• MyOpinion@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    It is hard to believe this moron has a chance of being president again. We are a doomed country.

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      I don’t know.

      I’m perplexed honestly.

      I live in italy and here too government took a steep turn to the right since last elections.

      It is like the most roborantly bamboozling idiocy someone from a stage can scream the more he gets applauded as the folks’ hero for speaking their unsung voices.

      On the other hand if you try to build an organic and critical dialogue you only get yawned away as utterly boring.

      I don’t think it is the ones screaming from their stages being the morons, well not the most moron at least, but instead they are those who give their votes, hard conquered from their ancestors who gift them with a life in a democracy, to these unambiguously unmistakable frauds, hiding in the obliviousness of the guilty conscience for their choice for the vote their own incapability of admitting their social self-inadequacy.

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        Lots of people are incredibly stupid. Many of those stupid people are also selfish and mean. It will always be easy to appeal to those people by blaming all their problems on others. Until science figures out a way to force on the empathy parts of our brains, we’ll go through these cycles of stupid people cheering on fascism.

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      Don’t let the media and talking heads convince you of anything.

      There are a great majority of people who want nothing to do with Trump, his Russian bootlicking or any of his other xenophobic hate.

      Just vote.

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        But the system is rigged so that a relatively small minority of morons can fuck shit up for everybody else. So yeah, guys, vote like your life depends on it because it literally does.

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          It’s not a relatively small minority. Trump has lost the popular vote every time he’s run, but not by huge margins. There are a lot of people that legitimately want Trump as a president, and many more that view him as the lesser of two evils. Don’t underestimate that and definitely don’t let down your guard.

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          And those of us who are voting and get elected will, and have been, continue to stop vote rigging, jerrymandering, and voter intimidation.

          Voting doesn’t end at the end of the presidential election. It involves your local elections too. Especially anything to do with your local educational system.

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        Exactly, and even if it might seem like your single vote doesn’t matter, you would be surprised. trump won in 2016 because disinformation on social media convinced people that their vote won’t change anything and Hillary will win anyway.

        Also vote at least every 2 years, it isn’t just the president that matters, the Congress is important too

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          Congress is more imortant than the president by the looks from an outsider.

          How is the house reps elected in the USA?

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            By district, which is all the voters in a smaller geographic area. House Reps are up for re election every 2 years. The intent of the House is to give more representatives to states with higher populations, so for example New York has 26 representatives while Kansas only has 4.

            However, instead of purely representing population, the number of House reps has been capped at 435, which weighs heavily in favor of less populated (Republican) states. If that cap was removed, Democrats would have a permanent lock on the House.

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        He’s the Republican nominee. What do you mean by letting “the media and talking heads convince you of anything?” Based on the previous two presidential elections, he’s got a 50/50 shot which says a lot about his opponent.

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          In what world does the number of candidates have anything to do with hundred of millions of peoples independent votes.

          This is just bad stats

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            In this world. He already won one election and came very close to winning the second back in 2020. Combine that with yet another weak-ass Dem candidate being the only other option and you have a recipe where it’s entirely possible for him to win again.

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              You’re comparing apples to oranges here. The circumstances have changed since 2020 and to ignore 4 years of hearings, charges, additional threats (much less vague now) and libertarian distain for trump is significantly different from what it was when he ran in 2016, and when he had that momentum in 2020 (Covid year, don’t forget)

              Donald Trump is going to bite the curb this election and I’ll bet you a bunch of people still vote for RFK.

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                Yeah this sounds a lot like pollsters claiming that Clinton had a 99% chance of winning in 2016.

                Biden seems to be going out of his way to alienate progressive voters and conservative voters will never vote for him. The ‘fence sitters’ who don’t pay attention to politics will simply see inflation and high prices and blame whomever is currently holding office due to all the conditioning and rhetoric they hear regarding it.

                Any election should see a guy like Trump defeated in a landslide, but that’s not the reality we live in and the guy running against him is doing such a poor job that Trump might actually win again.

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      Well Elon and Trump supposedly talk several times a month, so it’s probably Elon telling Trump to block non American EV sales here. But there’s really no telling what they’re talking about.

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      Elon will donate a few mil to his campaign, and Tesla will end up being the only company allowed to sell them.

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      Trump just confused things (Hailey, Pelosi, Biden, Obama etc). What he means is that he will ban European cars built in Mexico, but allow Tesla produced in China.

      I’m half serious, because that’s much more consistent with his policies in 2017-2020

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      This will eat 80% of Tesla profits, so he will probably ask Tesla to hurry up with the $56 billion he think he is owed.
      Tesla stock would plummet even faster than they have recently.

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    This is just naked corruption, making promises to the oil execs he’s been trying to curry favor with, right? Because apart from that - the thing that might put more money in Trump’s pocket - I can’t fathom what the point would be.

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      To “own da libz.”

      He’s pandering to the section of his base who all drive lifted coal rollin’ diesel trucks who all know that “everyone knows” electric vehicle owners are all avocado toast eating homosexuals who vote Democrat.

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      It’s a double win for him. Yes, he’s courting automakers and the oil and gas industry, so this gets him that, but a giant percentage of his base is simply against anything that liberals are for. Think of those idiots rolling coal. They’re literally making their cars as polluting as possible. What do they gain from it? The only thing it does, besides contributing to climate change, is upset liberals, and that’s the goal. Every one of those people will support this.

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      I think you’re overanalyzing things.

      He’s a liar and a con man and he’s just telling his supporters what they want to hear. Tomorrow, he’ll tell his other supporters that he’s going to do the exact opposite because that’s what they want to hear. There is no consistency or underlying ideal other than telling people what they want to hear so that he can get more support.

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    Biden can’t do anything because the president isn’t a king, but every stupid idea that Trump has is apparently going to happen.

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      Not going to happen, necessarily, but it’s brazen corruption and it shows you that he’ll do what he can to impede EVs.

      When someone tells you who they are, believe them. Trump has told us repeatedly he wants to be a right-wing dictator.

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        He can want things all he likes. Aren’t we ruled by law? Isn’t that why the Democrats can’t seem to do anything? Why is that law so fragile when conservatives want something and so adamantine when Democrats want something?

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    Donald Trump says random bullshit he cannot deliver on, that will appeal to his most rabid supporters.

    The Biden Tariffs have way more impact on total EVs sales than reducing the EV credit to $0. The tariff blocks $6k EVs from enter the US, the credits just knocks $7.5k off a $50k car.

    Like I get that us here in the United States are wary of Chinese things, but let’s all be honest, American car companies aren’t going to produce a sub $20k EV anytime soon. LiFePO₄ batteries have been a thing for some time now, the excuse the batteries are the main cost of the car is faux argument that US makers just aren’t ready to stop subsidizing their other vehicle platforms with EV sales.

    Trump’s arguments won’t do shit no matter which side of the aisle you sit. The thing killing wide adoption in the US of EVs is the US EV makers.

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    He’s begged the oil industry to come up with a $1b donation for his “campaign”, this is the reach around if they make it happen.

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    Can anyone give a legit reason as to why EVs are bad? Because all I’ve seen is “they don’t make cool BROOM BROOM noise” and “they’re bad for the environment” which is only true because of oil and gas companies bribing governments to restrict green energy infrastructure

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      theres only two temporary reasons. 1. the environmental reason is less the gas vs battery situation, but more the EVs are heavy, and the biggest pollutant are car tires. this tied with US consumer obsession of SUV sized vehicles dont help.

      the other is not all places have an equivalent “gas tax” which is used for road maintainance usually for EVs since, well they dont use gas.

      both fixable problems but can be considered a problem

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        Isn’t it also that sourcing the raw materials for the batteries results in a lot of pollution, and the charging is often provided by coal burning plants?

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          Isn’t it also that sourcing the raw materials

          This also leads to a shit-ton of attendant neocolonial shitfuckery - but nobody in the US really cares about that.

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          No one burns coal anymore!

          But seriously I saw one model by energy portfolio per US State, calculating how long you’d need to drive to make up for the additional emissions during construction

          • all had a threshold where the EV came out ahead, lifetime emissions
          • a couple states with cleaner power, had a threshold as low as two years typical driving, then it’s all gravy
          • West Virginia and Wyoming were the worst, with high reliance on coal for power generation. The threshold was 14 years, so an EV would still come out ahead if it lasted its expected lifetime (Teslas are supposedly good for 15 years, 250k miles before replacing battery)

          WV and WY are heavy red, rural, sparsely populated states, so not a good scenario for EVs anyway. But there’s also a point there about how heavily polluting they are, how the efforts if like 379M to reduce our impact on the environment are sabotaged by less than 1M owned by coal companies

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        the tire wear thing was a very warped interpretation of a study. Tire wear emits more particulate pollution than exhaust does. Pollution from exhaust is primarily gaseous.

        If my math is right, about 2.6 million tons worth of tires are sold in the US annually. While co2 emissions from vehicles amount to around 1.5 billion tons. Even completely vaporizing every tire sold in a year wouldnt come close to tailpipe emissions.

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        I didnt know tires where the biggest polluters, I’m all for getting rid of cars in general but the public transit sucks which makes me think it’s just wishful thinking

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    I know it has been said, but who in the ever loving fuck can hear this and still support this dumbshit?