HR personnel are such creeps. It really does attract a certain type.
If past.lives are real then every hr employee across the globe had a past life as some middle manag3mentnpaper.pusher making the Holocaust possible.
If you work in hr there’s about a 99℅ you are irredeemably evil.
Actually…
Most people doing their job quite literally are just doing their job, trying to make it to the end of the day. Believe me, even people in hr love their children, worry about the future, worry about their job, have hopes, fears and dreams and have to contend with shitty bosses.
Can you imagine one day the CEO coming in with a list of people that YOU have to fire, that YOU have to face, that will cry and yell in front of you as if you’re the one who did this to them?
Most people are pretty okay, actually, and not remotely evil. They might do bad things because they’re pressured or feel pressured, most people don’t enjoy firing others.
The HR person who works with my team actually said “I actually really like firing people. Well, that didn’t sound right… but I do like making these changes.”
ha ha ha… ok. Cool.
Sociopath much?
Just following orders.
Hannah Arendt would like a word with you, and you’ll be crushed when it’s over
If you work in hr there’s about a 99℅ you are irredeemably evil.
That’s a funny way to spell “If you are a billionaire”.
People Team. It’s called People Team now.
Bahaha you’re only people? I am an authentic Talent, managed by our beloved Talent Managers. Yeah they won’t be any raise or bonus this year, the shareholders got all the benefits, but I’m a Talent. Wow this feels great.
Ours is “People Experience” now
Department of Human Capital
Felt good the day I told HR they didnt need to invest any more resources to “help” me. I was done and the boss clearly didnt care about having me around so I told them to fire me.
Up in the air was ahead of its time
I’m going through it right now. Got a good review, but was demoted, but they didn’t expect me to actually stay, so they are forcing me to quit
How recent was this? Did they change your hours or your duties significantly or show favoritism in how they treated another employee in your pre-existing role?
People who actually do quit in that situation may have a claim for constructive dismissal.
Forget about the third-party assessment, how do you think you were doing?
That sucks.
All I can say is polish up the ol’ resume and start searching while you have the security of a (shitty)job
As someone who was recently laid off, I can identify. I didn’t see it immediately, but was able to travel to Arizona to catch some spring training baseball with my son and brother. That was all I needed to bounce back. On Monday I start a new job at a healthier company making 25% more money.
Your son is your brother ? Alabama ?
I’m sure you’re being obtuse but just to clarify they are two distinct humans and we are not from Alabama.
I’m just there for a cheap joke. Hope it didn’t hurt ! (BTW I have already been given the boot by HR. Can’t correctly express my feeling about them.)
Oh sure, but if you look a little beyond the surface you’d see people who also just want to keep their jobs, just like you.
It’s easy to vilify those you don’t like, it’s hard to really look at them and see that they aren’t that different from us
My HR team has been doing layoffs inside their own department. It’s kind of interesting to watch.
Okay but wanting to keep your job as a nurse at a charity clinic and wanting to keep your job as an IDF colonel are not the same.
You’re comparing an HR employee to a military officer? That’s apples and oranges right there.
But I’ll bite. Most military officers and enlisted are people too, you know. They got kids, they love and hate people too. Hell, even terrorists. Ones terrorist is another person’s liberation hero. I’m sure most IDF officers too mat have misgivings about the war they fight but when you’re in a military you don’t get to complain, especially during a war.
It’s easy to vilify people, it’s hard to see that each and everyone of us is a human being with hopes and fears.
Their job is to enforce the whims of the ownership class under threat of violence. They protect the company at all costs in exchange for power over other working class people and a bigger paycheck. Fuck them, if they really are decent people then they should quit and get a job that actually benefits society.
Shit take. People that take HR jobs are that different than us. It’s like cops, the job only attracts the exact type of person that shouldn’t be doing that job.
Some time ago, I met an HR person at my job. She wasn’t actually part of the workplace HR team, rather, she was more like a classmate of mine, but she had worked as HR in the past and wanted to continue to do so in the future. She was kind and polite, so I never had any beef with her, but she consistently had the shittiest, most inhumane takes on how to manage and interact with people I had seen in a while lol.
Meeting her made me arrive at the conclusion that you just said. Empathetic people that get into HR with the idea of helping make the world a better place would eventually resign or, at least, be very ineffective as HR. The only people capable of staying in HR for a long time are sociopaths who don’t mind lying and being obtuse in job offers, and ruining someone’s life so their boss can squeeze a couple of extra cents. The profession itself only serves to make companies more ruthless and adds nothing of value to the world.
I’ve never met a HR person I liked. The best I could feel twords then was quiet toleration… Now Ops folks, those people busy their asses to keep the ship from sinking.
Except they have access to everyone’s salaries so they have greater bargaining power than we do. Not exactly the same as the average employee at a company.
May be so, but they’re still human, love their kids, have problems just like you and me, and most importantly, they too can lose their job. I can just as well say that since I oversee all tech in the company that I work for thst, technically, if I wanted, I could see everyone’s salary too. Doesn’t make me better or worse or different than you.
Yeah, but I’m good at my job and they aren’t.
Yeah that’s funny. Most people think they’re good at their job while in my experience,.moet are mediocre at best.
Not saying you’re mediocre, but let’s just say that I imagine me being less good at my job than I think, even with the raving reviews I got.
They’re so damn incompetent at most of the places I’ve worked. It’s astonishing
Based
Got the boot from a company.
Here’s the BS I had to deal with: -I was dealing with health issues when I was working. -My former coworker actively tried to make my condition worse. -I reported them for this to management & HR -Got fired, as they had friends in HR. -They filled out the unemployment paperwork wrong 4 times. -The unemployment case was so messed up, the local government got involved.
The positives. -Company deamed at fault and heavily scolded by the government. -I got paid more on unemployment than when working. -I make ~25% more at my new job.
That was ~2 years ago.
Not saying this is not possible, but your story does seem a bit simple.
Feel free to ask away.
Unlikely but bound to happen eventually? Sure
-I got paid more on unemployment than when working.
How did that one happen? That’s the unbelievable part to me - unemployment is basically capped to a percentage (usually 50%) of what you were making when working, at least where I live.
It happens - especially when company gets in trouble.
Unemployment counts the last 5 quarters. If you get fired before a quarter ends it doesn’t count it as a full quarter.
I left a different job making a lot more because of my health. I knew the manager at this new job and he saw I wanted a position that I was already in. Less hours, about the same pay.
When I was unemployed it counted the vacation I was reimbursed upon my leave from the previous company and the massive amount of overtime I was making from the previous job. If they would have fired me 4 days later, I would have been in the new quarter and gotten a lot less.
Fire me? Fire deez nuts in your mouth HAHAHAAAAAAA gottem
You should try that when you get fired or “let go”
I’m triggered
Good for you
I was joking because I got fired last year by 3 smiling people and it was terrible
“You’re not being sacked, no, we are releasing you into a world of opportunity!” Yes, a friend of mine actually heard that one a while ago when he was ‘let go’. 🤨
Jesus Christ. Layoffs suck, but can they at least try to be normal human beings about it, and not some kind of incarnation of the LinkedIn feed?
Thats the equivlent of saying. “You dont half to worry anymore” And getting let out to pasture. Thats shitty as all get out tho
Seriously. I can handle a lot of awful, but that shit makes my blood boil.
If it’s Amazon that’s laying you off, they’ll just shut down your email, Slack, and intranet access before you can start work in the morning, and let you figure the rest out yourself.
Lmao
The standard procedure is to close access during the meeting but that’s new level of efficiency
Haha for real? Efficient!
That’s pretty standard in tech. Most companies have this automated from either the layoffs convo or the email being sent.
Back in 2012 I was laid off in a very short meeting with my boss and HR. This was at 10am when everyone was in meetings, so I left a quiet office and entered the stairwell to leave. My badge got me on, but I was unable to leave. I spent 20 mins awkwardly waiting for someone to either pass by or notice so that I could be escorted out of the building.
I’m at Amazon now, and some of the stories of people losing access are horrible. Some layoffs coincided with RTO, with some people moving across the country (NYC to Seattle) only to be told once their life was packed up and being shipped away that, actually, there wouldn’t be a job to move to. There were also stories of IT failures for people, and people basically breaking down in tears at losing their job, when it was only email downtime.
I’m about to end employee 8675309’s whole career*.
8675309 about to become null
I got your number on the wall
Poor Jenny.
Would you prefer them be weeping? No really I wonder which people like getting bad news from more, happy or sad people.
I would rather they self-flagellate throughout the entire process.
Better than self flatulating
I’ve already got that part covered
I prefer them to not be enjoying it, nor taking it lightly that I’m losing my income and I’ll be struggling over the next series of months to make ends meet.
I mean, I’d like them to act like they feel bad. I think that’s what most people are after. Some semblance of “this is wrong and I’m sorry”
I’d rather they rip the bandaid off and not pretend they are my friend. You are firing me. You are removing me from my source of income. Stop trying to be “pleasant” because it just looks like you are enjoying it.
No smiles, no affected happiness, no weasel words about being “let go”. Just say “yeah, sorry, you’re fired”. The more emotionless you can make it on your end, the better.
Heck don’t even fire me in person. Send me an e-mail. It’s a lot more… Humane. Less cruel.
