• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    Oh sure, but if you look a little beyond the surface you’d see people who also just want to keep their jobs, just like you.

    It’s easy to vilify those you don’t like, it’s hard to really look at them and see that they aren’t that different from us

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      Except they have access to everyone’s salaries so they have greater bargaining power than we do. Not exactly the same as the average employee at a company.

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        May be so, but they’re still human, love their kids, have problems just like you and me, and most importantly, they too can lose their job. I can just as well say that since I oversee all tech in the company that I work for thst, technically, if I wanted, I could see everyone’s salary too. Doesn’t make me better or worse or different than you.

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      Their job is to enforce the whims of the ownership class under threat of violence. They protect the company at all costs in exchange for power over other working class people and a bigger paycheck. Fuck them, if they really are decent people then they should quit and get a job that actually benefits society.

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        Yeah that’s funny. Most people think they’re good at their job while in my experience,.moet are mediocre at best.

        Not saying you’re mediocre, but let’s just say that I imagine me being less good at my job than I think, even with the raving reviews I got.

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      Okay but wanting to keep your job as a nurse at a charity clinic and wanting to keep your job as an IDF colonel are not the same.

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        You’re comparing an HR employee to a military officer? That’s apples and oranges right there.

        But I’ll bite. Most military officers and enlisted are people too, you know. They got kids, they love and hate people too. Hell, even terrorists. Ones terrorist is another person’s liberation hero. I’m sure most IDF officers too mat have misgivings about the war they fight but when you’re in a military you don’t get to complain, especially during a war.

        It’s easy to vilify people, it’s hard to see that each and everyone of us is a human being with hopes and fears.

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      My HR team has been doing layoffs inside their own department. It’s kind of interesting to watch.

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      Shit take. People that take HR jobs are that different than us. It’s like cops, the job only attracts the exact type of person that shouldn’t be doing that job.

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        Some time ago, I met an HR person at my job. She wasn’t actually part of the workplace HR team, rather, she was more like a classmate of mine, but she had worked as HR in the past and wanted to continue to do so in the future. She was kind and polite, so I never had any beef with her, but she consistently had the shittiest, most inhumane takes on how to manage and interact with people I had seen in a while lol.

        Meeting her made me arrive at the conclusion that you just said. Empathetic people that get into HR with the idea of helping make the world a better place would eventually resign or, at least, be very ineffective as HR. The only people capable of staying in HR for a long time are sociopaths who don’t mind lying and being obtuse in job offers, and ruining someone’s life so their boss can squeeze a couple of extra cents. The profession itself only serves to make companies more ruthless and adds nothing of value to the world.

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        I’ve never met a HR person I liked. The best I could feel twords then was quiet toleration… Now Ops folks, those people busy their asses to keep the ship from sinking.

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    My boss and HR lady were very solemn when I was laid off from my last job RIGHT BEFORE COVID started. I was BEAMING. HR lady said I was the most unconventional layoff she’s ever done. I thanked her and shook her hand. It was the best thing that happened to me in a long time.

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      I’m confused. Were you happy because the job sucked or because you were laid off before Covid?

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        My job was totally fine, byt my partner had been laid off right before me. I was happy to be able to spend a bunch of time with them—I didn’t even know about COVID yet. Then a couple months later, everything shut down. I didn’t work for years. It was incredible.

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          I am assuming that you had enough saved up in the bank hence you were happy about the impromptu 2 years vacation with severance granted to you?

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            Absolutely! Got a buttload of severance, then my country started paying heaps of COVID jobless bonus money for like a year and a half. It worked out perfectly (though I did feel terrible for taking advantage of that while some of my closest friends had to go into work and stuff)

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                I’m not sure of many countries where the average person can take years off of work in a row and be fine financially. Do you know of any countries like this?

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    We would like to shift our structure to a more flexible model of management to accommodate for unforeseen market fluctuations.

    So I am fired?

    As I said we want to reschedule you indefinitely as our potential support asset. This pool is very prestigious and privileged position to be in.

    So will I get paid?

    As much as we would like to, truly, It is legally impossible for us to provide you with any funds outside of a legally binding contract which needs to be terminated in order to shift to a better state of financial buoyancy.

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    “You’re not being sacked, no, we are releasing you into a world of opportunity!” Yes, a friend of mine actually heard that one a while ago when he was ‘let go’. 🤨

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    If past.lives are real then every hr employee across the globe had a past life as some middle manag3mentnpaper.pusher making the Holocaust possible.

    If you work in hr there’s about a 99℅ you are irredeemably evil.

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      If you work in hr there’s about a 99℅ you are irredeemably evil.

      That’s a funny way to spell “If you are a billionaire”.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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      Actually…

      Most people doing their job quite literally are just doing their job, trying to make it to the end of the day. Believe me, even people in hr love their children, worry about the future, worry about their job, have hopes, fears and dreams and have to contend with shitty bosses.

      Can you imagine one day the CEO coming in with a list of people that YOU have to fire, that YOU have to face, that will cry and yell in front of you as if you’re the one who did this to them?

      Most people are pretty okay, actually, and not remotely evil. They might do bad things because they’re pressured or feel pressured, most people don’t enjoy firing others.

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      Bahaha you’re only people? I am an authentic Talent, managed by our beloved Talent Managers. Yeah they won’t be any raise or bonus this year, the shareholders got all the benefits, but I’m a Talent. Wow this feels great.

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    Resource. It’s in the name. Dehumanization.

    You’d be shocked the depravity people will sink to once others are no longer human in their eyes.

    Empathy is not weakness, do not let our current economic system fool you. Nothing lasts forever.

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    Got the boot from a company.

    Here’s the BS I had to deal with: -I was dealing with health issues when I was working. -My former coworker actively tried to make my condition worse. -I reported them for this to management & HR -Got fired, as they had friends in HR. -They filled out the unemployment paperwork wrong 4 times. -The unemployment case was so messed up, the local government got involved.

    The positives. -Company deamed at fault and heavily scolded by the government. -I got paid more on unemployment than when working. -I make ~25% more at my new job.

    That was ~2 years ago.

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      -I got paid more on unemployment than when working.

      How did that one happen? That’s the unbelievable part to me - unemployment is basically capped to a percentage (usually 50%) of what you were making when working, at least where I live.

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        Unemployment counts the last 5 quarters. If you get fired before a quarter ends it doesn’t count it as a full quarter.

        I left a different job making a lot more because of my health. I knew the manager at this new job and he saw I wanted a position that I was already in. Less hours, about the same pay.

        When I was unemployed it counted the vacation I was reimbursed upon my leave from the previous company and the massive amount of overtime I was making from the previous job. If they would have fired me 4 days later, I would have been in the new quarter and gotten a lot less.

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      If there was one life experience I wish I can give to people, it’s that experience of being fired because of restructuring.

      Imagine doing your job well. Imagine even loving your work and your coworkers. Then suddenly, a behind-the-scenes convo led to your department being dissolved and you’re out of a job. You didn’t do anything wrong. You were just in it’s way.

      Welcome to life.

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        I was a casualty of this mid-career. Made redundant in the middle of the covid pandemic. I managed to scrape things together and called a few contacts who helped me out and put in a good word for me. Helped me secure employment. I’m in a better environment now than I was back then. But it was a terrifying experience being made redundant at a snap of a finger.

        Why would you wish this one anyone?

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        I work at a big company. We have tons and tons of problems to go solve that are getting little attention in addition to having a lot of redundant and/or “what would you say you do here” type positions. Most of this happens by accident, but it’s nearly impossible to unwind and redeploy those teams. My guess is that the big reasons why is because of leadership not wanting to look bad - a mix of “why did you staff this to begin with?” and “why did you let this go on for so long?” When these groups are eventually found during a reorg they tend to be let go vs redeployed, which makes it even harder for the remaining groups to do anything. The cycle is truly silly.

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        The only responsible thing for the working class to do is to form and maintain stronger unions and unite with all workers.

        I’d prefer teaching this kind of thing.

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          Decades ago working as an office drone I mentioned to a co-worker that every business should have a union and he laughed. Because trying to form a union is an uphill nightmare and there’s always people happy to replace you when you inevitably get fired without cause (right to work BS) or for a clearly BS reason but it’s legally covered (“your position is no longer necessary” or some other such slimy nonsense.)