Jimmy Dore is not a reliable source.
stuff like this is why i’m lowkey terrified of flying also this isn’t a shitpost
So you’d rather stick to the ground, where you can’t dive to avoid an oncoming vehicle?
Yeah, shitpost needs some better moderation. Shitpost has literally just become post whatever you want. And if that’s what it is, I guess that’s what it is, but the term “shitpost” to me had always been someone coming and derailing serious threads with nonsense opinions, unrelated pics, etc. So silly trolling.
This post is a picture of a tweet about a near mid-air collision. Unless the second plane was just fucking around, shitflying as they say, I don’t know that it qualifies for the low, low bar that is shitposting.
I can assure you some pants were shit on that flight
Put your fking seatbelts on. All the time.
I’m flying out of Burbank Monday 😃
It’s cool, this was their incident, so clock reset. Can’t happen twice in so short a span, no way!
keep your seatbelt on or that might be true more ways than one.
how that a shitpost tho
Anything about Jimmy Dore is a shitpost but which sub or whatever is this more suitable for?
Because everybody on the plane shit themselves.
This ain’t no shitpost.
You’re right, but I don’t think The Internet cares.
Remind us who cut funding to FAA?
This is Joe Biden s fault. I don’t mean he cut funding or anything like that, I mean he was literally flying the other plane. It was full of woke trans immigrants headed to Texas so Democrats can get more votes while simultaneously rigging the election.
Your response here is an excellent example of shitposting. You are the new moderator. Keep up the shitty work.
Obama was copilot? Smoking crack in the back in his tan suit? With Dijon mustard?
Smoking the mustard and putting crack on the hotdog.
hotdog
why you gotta bring hulk hogan’s skin into this?
Whatcha gonna do brother? WHATCHA GONNA DO WHEN THE COCAINE, GEAR, TANNING BEDS AND RACISM RUN WILD OVER YOU?!
hulk hogan was the real copilot all along.
Which time? In January or in Trump’s last term?
it was the one armed man! you gotta believe me!
Don’t planes have seatbelts? How did so many people manage to fly out of their seats?
Also friendly reminder to everybody that planes are still the safest mode of transportation by a significant margin
Planes are the safest form of transportation if you look at safety per km travelled. If you look at other metrics, like safety per trip or per travel time then they are less safe than busses or trains.
As with all statistics, you can make the numbers say what we you want. Planes can carry 500+ people, so an incident risks all 500 of those passengers; similar for rail, but not so much for the bus. And I think about bus and there’s two different kinds of buses, IMO, the inner city bus that’s on the road for hours, but doing few miles while making frequent stops. Not sure what a journey is then, whether it’s stop by stop or from start to finish. And there’s
So yeah, I dunno. If it’s your time it’s your time. I don’t think any of these means of travel are “unsafe,” whatever that means. But I’ll still have a couple of beers before I get on the plane, because I’m not afraid of flying, but having a couple beers beforehand makes it better.
Bus and Rail rules.
Motorcycles are for the young who don’t want to get old.
Last time I posted something about this, it was downvoted to oblivion. Glad to see that didn’t happen here. There are some statistical quirks that make this obvious once you think about it though.
Planes tend to make long trips, so anything measured on a per-km basis is going to be wildly diluted. Nobody is taking a plane to travel a few blocks. Something like a car will tend to make much shorter (but more frequent) trips, so the per-km stat won’t be diluted. But inversely, the per-trip stat will be diluted with cars, purely because they’re used much more often.
It sure feels like that margin has been shrinking in the last year or so.
So I don’t know how true it is (or isn’t). This wiki article gives a list of “all newsworthy” incidents since 2023. Got two (now three) this year. Five last year. Ten in 2023. But newsworthy is the key word. We have an incident like we did in DC, and in the immediate wake of it there were news reports just about anytime someone sneezed on an airplane (hyperbole).
I’ll tell you, my eye test and feelings agree with you, but I just don’t know how true it is. And it’s hard to avoid getting political, but there is a vested interest in certain news circles to paint a bleak picture (don’t take this wrong, I’m in favor of funding government agencies).
So yeah, fuck it, you know?
They have seatbelts, but for the most of the flight they are unused - you only need to buckle in during takeoff, landing, and if when encountering turbulence.
I guess there wasn’t enough time to get all the passengers to fasten their seatbelts before the collision?
I wonder if you’ve ever listened to the part of the safety briefing before every flight where they instruct you to keep the seatbelt fastened throughout the entire flight.
Judging by the number of clicks I hear when the seatbelt light turns off, I’d say most people don’t.
You should always have the belt on unless you are standing up for some reason. This story is exactly why.
Where I fly they also always advise to remain fastener regardless of no immediate warnigs. Exactly for situations like this - and others.
Yeah, but people are still going to be using the bathrooms and such, even if you assume everyone actually obeys the rules
because of a few exception cases this is never going to work
At any time, you can expect at least 2-6 people out of their seats if the fasten seatbelts sign isn’t on. But I don’t really care about that part, shit happens
Planes shouldn’t be dodging each other in the first place… That’s the actual problem here. I don’t blame the pilot either, they avoided a collision, so as far as I’m concerned they did what they had to do
The situation itself never should have happened
i dont even know what youre trying to state or argue. seatbelts should be worn by all seated passengers at all times to mitigate risk of injury in case something that shouldn’t happen does end up happening. obviously there are exceptions like when people need to piss and shit.
Of course, but it should be the 2-4 people who are actively going somewhere / in the bathroom, everyone else should have their seatbelt on.
And airplanes shouldn’t be in each other’s airspace
I don’t know what you’re trying to say, the airplanes nearly running into each other is the clear problem
Check out John Oliver’s take on air traffic control on LWT
I was a kid when Reagan fired all the striking air traffic controllers. It turns out it takes a long time to train them, so we haven’t recovered from that one incident. It also means all ATCs are overworked, still underpaid and using outdated hardware and methods.
Air travel was screwed even before Trump defunded the FAA.
Fair, but it has gotten very noticably worse based on Trump’s deregulation catching up on the aircrafts and the latest round of forcing out air traffic control
Also, I didn’t know you could just say “all pronouns”. I like that a lot, I’m really uncomfortable putting myself in boxes and that describes my preferences very succinctly
There are things you can control and things you can’t. I can’t keep the planes out of each other’s airspace, but I can keep my seat belt on.
That would be more insightful if I wasn’t a pilot…
Tap for spoiler
I’m not.
Yeah, that’ll keep you from getting slammed on the ceiling…in a situation that should never, ever happen. Which I’d over a midair collision, in which case you’re just screwed no matter what you do
I don’t blame the pilot either, they did their job properly. It was the military that failed to coordinate with the civilian air control tower, which also could have been avoided if the civilian tower had radar
What should you do? Demand better. Not think “I would have been fine, they must’ve been stupid”
You can’t protect against every freak event, what you can do is be one drop in the wave that demands competence from our government
And this is why I don’t fly anymore. It was never an enjoyable experience (except takeoff. Wee!!) and now it’s even less worth it.
Now I find myself having a depressed opinion on the lack of train options.
TCAS is working overtime to make up for the years of neglecting the FAA.
Sitting in an airport right now. Great.
Can I have your computer if you die?
I won’t be using them, ha.
Well? Does u/Agent641 get the computer?
Is gutting the federal government working yet? Is the swamp drained? Is the winning complete? Are my bigoted piece of shit nazi flag flying neighbors satisfied yet?
Exactly. I don’t say those things at work anymore because they are too many of them.
I can’t help wondering if they are remorseful.
One thing I know is people don’t like to be told. I stop correcting them. The more we point out their flaws, the more irrationally they will hold on to the false beliefs
They will instead irrationality believe that it’s working in their favour and be emboldened. They didn’t reach their position by being rational. Don’t let a bully tell you that you deserved it after he punches you in the face.
A fascinating theory I read is that MAGA is making a big deal out of Epstein because it provides an off-ramp that lets them save face.
Legit I’m like "bruh, you’re upset that your billionaire ‘grab em by the pussy’, ‘accidentally’ walking into the miss teen usa changing room, ‘I’d fuck my daughter if she wasn’t my daughter’ president is on a list of billionaire sexual predators? I’m glad that something finally looks like it might stick to him but c’mon guys.
It’s working for Russia
Uh, what? Something like 80 % of their economy is now government spending.
This is very dangerous. Time to remove regulations for collision warning systems on airplanes, so dangerous maneuvers like this don’t happen in the future
Tap for spoiler
/s
Yeah, just let the pilots fly Tony Hawk freestyle. Time to get creative!
TCAS warnings initially come up about 90 seconds before a potential collision, and a resolution advisory comes up about 60 seconds before a collision. A resolution advisory is obviously a serious situation, but it’s early enough that the climb or descent commands are really not anything crazy, not anything outside a normal climb or descent. No one should be hitting the ceiling if a tcas resolution is flown properly.
Once the flight smoothed out, Ulasewicz, who was traveling to Las Vegas, said the pilot made an announcement indicating the plane used software to avoid a midair collision.
Apparently it was right before catering service and well into AP flight. As a europoor I only master Airbus so I don’t know how a 737 is supposed to respond to a TA/RA.
Let’s wait for better sources than twitter and nbc.
The 737 won’t fly an RA on autopilot. We have to disconnect the autopilot and auto throttle and hand fly it. There’ll be a red box on the PFD that we just keep the pitch outside of, and we’ll be fine.
Ok, I just looked at the737-NG PFD RA and it looks different from what I know but I wasn’t aware that you had to hand fly it.
As the aircraft was climbing and with the yoke I guess it’s easy to push it a bit too hard and spill some coffee.
More like an aeronautical source with knowledge about how things works in the industry, like https://avherald.com/h?article=52aca268&opt=0 or https://simpleflying.com/southwest-airlines-boeing-737-700-dives-475-avoid-collision-burbank/
Do we have two pilots in here
And that’s why you always wear the searbelt
That’s right. That’s why I always wear mine. Even if I have to get up to go to the bathroom or grab something- I still wear it. Sometimes the flight attendants get mad when I cut it off, but I remind them it’s for safety and they usually get it.
