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      One lesson to take is don’t take viral infections lightly. Don’t exercise while recovering from a cold, covid, or the flu. Viral infections can weaken your heart temporarily and exercising in that state can damage your heart.

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          Yeah, that’s what I’m saying: if you want to reduce the risk of just dropping dead, make sure you properly recover from viral infections, which are a major reason of that happening.

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    As someone who regularly eats 1million+ Scoville chilies and sauces, these chips ain’t nothing to fuck with. It gave me the absolute worst stomach pains I’ve ever had, it was like the flu but worse. There’s gotta be something in those chips that at a level that’s not normal for peppers.

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      I’ve been getting those stomach pains lately trying to pursue the amount of heat I like in my food. I finally decided I just needed to take a break from spicy food to reset my tolerance.

      Though, I was watching the series Superhot, and it seems that the stomach pains are pretty commonly associated with eating a lot of those types of super hot foods. So, I’m guessing it’s just from the sheer amount of capsaicin on those chips. It’s pretty much just capsaicin extract at that point.

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        Maybe, but I eat a lot of stuff that are mostly pure capsaicin and none of them mess up my stomach like that. And with this chip the heat in my mouth wasn’t as bad, but my stomach pain was much worse. That makes me think something else is responsible.

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      What? Maybe they have inconsistent batches, but I did it with friends and it was fine. Hot, obviously, but nothing that crazy. I was pressured into it and didn’t play to win, so I went straight for bread and juice for a bit and it was fine. Two of my competitive friends were chilling, the spice went away after a few minutes for them, to the point that the challenge of seeing who can go longest without drinking anything was not even about the heat, but just who could go the longest without drinking in general/who got thirsty the normal way first

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        I wouldn’t be surprised. To be clear though, the heat I felt in my mouth and face wasn’t really all that much. Just north of a habanero maybe. It was pretty much the damage it did to my insides that got me.

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          That’s fair, that was their experience too actually now that I think about it. Maybe all the bread I ate neutralized it, cause I had no issues after the heat passed

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    “Died of high chili consumption”? Is this actual English? Those words don’t seem to fit together that way. I feel like if this were a real thing, Thailand wouldn’t exist.

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      I like the implication that a heart defect can be an acute condition that is unrelated and simultaneous to death resulting from eating too much capsacin.

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      You mean like “died of multiple mosquite bites” doesn’t make sense because people live in countries with a lot of mosquitos?

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      How hot Thai food is, is somewhat overblown. It’s the hottest regularly served food in the world, but it’s not hotter than some people enjoy. Their “spicy” comes from red and green chili’s, ginger, peppercorn, and garlic. By far, the hottest of that group is the red chili’s, but those are around 200,000 scoville. I can eat those and not break a sweat.

      The one chip challenge was a lot hotter than any Thai food. Hotter than any of the other challenge or worlds hottest “x” that I’ve tried (friends and stuff gift me these types of things a lot). I’ve bought a lot of sauces that are hotter than it, and it still didn’t have me wishing for something to drink. My mouth just doesn’t react to capsaicin as much as the average persons.

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      It seems like a more accurate title would be “died of high capsaicin consumption due to a heart defect”.

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        Capsaicin is a crystalline structure. Pure capsaicin is 16 million scoville units, and is a crystal. I highly doubt there’s any food that anyone is eating that is 14 million scoville units per bite. That would require 89% of the food to be crystalline.

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          It’s a powder flavoring applied on top of a chip.

          People don’t eat huge chunks of salt any more than they are eating chunks of capsaicin.

          If we can salt chips, we can probably capsaicinize them too.

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            You’re right, but scoville units are an absolute measurement of the concentration of capsaicin. In order to have something be 14 million scoville units it would have to be comprised of 87.5% capsaicin. 16 million scoville units is the measurement of pure capsaicin. It’s simple math.

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          If I’m not mistaken, pure capsaicin isn’t even that spicy, it only becomes spicy when dissolved in something like alcohol and then taken.

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          Mexican food has nothing on Thai food when it comes to spice. I like spicy food, even Thai-spicy food, but I have only once made the mistake of asking them to make it as spicy as they could. I swear that little old lady was hiding a huge grin as she marched that order back to the kitchen. Then they only came out to refill my water once.

          It was fucking delicious, but I think I started to hallucinate.

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            I knew Thai cuisine was hot, I guess the phrasing was confusing to me. That shit does get hot, along with some Indian dishes. There’s a couple of biryani places that have had me sweating like Michael Jackson at at 10th birthday party

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              There’s no empirical evidence that MJ sexually abused any children. He was also acquitted. Why does this rumor persist? Because some guy who has changed his story multiple times decided after MJ died that he was abused, despite previous evidence that he wasn’t abused and that his parents tried to blackmail MJ?

              I mean it’s a little quip so you probably didn’t think much of it. But he suffered enough while alive, is it really necessary to continue to assassinate his character despite him being dead and acquitted?

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                I held that line for decades. I honestly thought he had a super fucked up childhood and just turned into a weird manchild with fucked up boundaries. But in the last few years since his death I feel like the balance of evidence is weighing heavily against him. Of course he’s not around to defend himself any more, either. I’m done sticking up for him. Either way it’s a tragic tale.

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            I wish they’d do that for me. I’m a pasty white guy who is a spice fiend. I fucking love spicy food, and I have some sauces I regularly use that have Scorpion Peppers, Carolina Reapers, and Ghost Peppers.

            Thai food is great, but when I go to thai restaraunts, they see me order the spicy option, I swear to god they give me a quarter of the spice that they’d give someone who doesn’t boil in sunlight.

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            Ever had Tibetan food? Living in the Himalayas makes you pretty expert at spicy. Apparently they reduce the spiciness for Westerners. They didn’t reduce it enough.

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              Never tried it, but I’ll see if I can find any. Honestly never heard of it being a thing even in a college town, but I’ll look around Detroit.

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                I actually tried it first in a college town- Bloomington, Indiana. It has a Tibetan community because the brother of the Dalai Lama lived there (he’s dead now) along with his family and others came too because it’s a pretty friendly town for a large number of Buddhists to move to since it’s pretty hippie-friendly as it is.

                That said, they sold the original Tibetan restaurant and the menu has been revised to the American palate. Originally, the hottest version of Thukpa Ngopa (a fried noodles with beef recipe) was something else. There was also another restaurant owned by a Tibetan immigrant that didn’t have any Tibetan food, but it had a Tibetan-style dish called Himalayan Potatoes that would make you cry like a baby.

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            I’ve heard that Thai restaurants have extra spicy recipes for non-Thai people trying to act tough by ordering the spiciest thing.

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      There is another country that would not exist if high Chile consumption was a real thing.

      This is real title gore, the sentence structure barely makes sense too. Unwinding the journalistic word order and even correcting for the missing word “report” and the chilli misspelling, it basically says

      Autopsy was conducted on a teen who had a tortilla, and it[s report] says: “He died of high chil[li] consumption and had a heart defect.”

      The logic is technically correct but the following bizzare statements are suggested (not implied):

      • If you are a teen and eat a tortilla, a doctor may decide you need an autopsy. Prevention first, amirite?
      • The cause of death of the teen in question was high chilli consumption, which caused a heart defect, and subsequently the autopsy, either of which alone would be enough to kill him.
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        So bad it’s good. Personally, I like the description text on the video that makes it seem like the teen who was autopsied is speaking:

        An autopsy of a Massachusetts teen who died after participating in a spicy tortilla chip challenge says he died from eating a lot of chile pepper extract, and 14-old Harris Wolobah had a congenital heart defect.

        Editorially, it’s a hilarious article. Though, respect to journalists out there. This might be a situation of, “Johnson, I need that tortilla chip death article on my desk in 5 minutes”.

        edit: Per the correction in the article, I guess AP style guidelines dictate ‘chile’ instead of ‘chili’. It looks super weird to me!

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    So he died of a heart defect, exacerbated by high capsaicin intake.

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    I am an adult, and I do like spicy food, but I’d like to throw in that this chip is fine. It’s spicy, but not crazy. It was hot for a few minutes and then not hot.

    I’m more surprised that the article affirms that large amounts of capsaicin can be physically damaging in some way. I’ve never heard of that before.

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      I know of at least two currywurst places in Germany where they offer crazy hot sauces. The more intense ones are 18+ and I think at least one of the places makes you sign that you won’t sue them understand the risk of eating food that spicy.

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    Those things are awful. They use charcoal in them and it tastes like snorting campfire ashes.

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    Large doses of capsaicin can increase how the heart squeezes, putting extra pressure on the artery, noted Dr. Syed Haider, a cardiologist at MedStar Washington Hospital Center.

    Is it the nerves or the muscles of the heart that have this reaction to capsaicin? And does it only target the heart?

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      I don’t think it’s a direct reaction. I think it’s much more likely that capsaicin induces stress and that messes with the heart.

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    As a chili pepper lover myself I absolutely do not get this garbage trope of treating chili pepper consumption as some kind of contest. The idea is to add heat to your food - not prove your pathetic “manliness.”

    In my opinion, anything above Habanero is just pointless masochism for no good reason at all.

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      I think ghost peppers have fun uses and the Carolina reaper almonds from diamond are actually delicious and not that spicy (guessing they use very little). I agree that the mega potent stuff is better used for spicing up a 3 lb pot of chili.

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        Wendy’s uses a lil tiny bit of ghost pepper in their ghost pepper ranch sauce and it’s actually a great flavor with some kick. Absolutely nowhere near as spicy as the actual pepper, of course. I’d put it maybe slightly above jalapeño?

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      idk sometimes it’s just fun to eat something really hot, especially with friends

      my dad and i did the 1 chip thing a few years back and we got a fun time and a funnier video out of it. not much more to it really

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      “As a chili pepper lover myself I absolutely do not get this garbage trope of treating chili pepper consumption as some kind of contest. The idea is to add heat to your food - not prove your pathetic “manliness.””

      I agree and so does Aunty Donna:

      Warning, this content contains some Australian language

      https://youtu.be/oTjbwg48JuE?si=X4ujFAsv8oelEGmO&t=47

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      Eh. Habanero tastes like ass. I’ve had spicier peppers with better flavor. And plenty of people, including myself, occasionally enjoy something hotter. I have a decent tolerance for spice, so I can dial things up and still enjoy it.

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        Habanero tastes like ass.

        Most of the ones I’ve had were pretty crap… but, rarely, it’s actually possible to find Habanero that tastes the way Habanero should. They’re pretty good.

        Next time I find proper ones, I’m planting them.

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          Well that’s true, you can get a lot of varieties of peppers.

          Can’t believe that comment garnered so many down votes tho. Some habanero lovers in the comments were very upset

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          You may not get the same traits as the parent plant, that you’re looking for, if you grow chillies from seed

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      In my opinion, anything above Habanero is just pointless masochism for no good reason at all.

      Idk man I agree otherwise, but tolerances rise. And different chilis taste different. Habanero has a nice, sweet taste, and naga yolokia has a bit sharper taste.

      So it very much depends.

      I don’t try to make “hot” food, but wanting a bit of heat in every meal has lead to my tolerances rising and Habanero just not cutting it for proper heat. (I think the heat is good when you almost feel it in your nipples.)

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          When the food is so spicy that at first you start sweating a bit on your face and then the heat slowly spreads from your face. So at the point when it’s enough to reach your nipples, the spiciness of the dish is just right.

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              Oh this goal is something I decided after having experienced it.

              Don’t know if there’s logic to it, but it’s what I usually aim for. (Unless I’m busy the next day, because that usually requires an extended session on the porcelain throne the following day.)

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      You clearly never had Beef Rendang. It is a Indonesian/Malay dish, which is a lot like a coconut curry. It is unbelievably spicy purely looking at it and you start to sweat. But it tastes amazing and I firmly believe it wouldn’t taste the same without that level of heat. It is an incredibly intense experience and I guess literally not for those weak of heart. But if you ever get the chance I highly suggest you at least taste it is unbelievably tasty.

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        If you mean Chili write Chili or Chilli, Chile is a country. Also why did AP feel they needed to change it, when the other spellings are equally correct, and more common.

        That’s moronic.
        Chile as a spice is also near impossible to search for, you will get exclusively results that are spelled chilli or chili. So why opt for a spelling that in every way is worse?

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          From early contact in Central America between Spanish explorers and Aztec folk, local spicy peppers — primarily the jalapeño type — were noted as “chiles”. Other similar fruits were also tagged as “chiles” — a term which had the indigenous sense “hot-to-the-taste.”

          ‘Chile’ has been used for a lot longer than ‘chili’. If anyone is spelling it wrong, it is you, not them.