Put your fking seatbelts on. All the time.
stuff like this is why i’m lowkey terrified of flying also this isn’t a shitpost
I can assure you some pants were shit on that flight
Shitpantsing then
So you’d rather stick to the ground, where you can’t dive to avoid an oncoming vehicle?
Yeah, shitpost needs some better moderation. Shitpost has literally just become post whatever you want. And if that’s what it is, I guess that’s what it is, but the term “shitpost” to me had always been someone coming and derailing serious threads with nonsense opinions, unrelated pics, etc. So silly trolling.
This post is a picture of a tweet about a near mid-air collision. Unless the second plane was just fucking around, shitflying as they say, I don’t know that it qualifies for the low, low bar that is shitposting.
I’m flying out of Burbank Monday 😃
keep your seatbelt on or that might be true more ways than one.
It’s cool, this was their incident, so clock reset. Can’t happen twice in so short a span, no way!
Relevant news story about air traffic control.
I was hoping it’s this and it was!
Fuck Jimmy Dore, he turned against the queers. Last I saw a video of him interviewing with some bad-faith transmedicalist harassing people at pride acting all innocent like “I’m just asking questions” - his loud mouth was good as 2016 was going down but of course loudmouths don’t always know when to shut it.
That’s why I stopped watching him in 2017.
Yeah I’m not a fan but his being directly involved merits the exposure
Yeah Jimmy Dore fucks around with Alex Jones. They can both go to hell
It just blows me away how many people are just responding to this without addressing it…
I had no idea who this person was until @zelahdieliekeis@piefed.blahaj.zone’s comment prompted me to look into it. Calling out crap like this is helpful.
He’s always been a grifter
Visualization from flight data: https://youtu.be/VTAUMP2le3c
And that’s why you always wear the searbelt
That’s right. That’s why I always wear mine. Even if I have to get up to go to the bathroom or grab something- I still wear it. Sometimes the flight attendants get mad when I cut it off, but I remind them it’s for safety and they usually get it.
And the same thing happened in Minot, North Dakota not even a week ago.
TCAS warnings initially come up about 90 seconds before a potential collision, and a resolution advisory comes up about 60 seconds before a collision. A resolution advisory is obviously a serious situation, but it’s early enough that the climb or descent commands are really not anything crazy, not anything outside a normal climb or descent. No one should be hitting the ceiling if a tcas resolution is flown properly.
Once the flight smoothed out, Ulasewicz, who was traveling to Las Vegas, said the pilot made an announcement indicating the plane used software to avoid a midair collision.
Apparently it was right before catering service and well into AP flight. As a europoor I only master Airbus so I don’t know how a 737 is supposed to respond to a TA/RA.
Let’s wait for better sources than twitter and nbc.
More like an aeronautical source with knowledge about how things works in the industry, like https://avherald.com/h?article=52aca268&opt=0 or https://simpleflying.com/southwest-airlines-boeing-737-700-dives-475-avoid-collision-burbank/
The 737 won’t fly an RA on autopilot. We have to disconnect the autopilot and auto throttle and hand fly it. There’ll be a red box on the PFD that we just keep the pitch outside of, and we’ll be fine.
Ok, I just looked at the737-NG PFD RA and it looks different from what I know but I wasn’t aware that you had to hand fly it.
As the aircraft was climbing and with the yoke I guess it’s easy to push it a bit too hard and spill some coffee.
Do we have two pilots in here
This is very dangerous. Time to remove regulations for collision warning systems on airplanes, so dangerous maneuvers like this don’t happen in the future
Tap for spoiler
/s
Yeah, just let the pilots fly Tony Hawk freestyle. Time to get creative!
Is gutting the federal government working yet? Is the swamp drained? Is the winning complete? Are my bigoted piece of shit nazi flag flying neighbors satisfied yet?
It’s working for Russia
Uh, what? Something like 80 % of their economy is now government spending.
I meant getting Trump elected to sow discord and chaos in the US has allowed Russia to continue their war while facing fewer repercussions
Exactly. I don’t say those things at work anymore because they are too many of them.
I can’t help wondering if they are remorseful.
One thing I know is people don’t like to be told. I stop correcting them. The more we point out their flaws, the more irrationally they will hold on to the false beliefs
They will instead irrationality believe that it’s working in their favour and be emboldened. They didn’t reach their position by being rational. Don’t let a bully tell you that you deserved it after he punches you in the face.
A fascinating theory I read is that MAGA is making a big deal out of Epstein because it provides an off-ramp that lets them save face.
Legit I’m like "bruh, you’re upset that your billionaire ‘grab em by the pussy’, ‘accidentally’ walking into the miss teen usa changing room, ‘I’d fuck my daughter if she wasn’t my daughter’ president is on a list of billionaire sexual predators? I’m glad that something finally looks like it might stick to him but c’mon guys.
Sitting in an airport right now. Great.
Can I have your computer if you die?
I won’t be using them, ha.
Well? Does u/Agent641 get the computer?
I made it through. Maybe next time.
TCAS is working overtime to make up for the years of neglecting the FAA.
And this is why I don’t fly anymore. It was never an enjoyable experience (except takeoff. Wee!!) and now it’s even less worth it.
Now I find myself having a depressed opinion on the lack of train options.
Finally, the freedom to have sick plane crashes thanks to deregulation 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅💥💥💥
Just to put this into perspective, here’s a visualization of the flight data. The two aircraft were never on a collision course. They slightly violated a 5-mile separation requirement: their closest point of approach was 4.85 miles. The pilot did need to respond to the TCAS alert, but that alert was very conservative.
These conservative warnings exist for a reason, though. That being hundreds of lives at stake. What I think would be more interesting is to hear how often these types of events occurred before and after the layoffs at the FAA
Agreed. The point of a conservative warning is to give plenty of time and opportunity to react without bouncing your passengers off the ceiling.
Fault for the loss of separation seems to be on the controllers. Not all separation incidents are the same, though. This one seems to be rather minor. By my estimation, the encroachment was a maximum of 264 yards, and the duration of that encroachment (without pilot or controller intervention) would have been less than 10 seconds. Too tight, yes. It needs addressed so it doesn’t become a habitual violation that could lead to more severe encroachment by these controllers. But there was no real danger of bodily harm from this encroachment.
Fault for an overly aggressive maneuver is on the pilot. There was a risk of injury from that overly aggressive response. The pilot’s actions elevated a minor, no-risk event to one that risked serious injury to the passengers and crew. But, he was following instructions from a device designed to improve aviation safety, and the nature of the warnings from that device, an over-response is much safer than an under-response. He has to trust his instruments, and his instruments (erroneously) told him to push the nose down, quickly, lest he hit another plane.
TCAS is designed and intended to reduce risk and prevent harm. In this specific incident, though, it seems like the TCAS-RA actually increased the risk of harm, by calling for an immediate action that wasn’t actually necessary to prevent harm. Is there a way to improve TCAS?
I, too, would like to know how often TCAS incidents were recorded before and after the layoffs. Those layoffs definitely harmed aviation safety. But if someone were injured in this incident, I don’t think I could point the finger at the controllers or lack thereof. This particular incident seems to suggest a shortcoming in the TCAS system.
Very thoughtful and informed reply. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Well it cost money and held yous back.
/s …Justin Case.
