Just one more example of why voting for Trump would be a big step backwards for the USA. Even if you think Biden is bad, Trump would be far worse.
Going on YouTube taught me that a huge chunk of Americans don’t just support Trump and people like him, they adore him sand encourage and cheer his awful behavior
He’s got a cult of personality to the tune of about 50 million. He just needs to convince another 20 or so to show up (or 20 of the opposition to sit home) to get the electors he needs for the presidency.
And if you don’t like the notion of voting for either “Bad” or “Worse” then you should move because that’s how elections work here.
I moved here from reddit because I feel like every time you try to open your mouth there about how important it is to vote, you get absolutely mobbed by so-called leftists who “just can’t reconcile their values with voting for biden” as if they are helping the world and their brave stance is going to help people.
Seriously, between this issue and the “bear VS men” debate, I just can’t anymore, I can’t deal with people, I have no idea what super-villain has irradiated the population with a density-ray, but people right now seem almost surreally ignorant, like I always knew it was bad, but I’m beginning to finally see after four and a half decades how bad it really is out there. And it’s far, far worse than any of us ever imagined.
I had a terse argument with someone in RL the other day who didn’t know what lava was. Like, the molten rock that comes out of volcanos? They never in their lives questioned what a volcano was, and just assumed all the “red goo” that comes out just has to get cleaned up after it cools, and that the government should try to plug volcanoes. It turned into an argument because he didn’t believe my “mainstream science” explanation.
It’s okay to be dumb out there, dumb is actually good, dumb can be fixed. What’s terrifying me for our future is the doubling-down on ignorance, the weird pride in “choosing your own truths.”
Trump may get elected again and this fact alone should terrify all of us. Not just for what Trump will do in office, but what it means for our population that there are enough people who have chosen an entirely separate set of axioms and truths about the world, and just fukkin discard actual, verifiable facts. Now we have AI exploding into the world and distorting things worse. We’re in a lot of trouble.
You know what terrifies me? Even if I vote for “Bad” it just takes a few thousand people in some other state to completely negate me doing the right thing and we get “Worse.” And then we’re just supposed to accept the results. Because them’s the rules. Oh well…
It’s a stupid system of government and I don’t blame people for checking out. I wish I could just ignore it, too.
This feels like semantics. There is “bad”, and there is an option that is “better”. I don’t know why folks feel like they need to use “bad” and “worse”, other than to build pessimism. The things people are upset about can’t easily fixed by presidents anyway - we need a large base of like minded representatives to do things like housing policy and universal healthcare and education reform and climate change. It’s a lot easier to break things than to improve peoples lives, which is why it’s critical not to elect people intent on breaking things.
You’ve hit the nail on the spot with the pride thing - it’s a weird trend! Maybe as humans evolve some part of brains are turning into “red goo”
If Joe Biden hasn’t done anything, then why does Trump have so many things to revoke and reverse?
Feel like almost every day there’s a headline about something new that Trump promised to reverse (for the worse).
If Joe Biden hasn’t done anything, then why does Trump have so many things to revoke and reverse?
A lot of it is posturing.
Trump claims that Joe Biden made the military Woke and bimbofied all the generals. All the universities teach are the Perverted Arts. And the TikToks are turning your kids Chinese.
But when he’s President, he promises to fix all of that on Day One.
Not saying Biden has done nothing, but if you haven’t noticed yet, the GOP standard play is to take the most lukewarm democrat positions, pretend it’s the end of western civilization, and then promise things will be fixed once he’s elected.
Ie, CRT, Wokeness, DEI, whatever “monster of the week” they pick as an enemy. They always swap it around.
Because getting people riled up in culture wars gets their mind off of real issues. It’s the ol street magician trick of getting people to look at their right hand while the left hand is stealing your watch.
CRT
The liberals think they can push cathode ray tubes on the rest of us?? I’m fine with them using sinful processing components in their own homes, but this would be violating my rights as an american!
Well said, thank you.
whatever “monster of the week” they pick as an enemy
Right wing outrage farmers have been doing exactly that for my enture life.
D&D was the biggest evil ever, back in my teenage years.
And before that it was the Satanic Panic.
There’s always something they want us to be scared of.
For a while gay marriage was going to be the end of civilization!
To be fair, nothing Trump says reflects reality.
Well there’s that minor detail . . .
This week they were even against energy efficient applicances.
They’re against anything that the Democrats want. If the Democrats decided to fix the pothole out front, Republicans would rally in favor of potholes’ right to damage your car.
Biden hasn’t done well addressing the core issues driving the voters he needs–ie young voters and POC voters.
Trump is doing his best to mobilize his supporters, as turnout is going to determine who wins in November. I’m not sure this was a wise move for him as it could energize his opposition as well. We shall see.
Vote these two pigs out
Someone missed the point
He just has to say something all the time. Cant talk about anything real so he verbally fantasizes
Hahahahah bitch you gonna die soon, there’s only so much stimulants a 77 year old cheeseburger addict can take before that decrepit clogged heart of yours goes boom.
And then we get a much younger, much more vigorous, but still MAGA, vice president.
Just gotta take it one dick at a time.
Don’t underestimate the magic of presidential healthcare.
Nixon was the last president to die before his nineties.
If Trump were a regular person like the rest of us, he’d likely already be dead, but whatever voodoo those presidential doctors perform, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him zombie along for another twenty years.
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
This is a quote by Martin Niemöller, a German theologian who spent eight years in concentration camps towards the end of WW2 and who afterwards publicly spoke out a about the dangers of complacency in the face of fascism.
First they helped fund a literal genocide, and I did not speak out—
Because it wasn’t my realtives being killed by US bombs and I was afraid that standing up and doing the right thing would have costs for me personally.
What protections does said bill introduce that u don’t have as a regular citizen?
“Day one!!!” I’m not even LGBTQ, but that’s the Republican Nominee saying his main priority is to hurt minorities. For no gain, just spite. If you know someone with “Conservative” tendencies, you owe it to everyone in this country to talk to them about this…
They have conservative tendencies because they want other people to be harmed by face-eating leopards.
They are chicken shit cowards who are too comfortable going with the flow. Also, brain dead.
“Talk” as in “hold a pillow over their face until they stop moving”?
That’s one from of communication, yes.
This man shouldn’t even still be considered a candidate…
My son is trans. Please vote for Joe Biden so he can have the protections he needs and I don’t have to stay up at night worrying about him.
I am very good friends with a trans women who I worked with for a number of years. She is seriously considering leaving the US because of this bullshit. So yes, please vote for Biden.
Also, I hope you son is doing well! It’s a hell of a process.
Most people are unable to flee the U.S. Most countries will not simply accept someone without meeting specific criteria.
I wouldn’t be shocked, though, if at least one or two countries would accept trans asylum seekers.
I just hope it’d be more like trans krakoa and less like trans genosha
My best friend is trans and he’s considering doing the same. It’s so bullshit that he has to leave an entire life behind because the conservatwats are so hateful.
It’s slightly comforting to think that after they’ve forced every group out of the country with their hatred and vitriol, they’ll eventually start eating themselves.
But not before they had their feast on everyone who cant/wont leave
I want to leave the US but I honestly don’t know how. I have no idea if I have any skills that’d let me get hired by a non-us company, which is kinda what’s necessary to immigrate to another country, right?
You can leave the US, open entrepreneurship in the other country, and have a remote contract between this legal entity and a US company.
Level of strictness and skill depends on the country. Start researching so you know what’s needed.
there’s also the idea that you go to a college, possibly a community college, and then transfer to an out of country college for the degree, which I have heard is a great way to be able to live in a country, acclimate, and work from there
Friendly reminder that everyone who believes in accelerationist BS is privileged af.
Looking at you, Hexbear… and Lemmy.ml people who deleted my comments yesterday calling out Hexbear as tankies
Sadly, the behavior isn’t limited to certain instances though
Hey not everyone from ml is a dipshit. Some of us just stumbled into ml because it was a stable and popular instance when we joined.
Hexbear on the other hand? I don’t think you would just accidentally join that place, at least not without getting banned the first time you say something against their pro fascist hive mind.
I just had another comment on ml deleted today for saying some people on ml are bootlickers. Becoming less and less of a fan lately
“accelerationist”? Pardon my ignorance, but what’s that?
Someone who thinks we should have the worst right now and get it over with.
The idea that we cannot have real change without some for of revolution, so we should make things go to their extreme, and cause some kind of cultural revolution.
I see. I understand that as a path, but that seems like the “option of last resort” to me, and these guys want to make it the proposed one?
Fake communists. Hexbears. It’s just Anarchy, but the “fuck everything” type of anarchy.
I understand the frustration and desire to burn everything down, but I just think that’s lazy and won’t end up working at all.
Those are just nihilist. Actual anarchist generally aren’t the fuck shit up kind. Those are generally angsty young teens with very little understanding.
You are however 100% right about lemmy.ml. hexbear and Lemmygrad. They are all Marxist leninist. Which was an ill-conceived transitory authoritarian style anti communist government that was supposed to facilitate the build up to and transition to communism. But not communist itself. Which has failed everywhere it’s ever been tried. Much like capitalism if you go by it’s stated goals and ideals.
They love to blather on and on and on about communism and how great and wonderful it would be. And it would be. But everything they do is actually in opposition to it so they are very much fake/ performatory communists.
I hate that “Marxism-Leninism” refers to the brand of communism and socialism that Stalin practiced. It should be called “Stalinism”. From the little I know about Marx and Lenin is that Marx had some good ideas and while Lenin had some bad policies, he also had a genuine interest in trying to do what was best for Russia. Meanwhile Stalin let millions starve.
Also Marxist-Leninism is doomed to fail imo. I believe that in order for socialism to truly succeed, you must ensure that the world’s leading countries practice socialism; or at least ensure that your country is capable of fulfilling every step in the supply chain for any given good for now and the future, either by itself or via allies. Attempting to do it on your own like Marxist-Leninism suggests, is a road to failure because capitalism will attempt to starve you (and likely succeed at doing so).
Capitalism is inherently opposed to socialism because the true end game of capitalism is for an individual, or group of individuals, to own everything. However, they can’t own everything if a country’s culture is opposed to that form of selfishness. Additionally, the capitalist’s peasants might get funny ideas if they see a country based on mutual goodwill succeeding. Stalin played right into the hands of capitalists. He deserves to have the inherently flawed and doomed-to-fail ideology named after him.
Fuck, I barely got any sleep last night and I can’t tell if I’m being coherent or not. Additionally, now I have a conspiracy theory that this was all intentional. Tying a form of socialism that was oppressive and doomed to fail to Marx and Lenin was an intentional move by capitalists to conflate Stalin’s garbage with a legitimate desire and attempt to create a better world. By doing so, you create the belief that even Lenin and Marx supported oppression and that oppression is therefore inherently a part of socialism and communism. As such, by calling themselves Marxist-Leninists, they are falling into a trap created by capitalists to defame such ideologies like communism and socialism.
Also I wanted to make a comment about how capitalism is like economic heroin or something: extremely enticing and addictive; but I’ve got no clue where to put it.
To be politely pedantic, while I agree generally, in the defense of nihilists, not all of them want to actively burn it down. They just don’t care and nothing matters. It’s the unique combination of anger and anti-establishment that makes the type of person we are talking about. And if they care enough to burn it down, I’d argue they can’t be a nihilist by definition.
No, it’s people who think accelerating the country into a hyper capitalist fascist hellhole will lead to the accelerated collapse of the capitalist system. Then revolution will bring the promised land to them. Of course they don’t realize that collapse isn’t necessarily guaranteed.
I’ve been a trans woman for 10 years and an immigrant for much longer. This is one of the worst existential threats I’ve faced. I have had to sit down and discuss serious contingency plans with my partner if he wins because there is no chance I’m sticking around.
I just want to exist dammit. I’m tired of being persecuted for simply existing.
People don’t realize (and some people just outright refuse to admit) that we are in the middle of a genocide of trans people. Trump will make that so much worse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_genocide#United_States
I wish your son, my daughter’s best friend who is trans, and all the other trans people in this country the best life. That won’t happen if Trump gets in.
But they are both the same
- some asshole
It’s all just so dumb and people being drawn into this are just sad and not very bright. Just a boring recipe.
Can he stay awake long enough to revoke everything he says he’ll do on day 1?
Don’t worry, the bigots who are backing him won’t let home forget.
Yes because he only falls asleep when other people are talking. He LOVES listening to himself
He’ll just be blindly signing what’s in front of him.
Well it’s not like he can read it…
Next question… you think a sharpie has enough ink?
It will be a cocaine-fueled frenzy.
There was a time when people just murdered people like this.
Sure, they were decried and had their days in court—
But you know what we didn’t have? Hitler presidents.
Now look what we’ve got. No “corrective measures”, no fear, and fuckbags getting elected who think (quite by mistake) that they’re gods.
It’s time to remind golden turd brain exactly how and why this country was founded, why it even e it’s in the first place.
Who exactly are you thinking of? Most presidents/candidates that got murdered were killed by reactionaries.
You asked and answered the question in the same sentence, proving that you are only here in bad faith, to troll.
Are you getting paid for this?
That’s the beauty of it. The right has created an insatiable monster. They don’t pay them, they feed them fear and watch them grow fat. They wait for them to try to overthrow the government like they tried on January 6th and when the treason fails they disavow all knowledge. No money needs to change hands anymore, they just make sure they are well fed.
I can’t for the life of me figure out how that comment triggered such a bizarre response from you.
Yep, was tempted to continue the conversion but their other reply is even more unhinged. I was trying to figure out which event they were talking about, but I guess I’ll never find out.
I’m wondering the same thing about a few of their other replies to questions
Wow, that’s a huge wall of text to show you didn’t understand what I was saying. There’s never been a case of left wing vigilantes successfully killing a fascist or fascist adjacent president.
Lincoln got killed because he freed the slaves. Kennedy got killed by the CIA (probably) because he didn’t want to keep letting them do coups everywhere.
Meanwhile nobody murdered Andrew Jackson or any of the other right wing bastards, and those that came close (like Hinckley) didn’t do it for ideology.
So I’m asking, when was this mythical time in US history where you were killing fascists (domestically)?
I’m not talking about Lincoln here— but go ahead and make excuses for fascists
I don’t get it. Well I do. But I’ve yet to have a satisfactory response to the following :
Intersex people exist. That is, people born with both sexual organs. Therefore by their existence we know that there is a blurred line between genders and those people exist there. Even if I go along with them that transgender behavior is a mental illness (it’s not, this is just a thought experiment), what exactly do they propose we do about intersex individuals who are literally neither male nor female?
Well do I have exactly the brand new 1h37min queer video essay for you!
TL;DW: The modern concept of gender as separate from sex was not (originally) a progressive move. It was conservatives’ reaction to the medical discoveries of the nebulous nature of biological sex, to justify imposing the gender binary on trans people and especially intersex children.
Conservatives claim to care a lot about protecting trans kids from “radical decisions”, but the places that enact legislation to prevent teenagers from using puberty blockers are the same places that still allow and encourage mutilating surgeries on intersex babies.
It is not an accident. It is ideologically consistent with conservatives’ drive to impose their religious and cultural vision of the binary gender as a completely fixed universal truth, and they’ll use extreme violence to ensure it remains binary, fixed and universal.They just want yet another group to stick their boots into. The reasons don’t matter at all.
Exactly. Being able to blame their problems on ‘other people’ is the basis of their identity.
You’ll never get one, because it’s not a logical position. It’s just hateful.
They just think about intersex as disabled individuals.
Or at the rate they’re going, as subhuman filth to be sent to extermination camps.
To them once one of either sex has been chosen then the baby is a boy or a girl and that’s it.
Yeah, that is scary. Chosen by whom? I’d imagine if anyone reading this paused and thought, “If I was that baby, who would I want to make that choice?” I think everyone would pick themselves. Men reading this would wanna pick male and women reading this would wanna pick female.
Anyway it’s fun to think about. But I’m done thinking.
I’m really stoned and ranty. Bed time.
Thanks for the chat!
Oh, they include it in the bills that ban trans care: continue forcing “corrective” surgery on intersex people. That kind of surgery on the genitals of children is always exempted from the trans care bans.
Using conservative logic, should the babies, made by God, not be left as He made them?
It also seems cruel to mutilate a child born between genders before they have the opportunity to come of age and know who they are. I’ve heard multiple accounts of intersex people, who the doctor removed one of their sexual organs then become suicidal when they reach adulthood because they essentially feel like a castrated man, or the female equivalent.
Just imagine you were born and had your sexual organs removed as baby, how would you feel? Pause and imagine living life castrated. Does being conservative simply require a lack of imagination about these things? It seems so obvious.
conservative logic
These two words do not go together. There is your problem.
Circumcisioning infants is pretty fucked up in my book too.
Saw myself naked on DMT in a mirror. The nerves remember that shit.
Imagine, first thing you coming to the world and your parents have part of you cut off. We treat infants this way everyday in the U.S.
Yet, zero moral panic from the Right. Because this is about stoking the fires of prejudice. And not saving children or whatever other bullshit the latest demogogue uses to target transpeople.
They don’t actually care about “the children” or people in general and the concept of nuance is non-existent in their worldview.
They literally don’t care how many folks are hurt by these laws. Ethics? They’ve never heard the word before. Its sad, scary and infuriating.
But hey, CAiTLyn JeNner thinks Trump is the most LGBTQ friendly president. That’s settles any debate, y’all.
