote for very progressive things in state, but then go full stupid and keep voting for the R next to the name despite overturning our voting for direct legislation for the past decade.

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          He’s literally quoting the person in the article. Your weird little nitpicky beef is with the subject of the article not the author.

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              It’s journalism to accurately quote. What you want is for the author to editorialize about grammar.

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                Though it would be hilarious if the author titled the article:

                ‘A literal (sic) gut punch’: Missouri workers devastated by Republican repeal of paid sick leave

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          The least they can do be grammatically accurate.

          The irony of this sentence is great.

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              The irony is you fucking up your grammar while complaining about grammar fuck-ups. There is nothing for me to get over. I just thought it was funny.

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                I blame it on the editor. What, you don’t have one? Neither does the paper, apparently.

                The real answer is it’s a quote. It may be an inaccurate quote, but it’s still a quote. And people used to expect better from professionals, even professional lawmakers, like the ones in this story.

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        Um, that’s the metaphorical definition of “gut punch”, not the literal one. The literal definition of “gut punch” is, well you know, when you take a punch to the gut. It’s when an actual fist suddenly displaces your favorite abdominal organs. Houdini was killed by a literal gut punch (rip). As far as I know, metaphorical gut punches only killed Padme (rip). Two totally different definitions, and the whole point of the word “literally” is to convey the correct one.

        We literally can’t say that literally every phrase literally matching its dictionary definition (regardless if it’s the literal or metaphorical definition) can be literally prepended by the word “literally”, because that’s literally every phrase in the dictionary, literally (literally).

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        Modern dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive. They document how language is used, and if an error becomes common enough it will show up in the dictionary.

        For example, a lot of people say “alot” instead of “a lot”. If that happens enough, “alot” will be added to the dictionary.

        Enough people now mistakenly say “literally” when they mean “figuratively” that that misuse is now documented in the dictionary.

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    This is why progressives win when they’re not being undermined by corporate Democrats. Average people, including Republican voters, support this stuff by large majorities most of the time, even in the face of right wing propaganda.

    I don’t think they deserve this because they vote Republican. I think they deserve paid sick leave and a higher wage. We should look inward and ask how we’re failing them if they’re voting traitor lunatic.

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      It’s because we let the Democrats get away with being awful. Their goal is to be barely less evil than Republicans. If they had to actually fight for votes, we’d start to see results.

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        I don’t really follow this reasoning. How would they earn votes? What would be different than now?