Despite Bill Barr’s repeatedly voicing concerns about Donald Trump, he has now said he will vote for him again this November

Bill Barr has claimed Donald Trump often suggested executing his political rivals during heated moments of his four-year tenure in the White House.

Former White House communications director Alyssa Farah Griffin told The View back in December that Mr Trump once called for a staff member to be put to death for leaking a story about the then-president going down to a bunker during Black Lives Matter protests in summer 2020.

Former Trump administration attorney general Mr Barr was asked about the claims during an interview on CNN last week.

    • AppleTea@lemmy.zip
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      reminds me of Nixon getting blackout drunk and ordering nuclear strikes on Vietnam. Apparently the SS just ignored him whenever it happened.

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    and yet when pressed, “the Biden administration’s liberal agenda” is worse than anything - ANYTHING - Trump ever did.

    fucking shill.

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      The worst part about this, besides all the other parts, is that the Biden administration is defending against this, like “Nuh-uh, We don’t even have a liberal agenda!”

      I wish Biden was the progressive that conservatives pretend he is.

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      I vote for the party that wants to protect abortion rights. It would take quite a lot for me to vote for any anti-abortion Republican. I think Trump-level disrespect for democracy from the hypothetical Democrat would be enough to change my vote, but I’m not sure some people I know would vote for the Republican even then. Would expecting Republicans to vote for Biden be a double standard in this context?

      (What this doesn’t explain is why Trump was so overwhelmingly popular in the primaries.)

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        What has given you the impression that Dems actually want to protect abortion rights though? They want women’s bodily autonomy to be under threat because it drives donations and voting for their corporate fat-sacks.

        Democrats would be utterly at a loss if they actually legislated abortion rights. It’s why the Obama admin suddenly wasn’t in the mood when they got a super majority.

        What solid abortion rights exist right now have been achieved by every day citizens getting it put on as ballot initiatives and forcing it into their state constitutions themselves.

        Vote Dem, sure, but don’t labor under the illusion they want to put an end to the abortion issue for good.

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          You mean that 60 days when they got healthcare reform passed?

          Abortion wasn’t their top priority at the time because there was other shit to worry about.

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            “Healthcare reform”

            Are you talking about the republican crafted bill that forced everyone to buy private insurance and if they couldn’t afford it get billed $700-$1000? That “healthcare reform”?

            The one, solitary good thing that came out of the Trump presidency was him repealing that mandate.

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          Well, I would have said something similar about Republicans but then the dog actually caught the car, so to speak, and they managed to get Roe v. Wade overturned despite the fact that doing that is now predictably hurting them at the polls.

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          That law, had it been passed, would have been repealed the moment the R’s had the majority during Trump’s first two years. It would have been pointless, especially since abortion was then legal.

          As you essentially noted, it requires a constitutional amendment to make it harder to overturn, and you know plenty of states would not sign off on that.

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              There was also literally no cost to repealing it. They would have done so, right before they passed the huge tax cuts for the rich. There would have been no “try”; it would have been repealed about 2 minutes after everyone was sworn in.

              Repealing a law is as easy as passing a law.

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                I see, so Democrats shouldn’t try to legislate bodily autonomy because the Republicans will just undo it if they get a majority one day.

                Fucking idiotic.

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                  Okay I’ve tried to be civil, but you’re obviously not doing the same. My point, since you seem unable to grasp it, is that it even if they had it would have been repealed and nothing would be different now. Is that so difficult to understand?

                  I’m blocking you. I’m looking for real conversation, not people intentionally missing the point so they can stay angry at whatever boogeyman.

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        My dad used to say, and this was back in the Bush era, that the wort Democrat was better than the best Republican, and I still can’t argue with that.

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          the [worst] Democrat [is] better than the best Republican

          That’s generally true, but not in the hypothetical. I’d honestly vote for Mitt Romney before I’d vote for hypothetical Democrat-Ticket Trump.

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          My dad used to say “There’s too many Mexicans coming around my shop, I have to shoo them away with a rake.” I loved him for a lot of reasons, but that was not one.

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        Would expecting Republicans to vote for Biden be a double standard in this context?

        Maybe if they could articulate what it was they disliked about Biden without using some generic “open borders” nonsense.

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    “Trump’s as bad as people are afraid he is, but I could never compromise my values so much that I’d vote for a centre right neoliberal.”

    Anyone who feels this way is an actual nazi

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      Whatever you do, never question what J. Edgar Hoover’s COINTELPRO division was up to during the serial murder of black civil rights leaders in the 1960s. Don’t question how similar disappearances and slayings occurred during Iraq War protests, the BLM protests, and appear to be happening again during the Palestine protests. Ignore the LA Sheriff’s Gangs that operate independently of city government and the mass privatization of police forces in Detroit, Miami, and Atlanta. Don’t google who Allen Dulles was or what he spent his career doing (and definitely don’t question where he was or what he was doing in November of 1963). Don’t ask who Bill Barr’s dad is or question why he hired a a very young, very unqualified Jeffrey Epstein to teach at one of the most elite private schools in the country.

      Don’t ask what the 1994 Crime Bill had to do with the rise in mass incarceration. Don’t ask who sponsored that bill. Don’t question who wrote large sections of the Patriot Act and lobbied for their passage even before 9/11. Don’t think about PRISM or question how the US Congress responded to its outing.

      Just fixate on the Big Cheeto who wants to be back in the White House.

      Our status as a fascist nation has nothing to do with our long history of police brutality and state surveillance. It has nothing to do with the structure of business or the anti-democratic judicial and senatorial systems that decide our laws. It certainly has nothing to do with the Military Industrial Complex and the continuous need for cheap labor at home and abroad.

      Its just this one weird guy who might return to the White House. Everything else is fine.

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        Everything that keeps happening and everything that has happened keeps making me feel satisfied with my choice to leave. I just wish it felt safe to look away.

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        You know, if Trump was an elaborate psyop to distract us from the REAL nefarious shit, it would actually help the world make more sense.

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          He’s like the giant cold sore that lets us know we’ve got herpes.

          Except we keep insisting if we just put a band-aid on it, we won’t have herpes.

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      Those Germans who would do anything, be anything, join anything to stop Bolshevism had, in the end, to be Nazis. And Nazism did stop Bolshevism. How it stopped Bolshevism, with what means and what consequences, did not matter—not enough, at least, to alienate them. None of its shortcomings, mild or hideous, none of its contradictions, small or calamitous, ever swayed them. To them, then and now, Nazism kept its promise.

      -They Thought They Were Free, The Germans 1933-45

      Fascism is always a right-wing reactionary movement against leftists.

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        Fascism is always a right-wing reactionary movement against leftists.

        Except, in the U.S. our fascists don’t have any real Bolsheviks to stop, so they have to pretend that the center-right conservatives are actually Bolsheviks.

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        We say individuals are evil, amoral, and are the cause of suffering but no mention given to the organizations which enabled the suffering. There is no social reason to abhor Bolshevism but there is a profit driven motive. Bolshevism, and Communism that it became, are scary for businesses and people who see money as the only way to live.

        Preventing businesses from having political power will see “We the People” more accurately represented.

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      Now, now don’t be hasty. Maybe he meant to say, “Trump often suggested executing rivals in heated outbursts… and I really like that in a president.” Not hypocritical at all really. Just a, you know, personal choice or something.

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      The problem is that all the people inside the right-wing media bubble don’t know he’s as bad as people are afraid he is. Because they’re regularly lied to.

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        I feel like I’ve said this before, but maybe letting right wing billionaires own all the major media outlets was a bit of an oopsie.

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          what I would not give to have 70’s style regulation again, of course getting rid of citizens united would be bigger but owe man I hate the direct we have taken since the 80’s

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              yup. it reminds me a bit of nixon. growing up I understood he was bad but boy how rabidly upset he would make folks older than I. I did not get it but then I learned more and more about his actions and understood over time. Reagan same but experienced it. One thing is you don’t even know the real bad stuff till its to late. People still don’t seem to understand iran contra or the october surprise. effed up. now we just had trump. can you imagine the stuff we don’t know yet. ugh.

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              He’s also the one who set the precedent in 1986 of support in the Israel-Iran proxy conflict that we’re protesting today.

              He did that after supplying Iran with arms in the Iran-Contra scandal.

              Prior to that, he removed foreign aid from Israel, and then supplied military aid under the express agreement that they use it to invade Lebanon.

              He put this shit pot on the stove and started stirring.

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            “Fun” fact: Those two things are connected! Without the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine by Reagan’s FCC in 1987, the group called Citizens United would likely not have been able to form in 1988, as they would have been required to provide opposing viewpoints when they expressed their terrible views on national tv or radio networks.

            Additional fun fact: Rush Limbaugh’s nationally syndicated radio show (which began in 1988) also would not have been possible without the repeal of the fairness doctrine.

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              And Limbaugh opened the door for Hannity, Alex Jones, and the rest of the Faux News screaming liars.

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              unholy hannah. thanks. I did not know this connection. Once again finding out more about a politician make me hate them more.

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        They’re a lost cause - but apathetic left wing voters need to hear that message.

        Our democracy may simply end if Trump is reelected.

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      I wonder, could it be a method for him to tell right wingers how awful Trump is and not get dismissed outright. It is probably helping more people hear the truth than would have.

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        Nah, he keeps telling the media how awful Trump is because they keep paying him and he keeps saying he’ll vote for him again either in the hopes of being paid by the next administration, to keep from being executed by it or both.

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        But for a group of people who always will put party ahead of nation, what will it actually do?

        Edited to add Barr’s quote:

        And in my mind, I will vote the Republican ticket. I will support the Republican ticket. I think the real danger to the country – the real danger to democracy, as I say – is the progressive agenda.

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        That goes against his long and storied history of being in the tank for the Republican party. He convinced Bush Sr to pardon the few people who were convicted in the Iran-Contra scandal to execute a cover-up, he slow-walked and misrepresented the findings of Mueller’s report on Russian interference, and he’s always ascribed to the unitary executive theory. If his history and career is any indication, I suspect he talked about it because he legitimately thinks the president should be able to execute his political rivals (as long as they have an elephant pin on their lapel, naturally).

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    So what? I threaten to kill people all the time, when I’m talking to myself. He just has friends who he feels really comfortable around.

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    He should have publicly called for Trump to be removed under Amendment 25 while he was still a Cabinet officer.

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    Dude, fuck Bill Barr and Chris Sinunu and Mitch McConnell and all these pathetic hypocrites.

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      Well the rest of the quote was that he will always vote Trump because he doesn’t believe in regulating automobiles

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        “While the dismantling of the United States would be a shame for sure, and nobody wants it, I cannot stand for this constant slippery slope towards 4 cylinder engines and EVs”

        I can hear it in his dumb voice