Mamdani, the presumptive Democratic nominee to be the next mayor of New York and a self-identified democratic socialist, said Sunday billionaires contribute to inequality.
  • Fives@discuss.online
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    2 months ago

    The super-wealthy are a cancer on society, and just like cancer, they suck up all of the resources while killing the patient.

    • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Nah, the mainstream media will just stop reporting on him, the social media algorithms will be tweaked to hide him, and when it comes to the election, people will go “Ugh, who is that Muslim sounding guy? I’m voting for Barron Trump.”

    • Fedizen@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Mossad, Maga fascists, NYPD, All the billionaires all gonna be chomping at the bit to kill this guy to set an example.

      • Naevermix@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Popular American politician starts saying radical but good things tends to end in a certain way.

          • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
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            2 months ago

            “Hey, we may have assassinated non-white people in the past for saying communist things, but we’ve totally changed now!”

              • Ænima@feddit.onlineEnglish
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                2 months ago

                Umm, it’s not a moral failing to highlight historical facts. A historian of WWII Nazism is not, in fact, a Nazi. There is real historical precedence for the idea that radical ideas for social change has been met with smears and, if unsuccessful, real violence against the leader(s) of that social change.

                Whether his ideas are successful, or not, the powers that run the world will stop at nothing to prevent their loss of power. I fail to see how pointing out that fact, and hoping this time is different while acknowledging that history, is somehow some moral failing of the OP of this comment chain.

              • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
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                2 months ago

                You have Donald Trump as a president and masked goons snatching people off the streets.

                You’re right it’s changing, and it’s not for the better.

          • Lemminary@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            Two US Democratic senators were just assassinated by a MAGAt impersonating a cop who carried with him a hit list of 50 other senators he was going to kill. This is not outside the realm of possibilities in this day and age.

  • kreskin@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Order to eliminate all billionaires confirmed! To the Priuses, we ride!

    *lift sword out window

    *slowly pull away from curb with loud prius humming noise

    /s I dont advicate violence and I agree billionaire level accrual of wealth shouldnt happen. When it does it should be taxed like FDR did it. We’ve never done so well as a country than when we had real progressive taxation. When Maga people talk about making america great agin, thats the era they are thinking about, when a single worker could support a whole family and buy a house and raise kids with a normal job, and a normals job was respected.

  • k0e3@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    It’s inspiring to see Americans are still fighting the good fight.

  • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Before the oligarchs say this is “violence”.

    This can be done peacefully. Just enact a law that taxes everything above like 999 million (or a fewer amount, to be debated on), and if you don’t comply, that’s tax evasion and you go to jail. Complelete peaceful (other than the tax-person we’d have to send to arrest the rich for non-complance), comply and everyone is happy.

    Voila, no more billionaires, and that wealth redistributed will let everyone become a millionaire. Everyone is happy, maybe the 1% cries that they now have a few less yachts and mansions, but like, they can still enjoy that one house, same as everyone else would also have.

    • Derpenheim@lemmy.zip
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      2 months ago

      You know what? I don’t want it peaceful. They’ve stomped on people there entire lives, forced others to rely on social programs, dig through trash, and work to the bone.

      I want a comeuppance, I want blood, and I want it to be that of every fucking billionaires’ head rolling off the guillotine

      • Cherry@piefed.socialEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Agree. They had a choice. They shunned taxes and played at fake philanthropy. They have now dropped that and started playing like they are god. They are fragile mortals that need a reminder of revolution, I would like to see it done the French way but any way should do.

      • matlag@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        And you’ll have it. They have enough money to pay an army and you bet they will use that to stop you from taking their wealth. Understand that they have rationalized their immense wealth to the point where they trully believe they deserve it. You can see it sometimes in how they consider themselves hard working geniuses, or decide God somewhat chose them to be ridiculously rich.

        Yes, they will resort to violence (but not themselves, of course). But they won’t need to get their hands too dirty.

        They’ll fund campaigns, they’ll own law enforcements and will wield it against the people, meanwhile they’ll buy propaganda to convince as many people as they can it’s all for the best. That’s easy to predict because they already do exactly that.

        Violent repression of demonstrations, violence and intimidation against activists and journalists. Owning of all the mainstream medias and a large share of the less mainstream ones. All of that is slowly normalized.

      • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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        2 months ago

        You have to ask yourself: Is fulfilling that desire for retribution worth the lives of the millions of vulnerable people who would be killed due to lack of medical treatment, potable water, food, etc?

        • Derpenheim@lemmy.zip
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          2 months ago

          ???

          You mean the ones who are already sick and dying from those exact things, caused by the greed of the aforementioned?

    • OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works
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      2 months ago

      But could this really be done? As far as I’ve understood, billionaires typically don’t have a billion liquidized and ready for spending. Rather, their value is distributed in ownership of several companies. How would the 100% taxes on ownership in companies be applied?

      Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see it work, but I feel like it’s a lot more complicated than stated. And if a good way of applying those taxes would be introduced, I’m sure the billionaires would either find new ways to make the money untouchable or personally move to a country with looser tax laws.

      • ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        That’s what conservatives always claim. Most of them won’t move and even if they do, good riddance. Simply tax their wealth beforehand.

        • OddMinus1@sh.itjust.works
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          2 months ago

          My experience is from Norway where the taxes on the rich is balancing on a line. A lot of rich Norwegians have already moved to Switzerland to avoid annual taxes on their wealth. I would expect to see something similar if USA introduced reasonable taxes, unfortunately.

      • simsalabim@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        As far as I’ve understood, billionaires typically don’t have a billion liquidized and ready for spending. Rather, their value is distributed in ownership of several companies. How would the 100% taxes on ownership in companies be applied?

        If you can leverage assets to apply for a loan to buy twitter, then you can levarage assets to pay your taxes.

    • huppakee@feddit.nl
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      2 months ago

      Voila, no more billionaires

      … in the country with the tax. They’ll just live somewhere else.

      • Synapse@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        People have to stop believing that wealthy people will leave instantly once they begin getting taxed. This is just a lie.

        They are wealthy because of their assets and connections. They have houses, appartements, offices and factories. They have a network of influencer in the country they live in, in the city they live in ! They have a big family, kids. It’s actually harder for these people to move out than you and I.

        The money is already escaping. They use any loopholes (fiscal optimization they call it) to pay much lower tax than anyone else proportionally.

        They won’t leave ! Let the tax begin ! The loopholes have to be eliminated so that they cannot convert their wealth to escape tax artificially.

        • huppakee@feddit.nl
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          2 months ago

          I’m getting downvoted like i i care they’d leave, just that it’s not gonna bring tax revenue.

          • reddit_sux@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            They are not doing it even today. If they are businessmen, they are not going to leave their businesses just because they are being taxed.

  • dastanktal@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Well now they’re definitely got to pull all the stuff out to try and prevent him from winning. I mean they already were but now they’re going to try even harder I guess?

    Regardless I’m totally here for it